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Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:07 am
by ptolemy66t
kite in //GU wasnt even the real kite it was an AI sooooo ofcourse haseo is stronger , AI's can only do so much

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:52 pm
by HeadHunter
Kite with Tri-Edge powers would win =P~

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:59 pm
by Haseo{Terror of Death}
Phase9_DGX wrote: Haseo, he definately can kick the **** outta Kite, and did do so a few time in the game, even after Kite was augmented by Aura, and then he becomes ur party member, proving that he knows ur stronger and so does Aura, who commands him and the Decsendants of Fianna to follow Haseo. I wonder what Aura meant about the fight not being over, and who was that connected to the top of Cubia?
Looked like Haseo, but thats just me

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:31 pm
by Gemcrim
Haseo{Terror of Death} wrote:
Phase9_DGX wrote: Haseo, he definately can kick the **** outta Kite, and did do so a few time in the game, even after Kite was augmented by Aura, and then he becomes ur party member, proving that he knows ur stronger and so does Aura, who commands him and the Decsendants of Fianna to follow Haseo. I wonder what Aura meant about the fight not being over, and who was that connected to the top of Cubia?
Looked like Haseo, but thats just me
I believe it to be Haseo. It is the Cubia core after all and would act as an anti existence to Haseo during this fight, just as the CUbia core held a figure of Kite in the fetal position in the first four games.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:23 am
by ptolemy66t
Cubia only has a mirrior image on the top of his head ,of who had the key of the twilight ie; the braclet kite had or haseo's Xth form created from all the epitaphs

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:14 am
by Gemcrim
Gemcrim wrote:
Haseo{Terror of Death} wrote:
Phase9_DGX wrote: Haseo, he definately can kick the **** outta Kite, and did do so a few time in the game, even after Kite was augmented by Aura, and then he becomes ur party member, proving that he knows ur stronger and so does Aura, who commands him and the Decsendants of Fianna to follow Haseo. I wonder what Aura meant about the fight not being over, and who was that connected to the top of Cubia?
Looked like Haseo, but thats just me
I believe it to be Haseo. It is the Cubia core after all and would act as an anti existence to Haseo during this fight, just as the Cubia core held a figure of Kite in the fetal position in the first four games, just as it now holds an image of Haseo on top of itself.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:07 pm
by Hyuuga
Yeah. Just like PC Cubia which looks like Kite in XXXX.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:54 pm
by Tenji
So... i have a question here...
how are you guys comparing them? I mean... the characters are not compatible betwen R:1 and R:2 for a reason. (almost all the data was destroyed) so you are basically talking about 2 characters from diferent games. (so... my knight from the RO wins... edn. kidding)

Stats, lvls? two games with diferent stats... even if the base is the same and there are a lot of similarities R:2 is still not R:1.
enemies they face? again... to surpass a sistem is to surpase the stablished limits wich are diferent for each game. So the Skeith from R:2 even if is the same as the one on R:1 will have diferent abilities and stats and stuff like that in both games.

So... what exaclty are you comparing? who would win in a fight? if both of them where playing the same game with the top equipement and both where maxed to the limit... and without the use of any DD or avatar, is that it?
Haseo lost a fight like that back on R:1 but he is a diferent person now, he grow up. :P
If both of them where playing R:2... probably Haseo would win because he is a PKK so he is more used to fight against players.
Kite would probably avoid that kind of fights if not necesary. But Kite is also another person now. (azure Kite is not Kite so it doesn´t count)
Basicaly it would depend on the player... so the answer is that you will never know. lol :P

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:25 am
by ptolemy66t
it would probably be a even fight if they were both at full power ; kite controlling Azure kite vs Xth form haseo

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:55 pm
by [Dot]Balmung
Hm, tough call.

Kite I think is better. Haseo might of had the avatars, which gave him data drain.

Kite got the braclet for Aura. Hes moar specials

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:54 pm
by fepkk
i know that i made the question yet, seeing all these opnions and thinking over and over and over, i came to a conclusion: It is impossible to say because both have data drain power and both fighted against Cubia.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:18 pm
by Cless
Kite because he has a backbone. He isn't afraid to help people or data bugs. XD

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:15 am
by Kitezer
I'm gonna have to say, they are both equally powerful. They both have traits that overpower the other. Which it's really unfair to declare one better than the other.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:35 pm
by Demon_Skeith
i know that i made the question yet, seeing all these opnions and thinking over and over and over, i came to a conclusion: It is impossible to say because both have data drain power and both fighted against Cubia.
true but haseo killed cubia were kite kinda didn't beat him
Kite because he has a backbone. He isn't afraid to help people or data bugs
haseo had more backbone than kite will ever have
I'm gonna have to say, they are both equally powerful. They both have traits that overpower the other. Which it's really unfair to declare one better than the other.
I agree

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:25 pm
by Amarao
Haseo is much stronger, but unlike Kite, he totally sucks at everything else.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:35 pm
by zandor117
Kite owns Haseo. Think about it. Both Kite and Haseo have data drain, but Haseo has Skeith. But Kite can beat Skeith. Kite can also beat the other phases without avatar and finish them with data drain. Haseo had to use avatar to fight other phases and finish them with data drain. Kite couldn't defeat Cubia, but Haseo didn't really defeat Cubia either, the power of the eight phases did. Both Kite and Haseo could weaken Cubia, Kite just didn't have a tool to finish Cubia off with.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:02 pm
by .hack//BICTIOUS
Your logic is kinda flawed. Haseo's Skeith is a much different beast than the one Kite fought. In fact, the Avatars themselves are only BASED on the original phases, using some of their data. Comparing them and saying Kite is stronger because he beat Skeith is horrendously flawed logic.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:34 pm
by Bulletcatcher
zandor117 wrote:Kite owns Haseo. Think about it. Both Kite and Haseo have data drain, but Haseo has Skeith. But Kite can beat Skeith. Kite can also beat the other phases without avatar and finish them with data drain. Haseo had to use avatar to fight other phases and finish them with data drain. Kite couldn't defeat Cubia, but Haseo didn't really defeat Cubia either, the power of the eight phases did. Both Kite and Haseo could weaken Cubia, Kite just didn't have a tool to finish Cubia off with.
Kite has nothing but two blades and a bracelet. Haseo has two blades, a broadsword, a scythe, guns, and an Avatar that can do what Kite's bracelet can, but without the infection.

As BICTIOUS said, Haseo's Skeith is different than the Skeith from IMOQ. It is a player-manipulable essence of the phase, not to mention that it's power grows with Haseo's character. Also, thinking logically, Kite probably can't even see Avatar Skeith.

Avatar Skeith defeats normal players in single swipes of its blade. Kite has nothing on it, nor can he even compare to the R:2 characters without his bracelet. He needs a protect break and data drain to even hurt Skeith considerably, but that's no use when he can't even touch it. Haseo as Skeith needs one flick of his scythe to send Kite into a coma.

Even if Haseo didn't have an avatar, I doubt Kite could protect break him in combat. Haseo the Adept Rogue and how Haseo uses him efficiently is just barely a match for Kite. Also, remember when Kite didn't have a bracelet? He was about to get destroyed by Corbenik if it weren't for Aura. Without his bracelet, he's just another player.

There's also the difference between R:1 and R:2, which makes this entire argument quite invalid and unfair. The simple fact that R:2 characters can reach level 150 alone is enough to say that there is no fair argument. Haseo would destroy Kite.

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:15 pm
by Dantomane
Demon_Skeith wrote:that is obviously haseo. since he has four different weapon classes and controls both the power of a data drain bracelet and skeith.
But remember Tri-edge is the kite character(not player) and as we all know tri-edge kicked haseo's ass (the first time they fought)

Re: kite or Haseo

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:51 pm
by Izydore
Sigh...even though I love Kite (absolutely love this little guy) I have to say that Haseo just.....wins man yes maybe Kite would be able to hold his ground but Haseo like people already mentioned is he's a Adept rouge plus he's in XForm, that means Ranged attacks(Guns) when needed...Pure Power Attacks(Broadsword), Speed(Twin Blades),Area(Scythe) plus in R:2 they can customize there weapons and armor so your blades with a paralyze effect, you stun Kite and he cant move while your still wailing on him, plus theres also Skill Chain and Rengeki. Thats what I think