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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:37 am
by Ravaan
Wow. Didn't know Kaede lost her son, that's pretty sad. G.U.'s so morbid. :D
Jimbob wrote:You know thats interesting. Since Shino was the Innis user before Atoli that would mean that she fit the Mirage of Deceit personality more than Atoli did. Makes you wonder about how truthful anything she says really is. Unless it bonded to her without needed a personality.
Ok, now I'm now willing believe that Shino's a mole. Get me a gun, I've got some Shin-ho to clean up.

OMG! AT HAS A DP!?!? IT'S THE APOCALYPSE!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:48 pm
by Kiru
Azure crow wrote:ask others,it's a hobby(not in the regular sense) of mine to put people in their moral place.
Hell,I put AuraTwilight in his pace once,but that's ancient history.
We should focous on the topic at hand(and I wasn't refering to jokes or people saying things to be unny,more like people instantly assuming what they want about you then mocking you,which is wrong in all forms of itself.
Morals are for losers.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:44 pm
by haseoskeith
Jimbob wrote:
Fragments.beta wrote:quote]Anyone getting a vibe that Shin-ho is yanking Haseo's chain AGAIN?
You know thats interesting. Since Shino was the Innis user before Atoli that would mean that she fit the Mirage of Deceit personality more than Atoli did. Makes you wonder about how truthful anything she says really is. Unless it bonded to her without needed a personality.
Shino was never, in an all-time-basis an Epitaph User nor before nor after Atoli was {unless some twist has been revealed lately...}. The only thing in comun between Atoli and Shino is the character, which are similar to each other. That's all. No matter what she does, Atoli's the M.O.T.D. Bottom line. Shino was the M.O.T.D. in G.U.+. Translation: she isn't.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:48 pm
by Fragments.beta
haseoskeith wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
Fragments.beta wrote:quote]Anyone getting a vibe that Shin-ho is yanking Haseo's chain AGAIN?
You know thats interesting. Since Shino was the Innis user before Atoli that would mean that she fit the Mirage of Deceit personality more than Atoli did. Makes you wonder about how truthful anything she says really is. Unless it bonded to her without needed a personality.
Shino was never, in an all-time-basis an Epitaph User nor before nor after Atoli was {unless some twist has been revealed lately...}. The only thing in comun between Atoli and Shino is the character, which are similar to each other. That's all. No matter what she does, Atoli's the M.O.T.D. Bottom line. Shino was the M.O.T.D. in G.U.+. Translation: she isn't.
Wrong. Perfect Guidebook already stated that Shin-ho was the original Innis. She got AIDA-raped then Innis went to Atoli.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:11 pm
by haseoskeith
Sorry, my bad...

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:27 pm
by Red Frost
Question: The titles of the Avatars mean something to the user, right? Haseo is the Terror of Death for obvious reasons. Atoli is the Mirage of Deceit because of her personality, and so forth... Someone said the titles didn't mean as much as people say, but I thought the titles fit the Epitaph Users pretty well...

So, the Titles match the Epitaph Users in terms of personality or whatever, right?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:11 pm
by Fragments.beta
Yeah the epitaph wielders personality coincides with which Avatars is in his character. For Atoli its because she keeps a farce of being a pleasant girl when she is really sucidal IRL. Endrance is an obsessed romantic, Sakubo has multiple personalties, Kuhn is very sociable, etc.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:38 pm
by AuraTwilight
Though I don't see what the Rebirth personality needs. Probably that whole "Attraction to death/Attachment to Life/Pure Heart" thing?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:46 pm
by DragonLord
AuraTwilight wrote:Though I don't see what the Rebirth personality needs. Probably that whole "Attraction to death/Attachment to Life/Pure Heart" thing?
Could be something like Rebirth would go to someone that wanted to make major changes. Break something down, build it back up.. that would sorta fit.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:08 pm
by dominus_draconis
I was thinking more Ovan's desire to give his sister a chance at a sort of "rebirth" and that is why he came to Za Warudo with her in the first place(AT, if you dislike me using the japanese name even just ask and I will stop) and why corbenik attached to him, because he desired to give her a rebirth of sorts, a chance at life(at least in a way) where her illness would not be the overriding factor for her, and since he is the one seeking to give it, he would have the epitaph, no one ever said he had to seek rebirth for himself

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:25 pm
by AuraTwilight
Could be something like Rebirth would go to someone that wanted to make major changes. Break something down, build it back up.. that would sorta fit.
That could work, though depending on your definition it could be classified as Pure Heart.
I was thinking more Ovan's desire to give his sister a chance at a sort of "rebirth" and that is why he came to Za Warudo with her in the first place
Attachment to Life.
(AT, if you dislike me using the japanese name even just ask and I will stop)
Why would I care? I use it all the time.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:12 am
by Ravaan
I'm gonna go with the Attachment to Life, mostly because that's something that the other Epitaphs don't really embody. I'm looking at it from a kind of: "If you're really attached to life, you'll resurrect" point of view. And it's not Ovan's own life he's attached to, it's his sisters.

If you really wanna go with the Attraction to Death thing, it's because Ovan is willing to die for Aina/Ina. The Pure Heart because sacrifice is the ultimate... what's the word?... not virtue... good thing to do? Oh well, gets you into heaven and stuff... whatever...

Well, that's my opinion on the subject anyway.

EDIT: Was supposed to say Don't really embody, not embody.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:55 am
by Bryce_P
Ravaan wrote:I'm gonna go with the Attachment to Life, mostly because that's something that the other Epitaphs don't really embody. I'm looking at it from a kind of: "If you're really attached to life, you'll resurrect" point of view. And it's not Ovan's own life it's attached to, it's his sisters.

If you really wanna go with the Attraction to Death thing, it's because Ovan is willing to die for Aina/Ina. The Pure Heart because sacrifice is the ultimate... what's the word?... not virtue... good thing to do? Oh well, gets you into heaven and stuff... whatever...

Well, that's my opinion on the subject anyway.

EDIT: Was supposed to say Don't really embody, not embody.
i think the word you're looking for is sacrifice...

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:05 pm
by Jimbob
Speaking of the max affection scenes, has anyone translated any of the emails that lead up to the scenes? I'm interested to know what might be brought up.