Why haseo in te Forest of Pain...

DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:24 am

That's just because the Harald AI is completely messed up to begin with, basically able to loop a conversation with itself unless you trigger the right word, and even then you just get cryptic speech that would make Yata beg for mommy.

Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:16 am

And that post is why AT is a locked mind and accept no theories until either proven wrong or god himself helps you :3

Meh not matter, I learned to ignore him completely at this point and why'd the topic suddenl;y turn to aromatic grass? O.o;

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:52 pm

And that post is why AT is a locked mind and accept no theories until either proven wrong or god himself helps you :3

Um...excuse me?

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:51 pm

in my opinion,harolds messed up cuz hes not a complete vagrant AI....he has special powers....like making black lightning bolts make people super duper uber emo then they already where...but hecant really think strait...he was asking for years..."where is my daughter.."why doesnt he put on some clothes and go look for her?

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:58 pm

Harald is messed up because of the different aspect each AI Harald represents. That and each AI is a broken record. -_-

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:30 pm

in my opinion,harolds messed up cuz hes not a complete vagrant AI....he has special powers....like making black lightning bolts make people super duper uber emo then they already where...but hecant really think strait...he was asking for years..."where is my daughter.."why doesnt he put on some clothes and go look for her?

There's no such thing as complete Vagrant AI's. That'd just be an Ultimate AI.

Plus he's incapable of leaving his room.

Harald is messed up because of the different aspect each AI Harald represents. That and each AI is a broken record. -_-

They're all one AI. He just keeps getting deleted and rebuilt.

RisingPhoenix · Post by **RisingPhoenix** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:02 am

I thought that each harold was different, it wasn't that he was deleted and rebuilt, there were already several copies of himself each with there own message that would be triggered with a certain word, in the series it just shows him deleted and him popping up somewhere else, there is no proof that a new harold was created after the other was destroyed, but then again what I say doesn't have proof either, it's all up to your personal belief so there is no right or wrong answer, it was done like that on purpose.

The Azure Wind · Post by **The Azure Wind** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:53 am

RisingPhoenix wrote:I thought that each harold was different, it wasn't that he was deleted and rebuilt, there were already several copies of himself each with there own message that would be triggered with a certain word, in the series it just shows him deleted and him popping up somewhere else, there is no proof that a new harold was created after the other was destroyed, but then again what I say doesn't have proof either, it's all up to your personal belief so there is no right or wrong answer, it was done like that on purpose.

I completely agree with you on that

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:47 pm

In supplemental sources, like Analysis, Harald is just one AI that keeps rebuilding itself, but it's AI mind keeps degrading and becoming less intelligent with each deletion.

The only evidence to there being multiple Haralds is Bear's theory about there being a different copy of Harald on every server. But Bear's been wrong about a lot of things, honestly. The one Harald is omnipresent in all the servers, but he's not multiple AI's.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:35 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
And that post is why AT is a locked mind and accept no theories until either proven wrong or god himself helps you :3
Um...excuse me?

Remember guys its just a game. Its not the end of the world or universe if someone has a different theory and if its wrong. Besides a theory cant be proven right or wrong because its only speculation. Nothing more.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:52 pm

It's not that that makes me made. I'm mad at his assumption that I don't listen to what anyone has to say seriously, when the only theories I take apart are ones that are blatantly wrong, like "Aina is Tsukasa's brother lolz."

Furthermore, Almost all of my theories are inspired by conversation with peers on the board who aren't idiots, such as Umbra-sama, Makku-chan, Akuta-kun, Amaetho-chama, and Bullet-****.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:58 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:It's not that that makes me made. I'm mad at his assumption that I don't listen to what anyone has to say seriously, when the only theories I take apart are ones that are blatantly wrong, like "Aina is Tsukasa's brother lolz."

I understand that but you do realize when people see you getting mad over that, you are indirectly giving them ammunition to iritate you?

Furthermore, Almost all of my theories are inspired by conversation with peers on the board who aren't idiots, such as Umbra-sama, Makku-chan, Akuta-kun, Amaetho-chama, and Bullet-****.

w00t Im an Idiot I think XD.

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:31 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:It's not that that makes me made. I'm mad at his assumption that I don't listen to what anyone has to say seriously, when the only theories I take apart are ones that are blatantly wrong, like "Aina is Tsukasa's brother lolz."

Furthermore, Almost all of my theories are inspired by conversation with peers on the board who aren't idiots, such as Umbra-sama, Makku-chan, Akuta-kun, Amaetho-chama, and Bullet-****.

Sweet, I'm an idiot.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:59 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Furthermore, Almost all of my theories are inspired by conversation with peers on the board who aren't idiots, such as Umbra-sama, Makku-chan, Akuta-kun, Amaetho-chama, and Bullet-****.

D: ...-**** was a suffix since when, exactly?...

Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:13 pm

So basically, you prefer those who are either over 2000 posts or have some power/have stayed long in this forum.

It doesn't excuse the fact you bomb down noobs and their theories..well it's a rare case if you accept one but I'd mostly see you bomb one person and insult them and lock their threat :3

I know you have your reasons but..eh, do as you please but don't expect many friends.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:43 am

I believe hes for people that "know" what they are talking about. Which is rather difficult considering the mass of canon and non-canon material and media. More so .hack itself is huge and the info cannot be swallowed in one day.

Imo, whoever knows about .hack//Analysis, should make a sticky thread (since it proves what is and what is not canon from what I understand about it).

That way, viewers can check on it every so often to catch up on .hack in general and get a theory from GU and Analysis.

Id do it myself but, Anaylsis is jpn only. Plus I cant read it or know where any translations are. But thats just my 2 cents.

EDIT: Best way to handle a situation such as someone asking a question or theorizing is "positively" correct them and lock the thread. PM them that it wasnt to what they did was wrong but to keep down on spam. Then direct them to a source with alot of info. Such as http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

OR

If its a question about a particular character like Tri-egde or AK. Tell them yes then lock the thread. For one, you are telling the truth and it doesnt spoil the game and other media for them. (If not youll confuse them and that person may not come back again, giving a disordered view of this forums.)

Too much thinking this early in the morning. Oh wellz it works.

DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:19 am

.hack Wiki is awesome, I've literally spent an entire day off just surfing it and reading overviews, there's a ton of stuff there. It's not all going to be 100% accurate, but it should be 98% at least. Anyways, I agree that is is a great place to go if you want to know something about .hack and you're afraid to ask the question. It's also good if you want to make sure that one of your theories isn't completely baseless.

The Azure Wind · Post by **The Azure Wind** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:56 am

You shouldn't bash AT just cause he doing his job. if people throw this subject off hand or dont read the forums all the way then yeah he has a right to bash you 2000 posts or a moderators has nothing to do with it if you dont have a clue to what going on then dont do something stupid about it.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:07 pm

I understand that but you do realize when people see you getting mad over that, you are indirectly giving them ammunition to iritate you?

Me =/= caring.

*waits for someone to have that sigged by tomarrow*

w00t Im an Idiot I think XD.

They were just examples. There's more.

D: ...-**** was a suffix since when, exactly?...

Since the day you were born, emo. *slap* Back in the box.

So basically, you prefer those who are either over 2000 posts or have some power/have stayed long in this forum.

It doesn't excuse the fact you bomb down noobs and their theories..well it's a rare case if you accept one but I'd mostly see you bomb one person and insult them and lock their threat :3

I know you have your reasons but..eh, do as you please but don't expect many friends.

1. No, I prefer those who act, type, and think intelligently. Post count and veteran status is the last thing I care about. It just happens that most of the people in that group happen to fit my qualifications. For example, I accepted Annywn the moment they joined, along with Kouen.

2. I don't bomb down anybody. I just scroll the threads, correct false information, then move on. If someone takes offense, there's probably a stick in their ass they need to remove, or they're emo. And I don't lock threads just for having dumb theories. I lock threads that are spam, repetitive, have gone offtopic, or in other words stupid and have no purpose.

And besides, I'm not the only person who locks threads.

3. Heh. You tell me not to expect many friends, and yet I'm close buddies with like...20 of the board members and accounting, and none of them are asskissers like haseoxth.

I believe hes for people that "know" what they are talking about. Which is rather difficult considering the mass of canon and non-canon material and media. More so .hack itself is huge and the info cannot be swallowed in one day.

Imo, whoever knows about .hack//Analysis, should make a sticky thread (since it proves what is and what is not canon from what I understand about it).

That way, viewers can check on it every so often to catch up on .hack in general and get a theory from GU and Analysis.

Id do it myself but, Anaylsis is jpn only. Plus I cant read it or know where any translations are. But thats just my 2 cents.

EDIT: Best way to handle a situation such as someone asking a question or theorizing is "positively" correct them and lock the thread. PM them that it wasnt to what they did was wrong but to keep down on spam. Then direct them to a source with alot of info. Such as http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

OR

If its a question about a particular character like Tri-egde or AK. Tell them yes then lock the thread. For one, you are telling the truth and it doesnt spoil the game and other media for them. (If not youll confuse them and that person may not come back again, giving a disordered view of this forums.)

Too much thinking this early in the morning. Oh wellz it works.

I tried doing the Analysis idea once, but it was taken down for some reason.

You shouldn't bash AT just cause he doing his job. if people throw this subject off hand or dont read the forums all the way then yeah he has a right to bash you 2000 posts or a moderators has nothing to do with it if you dont have a clue to what going on then dont do something stupid about it.

Wow. That was one of the most insightful things I've seen you type up. Have an AT Cookie. It's like a chocolate chip cookie, but instead of chocolate, the chips are made of PWN.

Azure_Wind is an example of people who have low post counts, no moderator status, and less-than-flawless typing skills that I respect. Infact, I respect almost all members of the board as a default unless they do something to lose that respect, such as the Twilight Rose incident or Haseoxth's spineless asskissing.

But Anyway, Azure Wind has a point. Let's go back on topic before I lock this. MarioShinobi, if you want to continue this, take it up with me in PM's.

DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:25 pm

Ontopic: To be completely honest, I don't really understand how the Harald AI wasnt completely been deleted at that point. Somehow enough of it survived the destruction of R:1 to rebuild itself and still have enough data/power to jack Haseo up to his third form? That's one crazy-resiliant AI. With the way it was put into R:1, I wonder if it will ever be completely gone?