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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:51 am
by ULFRIC
aww yea
i think Sakiki's a little hippucrit
no way he kan rival a PK crew
and not PK himself

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:07 pm
by Dot-Hack-Rocks
well, what if he is? i am not saying he is one, but didnt threaten Haseo because of his Pking and how its disruppted the World?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:46 am
by ULFRIC
yes
but the very way he threatened Haseo
was with the fear of death
u dont hold a sword 2 sum1's throat
as a measure of good faith
itz an altimatum
listen or die

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:02 am
by Kuukai
Yeah, it does seem that Moon's Tree is hippocrits, and yeah they are militaristic, but they're also supposedly actually really goofy in reality. We'll see when GnU gets scanned. (anyone?)

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:33 am
by Kuukai
Umm, sorry for being a slacker. ^^; Is there a finished translation out yet, or should I keep going?

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Sa: No matter how much you pretend to act in the name of justice,
Sa: You PKKs are no different from the PKs
Ha: ...justice?
At: That's right.
At: You too wound your opponents' hearts.
Ha: Yeah, I know
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Ha: I didn't mean to show you kindness
Ha: But I also don't intend to be repaid in bitterness
-29-
Ha: Finally
Ha: Finally I can see him
Ha: I've been searching all this time
-30-
Ha: for him...
Ha: Gríma Löwe Cathedral...
-31-
Ha: This is where...
-33-
Ha: Shino!
-34-
Ha: Triedge...
-35-
Ha: You're..
-36-
Ha: Ovan!
Ov: It's been a while, Haseo

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:43 am
by Umbra
Shinsou has managed to create translated pages...

I'm not sure whether or not everyone can read them though, so your translation may be helpful to them.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:17 am
by milliennium_fox
Yes, Shinsou did complete them. However, I think it's good to have different versions available.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:46 am
by Kuukai
Ah, I totally missed that he finished ^^; I'll probably finish mine, but I'll give other things higher priority...

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:26 am
by Grey
Kuukai wrote:Yeah, it does seem that Moon's Tree is hippocrits, and yeah they are militaristic, but they're also supposedly actually really goofy in reality. We'll see when GnU gets scanned. (anyone?)
Well, that may not be the case....Moon-tree not being hypocrites, I mean. Not completely, at least.

Think about it this way, a game needs conflict to be appealing to most people. Take that conflict away, it becomes less appealing to certain people. As Atoli says, "You too wound your opponents' hearts. " So, since PKKs PK (sorry if this is confusing) the PKers, since the PKKs reduces the PKs' chances of getting away with things, the PKs stop playing...leaving the game with less members. And, it also removes the conflict, so The World loses members from that.

So!

Maybe, by PKing, Moon-tree simply balances out the conflict in the game that PKKs (since it is now apparent that there are more than just Haseo) take away?

That is my theory...tear it apart.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:27 pm
by Zeicule
I cant believe i just came across these translations lol. Very good job wotan

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:26 pm
by Dot-Hack-Rocks
what would that thing be on Ovan's arm?? like armor? why Ovan knows alot is because he knew more about tri-edge and he probably also knew that haseo had no chance of winning against him.

Maybe OVan is trying experiment with his former clan members. Like, Shino...maybe she was the first step, and then haseo was the next?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:08 am
by Grey
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:what would that thing be on Ovan's arm?? like armor?
Actually, sometimes, I think it is a bazooka type thing...0_o At first, when I found out he was a Steam Gunner, I assumed that was his gun...

Oh, and then there is that lock on his arm thing that makes me think that it means that he has some hidden power that reveals itself once unlocked.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:12 am
by Umbra
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:Maybe OVan is trying experiment with his former clan members. Like, Shino...maybe she was the first step, and then haseo was the next?
Assuming, of course, that Ovan is the villain is GU. I believe that the Infinity Characters, like the Eight Phases, will be on the same side.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:22 am
by A.P.Z.A.E.
Umbra wrote:Assuming, of course, that Ovan is the villain is GU. I believe that the Infinity Characters, like the Eight Phases, will be on the same side.
I don't know. There's just something about Ovan that's unsettling, but I really can't put my finger on it. You're probably right though...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:27 am
by Umbra
A.P.Z.A.E. wrote:I don't know. There's just something about Ovan that's unsettling, but I really can't put my finger on it. You're probably right though...
That is true, he doesn't act like the most trustworthy character in The World...

Haseo seems to harbour a deep resentment towards him, so he may be an enemy or rival to begin with. But I feel an alliance is inevitable, as it was between Kite and Balmung.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:10 pm
by AuraTwilight
I can imagine Ovan going through an evolution if he features in all GU games. Of course, throughout the series he'd represent Rebirth, of course, but Corbenic represented Attachment to Life, Attraction to Death, and the Pure Heart in each of his three forms. I can see Ovan fighting against Tri-Edge in the first game, in the second game I can totally imagine him being a villain for part of the game because he was duped by the villain. In the third game he could feel guilty for the actions in the last game, and could possibly sacrifice himself to save the World with some Christ imagery

but of course that's all fanfiction, but shut up and let me dream X3

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:18 pm
by kire12
yeah, the way he says, "welcome to the world" kinda gives me the feeling like a mad doctor who just created some being, like Frankenstine

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:20 pm
by Shinsou Wotan
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:what would that thing be on Ovan's arm?? like armor? why Ovan knows alot is because he knew more about tri-edge and he probably also knew that haseo had no chance of winning against him.

Maybe OVan is trying experiment with his former clan members. Like, Shino...maybe she was the first step, and then haseo was the next?
That's one of the mysteries about Ovan pointed out in his character profile in the magazine. Whatever it is, it's referred to as being "sealed".

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:28 pm
by kire12
hey is that on the site?
if its not can u send it too me?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:16 pm
by Shinsou Wotan
kire12 wrote:hey is that on the site?
if its not can u send it too me?
It's in the magazine, which I received my copy of today.