Skieth Theory

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:20 pm

Anyway, an interesting thought for you all to dwell on. If "Tri-Edge's" bracelet is incomplete, then according to kulaguy's theory, the Junk Data would create Cubia again, is it not? If Shugo's bracelet was the "completed" version and didn't spawn Cubia, then it would make sense. Or since Cubia "died", would it not come back?

It's not the Kite's Bracelet is incomplete, it's that Shugo's Bracelet is better. If Kite's/Tri-Edge's Bracelet is incomplete, perhaps it lacks the algorithms to create Cubia.

Morganna didn't create Cubia at all, it was created by Harold to be the protection system for Aura... He created it as part of the system.

Morganna could anticipate human behavior and plan ahead. One example of this was Cubia, a monster designed to balance the game against hackers and edited character data.

PWNED!

Anyway, if No one, not even a System Admin, can access Aura's data, who is Cubia supposed to protect her from? Not like Cubia protects her anyway.

Cless · Post by **Cless** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:54 pm

What about the matillic puddle that appears after defeating Skeith. That's also a possibility of how Cubia was born but I'm might be making a mistake. Because that's either the theory of how Cubia was born or how evil Kite was born.

Sephiroth0812 · Post by **Sephiroth0812** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:51 pm

folks, I think you missed something there:

There exist three bracelets:

1. the first (dark) bracelet used by Kite from which was Cubia the other side => destroyed or (more likely) damaged by BlackRose, now probably under control of Tri-Edge (cuz that one of Tri also misses a facet like this one).

2. the second (daybreak) which Aura gave to Kite in the Epilogue of Quarantine to rescue Mia. This one has no "dark side" aka Cubia because Aura altered the code of it to ensure Cubia wouldn´t rise again. Kite should still be the owner of this one.

3. the third which is Shugo´s bracelet. This is another "other" version of the bracelet made by Aura. The main differences are: It is visible unlike the former two and you can´t do gate hacking with it.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:42 pm

What about the matillic puddle that appears after defeating Skeith. That's also a possibility of how Cubia was born but I'm might be making a mistake. Because that's either the theory of how Cubia was born or how evil Kite was born.

That scene was entirely symbolic. It's supposed to mean that Skeith's Data Drain was the final breaking point for Kite's Bracelet, allowing Cubia to be born. Evil Kite would come seven years later.

1. the first (dark) bracelet used by Kite from which was Cubia the other side => destroyed or (more likely) damaged by BlackRose, now probably under control of Tri-Edge (cuz that one of Tri also misses a facet like this one).

My thoughts exactly.

2. the second (daybreak) which Aura gave to Kite in the Epilogue of Quarantine to rescue Mia. This one has no "dark side" aka Cubia because Aura altered the code of it to ensure Cubia wouldn´t rise again. Kite should still be the owner of this one.

Agreed

3. the third which is Shugo´s bracelet. This is another "other" version of the bracelet made by Aura. The main differences are: It is visible unlike the former two and you can´t do gate hacking with it.

The last statement is incorrect. Shugo performs Gate Hacking in both version of his chronicles. In the anime, he Gate Hacks to access the corrupted server to save his sister, and is perfectly capable of going back and forth without using a gate or virus cores. (Then again, the anime isn't canon, so who cares?)

However, the manga, the canon version, still uses Gate Hacking. This version uses virus cores and can be performed without a gate. Shugo performs Gate Hacking in order to access Aura's domain and return Zefie home safely.

Sephiroth0812 · Post by **Sephiroth0812** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:51 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
What about the matillic puddle that appears after defeating Skeith. That's also a possibility of how Cubia was born but I'm might be making a mistake. Because that's either the theory of how Cubia was born or how evil Kite was born.
That scene was entirely symbolic. It's supposed to mean that Skeith's Data Drain was the final breaking point for Kite's Bracelet, allowing Cubia to be born. Evil Kite would come seven years later.

1. the first (dark) bracelet used by Kite from which was Cubia the other side => destroyed or (more likely) damaged by BlackRose, now probably under control of Tri-Edge (cuz that one of Tri also misses a facet like this one).
My thoughts exactly.

2. the second (daybreak) which Aura gave to Kite in the Epilogue of Quarantine to rescue Mia. This one has no "dark side" aka Cubia because Aura altered the code of it to ensure Cubia wouldn´t rise again. Kite should still be the owner of this one.
Agreed

3. the third which is Shugo´s bracelet. This is another "other" version of the bracelet made by Aura. The main differences are: It is visible unlike the former two and you can´t do gate hacking with it.
The last statement is incorrect. Shugo performs Gate Hacking in both version of his chronicles. In the anime, he Gate Hacks to access the corrupted server to save his sister, and is perfectly capable of going back and forth without using a gate or virus cores. (Then again, the anime isn't canon, so who cares?)

However, the manga, the canon version, still uses Gate Hacking. This version uses virus cores and can be performed without a gate. Shugo performs Gate Hacking in order to access Aura's domain and return Zefie home safely.

Oops, gomen...I´ve overread that part in the manga...I´ve seen it in the anime though, but the anime isn´t part of the .hack-storyline so I missed it out.
But yeah, you´re right. Shugo doesn´t use Gate hacking to get into net slum, but to get in Aura's lair, my mistake.

So the complete chronological story would be like this me think:

A.I. Buster
SIGN
ZERO
First four games / Liminality
Unison
Legend of the Twilight (Manga)
and probably G.U. if it´s really a continuation which I doubt a little cuz except of the church, Tri-Edges avatar and the phase titles there´s nothing ".hack"-identification as I´ve see...and that´s thin...

kite27 · Post by **kite27** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:30 am

Kyle1818 wrote:What Id like to know is why didin't Cubia come back when Shugo got the braclet.

well i have heard ppl say that cubia didnt reappear when shugo got his braclet was because he never did anything to harm the system(intentionally). kite didnt either but he did dd a phase or 2 or 7 and destroyed data for aura and data of morgana. and when shugo got the braclet morgana was no more. so since cubia was supposed to protect aura, that is why cubia appeared origanally but aura was allready created or somthing like that and so cubia didnt need to protect her

did that make any sense at all??

Sephiroth0812 · Post by **Sephiroth0812** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:20 am

@Kite27: Have you even read AuraTwilight's and my previous statements??
Cubia didn´t appeared again because except of the first bracelet Kite uses the other bracelets have a different code created by Aura.
Kite´s second bracelet "daybreak" and Shugo´s bracelet are completely separated from Cubia and they will not create a Cubia (other side of the coin) cuz Aura has prevented it.

The only possibility that we´ll get a new Cubia would be because of Tri-Edges wrecked bracelet (a facet is missing) IF it is really Kite´s old bracelet which was damaged by BlackRose in Quarantine.
But this isn´t proved yet...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:17 pm

It's not that Cubia was created to protect the system, which is totally false since Cubia infects every area it goes to (-.-) but because Kite's Bracelet was cluttered with infected and corrupted data that it dumped it in order to clean itself. Cubia is the Bracelet's opposite, so it does the exact opposite of whatever the keeper of the Bracelet wants to do. Kite wants to meet Aura, so Cubia prevents him from doing so, for example. Kite wants to save the World, so Cubia helps it's infection. and so on and so forth.

Skeith_209 · Post by **Skeith_209** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:23 pm

i think that cubia is skeith, cept he is the data drained true form, because skeith looked only like a shell to me, and isnt there a wavemasters wand that you can get, its skeith's wand and its a item that u can equip a wavemaster with?

Skeith_209 · Post by **Skeith_209** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:27 pm

hehe um who is morgana again ? ;;;;

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:07 pm

i think that cubia is skeith, cept he is the data drained true form, because skeith looked only like a shell to me, and isnt there a wavemasters wand that you can get, its skeith's wand and its a item that u can equip a wavemaster with?

No, and No.

who is morgana again ?

The AI who controls The World. She's trying to keep Aura from being born.

Skeith_209 · Post by **Skeith_209** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:00 am

so why is morgana dead, didnt that voice in the begining of the game said "i mus speak with morgana" that was helba right? sure sounded like her. so.. morgana cant be dead, im only on outbreak though so if somthing happens in the last game dont tell me! so morgana has somthing to do with helba.?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:10 pm

No, that voice was Harold, Morganna's creator. Morganna is dead because Aura is complete and basically absorbed everything valuable of Morganna's coding. Helba and Morganna have no connection. Helba was just helping Kite to get what she wanted.