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Re:

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:27 pm
by silabus
Azure crow wrote:The X represents the fact that due to what it is,it could be any number.
It could be the final form of 30,030,256
yeah ,they put it cuz anybody would like 4th form

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:33 am
by Azure crow
silabus wrote:
Azure crow wrote:The X represents the fact that due to what it is,it could be any number.
It could be the final form of 30,030,256
yeah ,they put it cuz anybody would like 4th form
Indeed.
Beside,4th form sounds like it's set,whereas Haseo is basicly online god at the time of Xth form,and is anything besides set.

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:05 pm
by Persongus
Azure crow wrote:
silabus wrote:
Azure crow wrote:The X represents the fact that due to what it is,it could be any number.
It could be the final form of 30,030,256
yeah ,they put it cuz anybody would like 4th form
Indeed.
Beside,4th form sounds like it's set,whereas Haseo is basicly online god at the time of Xth form,and is anything besides set.
There is one thing about that logic I've found flawed: Xth Form is unset because it is an illegal class, and hence the X. However, the placement of the X, where there used to be a 1, 2, and 3, represents the chronological order that the weapon was received in. If we think about the class being variable, then all forms are variable because the Adept Rogue chooses their classes, thus determining which forms will be which class, so the numbers are assigned chronologically. Hence, Xth Form is just as set or non-set as any other class. Therefore, Xth Form is 4th Form, which defeats the purpose.

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:08 pm
by Azure crow
Persongus wrote:
Azure crow wrote: Indeed.
Beside,4th form sounds like it's set,whereas Haseo is basicly online god at the time of Xth form,and is anything besides set.
There is one thing about that logic I've found flawed: Xth Form is unset because it is an illegal class, and hence the X. However, the placement of the X, where there used to be a 1, 2, and 3, represents the chronological order that the weapon was received in. If we think about the class being variable, then all forms are variable because the Adept Rogue chooses their classes, thus determining which forms will be which class, so the numbers are assigned chronologically. Hence, Xth Form is just as set or non-set as any other class. Therefore, Xth Form is 4th Form, which defeats the purpose.
The rouge dosn't choose what order they get the classes in,just what classes they get.
They always get the classes in order of weakest to strongest,Whereas Xth form has no set stragths or weaknesses.

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:30 pm
by Persongus
Azure crow wrote: The rouge dosn't choose what order they get the classes in,just what classes they get.
I never said anything that does not cohere with that.
Azure crow wrote:They always get the classes in order of weakest to strongest,Whereas Xth form has no set stragths or weaknesses.
That, in my amateur opinion, is total and utter bull. Surely you realize it's stronger than any other class, as a hack that is weaker than another class would be quite pointless. This means it must be stronger than Haseo's other three forms, making it his Fourth Form. And logic aside, we the players know it to be quite a bit more useful than the other classes. Besides that, though the forms are ordered from weakest to strongest, it is because they are ordered as such that they receive their numbers, not the other way around. If Haseo started as a Flick Reaper, he would not have started with 3rd Form.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:33 pm
by AuraTwilight
It's called Xth Form because it doesn't fit in the program. Saying Xth Form exists is like saying there are a "Q amount of apples."

It "F*ck The What"s the system. Thus, the Key of the Twilight. It has nothing to do with numerical value or variables.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:42 pm
by Persongus
AuraTwilight wrote:It's called Xth Form because it doesn't fit in the program. Saying Xth Form exists is like saying there are a "Q amount of apples."

It "F*ck The What"s the system. Thus, the Key of the Twilight. It has nothing to do with numerical value or variables.
Hmm... ... *computing logic* ... That is the first time that has been explained that it's made sense to me. Thanks.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:48 pm
by sanga414
isn't the Xth form attk (stat wise or on paper) weaker than a twinblade's attk

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:51 pm
by Dualreact
sanga414 wrote:isn't the Xth form attk (stat wise or on paper) weaker than a twinblade's attk
yes, but xth form guns attack, is almost infinite if you catch an enemy on the air.

Re: Re:

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:06 pm
by Azure crow
Persongus wrote:
Azure crow wrote: The rouge dosn't choose what order they get the classes in,just what classes they get.
I never said anything that does not cohere with that.
Azure crow wrote:They always get the classes in order of weakest to strongest,Whereas Xth form has no set stragths or weaknesses.
That, in my amateur opinion, is total and utter bull. Surely you realize it's stronger than any other class, as a hack that is weaker than another class would be quite pointless. This means it must be stronger than Haseo's other three forms, making it his Fourth Form. And logic aside, we the players know it to be quite a bit more useful than the other classes. Besides that, though the forms are ordered from weakest to strongest, it is because they are ordered as such that they receive their numbers, not the other way around. If Haseo started as a Flick Reaper, he would not have started with 3rd Form.

Let's get technical.
Technically xth form isn't even a form.
It's a state of Haseo's existance in the world.
It is technically not rated,and not even compatable thusly in the rating system,so it can't be placed as strongest or weakest.
It exists in limbo as far as rating goes.
It is Haseo,as much as he is it.It is only called aform because it modifies him in the same ways a job extention would.
So no,it's not his fourth form.it's variabled,in limbo,and unknown.Thusly,it's Xth...or Ath...or Zth...or whatever other variable you choose,but because of common use,Xth is what it's identified as.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:33 am
by justinmarc1
Well... thx aura twilight.... can i be your friend???? i don't have any friends here well atleast not yet...

Haseo looks cool on his new found dress it reflects his emotions towards his friends and it reflects his personality too coz he changed it became white and his eyes in his 3rd form became reddish now full of hope heheheheheheh.... LOL

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:35 am
by Azure crow
justinmarc1 wrote:Well... thx aura twilight.... can i be your friend???? i don't have any friends here well atleast not yet...

Haseo looks cool on his new found dress it reflects his emotions towards his friends and it reflects his personality too coz he changed it became white and his eyes in his 3rd form became reddish now full of hope heheheheheheh.... LOL
His eyes are always red....always.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:21 am
by silabus
well ,is the same reason bout DBZ ,the Z is only Z

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:51 pm
by haseoxth
silabus wrote:well ,is the same reason bout DBZ ,the Z is only Z
No it isnt.The Z was only added to the west to signifiy the seconded season.In Japan,its just Dragonball.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:17 pm
by Ryou_Misaki
I personally like Xth form.....I'm calling it that, if you don't like it, 'F' off.....And I never take mods seriously.....Not after the S.....I might get banned for saying anymore....J/K.....Please don't ban me! I have a wife and 7 kids!.....lol. I'm crazy like that.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:53 pm
by .hack//BICTIOUS
haseoxth wrote:
silabus wrote:well ,is the same reason bout DBZ ,the Z is only Z
No it isnt.The Z was only added to the west to signifiy the seconded season.In Japan,its just Dragonball.
Where'd you get that from? In both America and Japan, it's "Dragon Ball" and "Dragon Ball Z" in the anime. In the manga, the whole thing is "Dragon Ball".

... Though this is off-topic. :x

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:35 pm
by AuraTwilight
Ryou_Misaki wrote:I personally like Xth form.....I'm calling it that, if you don't like it, 'F' off.....And I never take mods seriously.....Not after the S.....I might get banned for saying anymore....J/K.....Please don't ban me! I have a wife and 7 kids!.....lol. I'm crazy like that.
What the f*ck?

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:08 am
by Ryou_Misaki
AuraTwilight wrote:
Ryou_Misaki wrote:I personally like Xth form.....I'm calling it that, if you don't like it, 'F' off.....And I never take mods seriously.....Not after the S.....I might get banned for saying anymore....J/K.....Please don't ban me! I have a wife and 7 kids!.....lol. I'm crazy like that.
What the f*ck?
Oh nothing..... :lol:

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:01 am
by AuraTwilight
Then shut your face and don't spam.

Re: About the Xth form[spoiler]

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:48 pm
by Possibility
ok i got a few questions about xth form. since dual gunning doesnt technically exist does that mean you have the same guns the entire game. also are they upgraddable in anyway like through certain objectives. and also can you use the addons for normal weapons on them, like sleep attack and stuff like that.