"Special."

[Rengeki]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

[Azure crow]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

If it is then I'd be searching.
As far as I know,the english vol 4 isn't out.
If it is I want to know,as I enjoy those books very much.

[Rengeki]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

If it is then I'd be searching.
As far as I know,the english vol 4 isn't out.
If it is I want to know,as I enjoy those books very much.

Yeah, I love 'em too, except how its somewhat innaccurate at times.
And I just checked the release date for vol. 4...July 3, 2007.

[Azure crow]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

If it is then I'd be searching.
As far as I know,the english vol 4 isn't out.
If it is I want to know,as I enjoy those books very much.

Yeah, I love 'em too, except how its somewhat innaccurate at times.
And I just checked the release date for vol. 4...July 3, 2007.

Well,that could be alot worse.

[Rengeki]

Yeah...reminds me of GU vol. 2...
I'll probably be on a trip to PEI during that time, so I'd have to pick it up there.

[Azure crow]

Are you serious?I live there.
Mabye we could make arrangment to meet?
(Keep the rest of this to PMs,we don't want to keep the spam line going)

[Rengeki]

I agree completely...
Back on track, then...
Er...

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

I stand corrected.
And yeah, I figured they must be KOed before falling into a coma...Only makes sense, as you just get a "Gave Over" if you die.
I assume the same rule of the bracelet applies for Data Bugs and AIDA, too.

[Azure crow]

I agree completely...
Back on track, then...
Er...

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

I stand corrected.
And yeah, I figured they must be KOed before falling into a coma...Only makes sense, as you just get a "Gave Over" if you die.
I assume the same rule of the bracelet applies for Data Bugs and AIDA, too.

The grace has no meaing against data bugs,as they can't kill you via data drain anyway,due to not having it.
But when they KO you,your comatose,braclet or not,because the braclets grace fails when your charcter dies,unless you have living tem members.

And we don't know against AIDA.
Haseo never got a twilight braclet,and on top of that he never gave AIDA in it's raw form the chance to attack him in normal form,as he turned into Skeith immediatly ever time he saw them.
Also,the braclet may not work to protect against AIDA,as the braclet was designed to protect against data drain and the phases of morganna,not AIDA,which operates in a very different manner.
Remember,Aura was the one who created the braclet,rather quickly,and she didn't know AIDA existed at the time of it's creation,and a non A.I. program like the braclet can't evolve against something it's never encountered,and cannot register.
In fact,the braclet may become inactive if it's R:1 form was ever loaded into the R:2 server without modification.

[Rengeki]

Yes, I agree.
The points are even further reinforced (I think...) by the fact that AKs bracelet has a piece of it missing.
It seems like a mistake someone-anyone could make-if they were rushing it.

[Azure crow]

Yes, I agree.
The points are even further reinforced (I think...) by the fact that AKs bracelet has a piece of it missing.
It seems like a mistake someone-anyone could make-if they were rushing it.

Actually,the going theory is that Azure Kite damaged his braclet during //roots.
Trying to kill Ovan,I do beleive.

And his braclet is an R:2 version,due to Aura having created Azure Kite from scratch in R:2,including the new braclet.

[FlickerHaseo]

Hmmm, well it seems I'm still confused as to what you're exactly referring to. Though I am past the part where Haseo is granted power by Endrance, I have still yet to beat the game itself. So if you could go into detail as to why exactly his job extensions would lead to skeith's physical change, I'd appreciate it. Keep in mind any spoilers though as we are still on the vol.1 boards. Heh.

But as my knowledge stands as of now, my main question is why didn't Skeith change when Haseo first got his job extension? This is mainly what I would like answered. Though, there's obviously no need to rush. If it's something I'll find out at the end of the game then there's no worries. But I wont be able to play over the weekend so it'll still be awhile before I see the ending. So an answer to this question would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and by some radical chance that the answer somehow lies in a spoiler revealing something from vol.3 then don't bother. I still a oblivious to anything major that happens in the last chapter.

think of it this way.

Skeith is a template.
Haseo is the customization of that plate.
When Haseo changes,Skeioth morphes to reflect what he looks like.
Here are some examples:

True first skeith/haseo twin blade form: would,in theopry,be bare,and look close to the original skeith,but he awakened after this chance to see was past,so.....

"First" form skeith/Haseo Brandish form:You can see that skeith matches Haseo's butt cape,as well as the plate on haseos upper back(look juts behind Skeiths head.He also had a arm cuff pattern that seems the same.

Second form Skith/Flicker Haseo:Skeith matches the spiky design,as well as gets a sythe upgrade to match Haseos new use og the sythe.
He also gets plated in armour,like Haseo.


 Fourth form Skeith/Duel gunner Haseo:Skeith moves away from the sythe weapon,and gets better long range abilities.Skeiths colour pattern changes with Haseo,to white with some black.


Skeith always looks similar to Haseo,as do all the epitpah users and avatars to each other.
Thus,the job extention,which changes Haseo's looks,give Skeith a new look as well.

Yeah, and 2'nd form skeith has a Halo. =P

[Azure crow]

Hmmm, well it seems I'm still confused as to what you're exactly referring to. Though I am past the part where Haseo is granted power by Endrance, I have still yet to beat the game itself. So if you could go into detail as to why exactly his job extensions would lead to skeith's physical change, I'd appreciate it. Keep in mind any spoilers though as we are still on the vol.1 boards. Heh.

But as my knowledge stands as of now, my main question is why didn't Skeith change when Haseo first got his job extension? This is mainly what I would like answered. Though, there's obviously no need to rush. If it's something I'll find out at the end of the game then there's no worries. But I wont be able to play over the weekend so it'll still be awhile before I see the ending. So an answer to this question would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and by some radical chance that the answer somehow lies in a spoiler revealing something from vol.3 then don't bother. I still a oblivious to anything major that happens in the last chapter.

think of it this way.

Skeith is a template.
Haseo is the customization of that plate.
When Haseo changes,Skeioth morphes to reflect what he looks like.
Here are some examples:

True first skeith/haseo twin blade form: would,in theopry,be bare,and look close to the original skeith,but he awakened after this chance to see was past,so.....

"First" form skeith/Haseo Brandish form:You can see that skeith matches Haseo's butt cape,as well as the plate on haseos upper back(look juts behind Skeiths head.He also had a arm cuff pattern that seems the same.

Second form Skith/Flicker Haseo:Skeith matches the spiky design,as well as gets a sythe upgrade to match Haseos new use og the sythe.
He also gets plated in armour,like Haseo.


 Fourth form Skeith/Duel gunner Haseo:Skeith moves away from the sythe weapon,and gets better long range abilities.Skeiths colour pattern changes with Haseo,to white with some black.


Skeith always looks similar to Haseo,as do all the epitpah users and avatars to each other.
Thus,the job extention,which changes Haseo's looks,give Skeith a new look as well.

Yeah, and 2'nd form skeith has a Halo. =P

Not sure what your point is,but a broken Halo has always been part of Skeiths epitaph stone template.
Like certain thangs about each avatar,it dosn't change,just morphs slightly.

[Kouen]

That, or Ovan is some sort of physic and can see how Haseo evolves, and wants the coolest Avatar to help him

Or he could have simply predicted the Epitaph powers that accompany with Skeith. Much like the "Propogation" ability Magus has. Skeith's ability must play a vital role in Ovan's scheme.

[Shin Amakiir]

Regarding the "Skeith's power and looks changes with Haseo" thing...

 When you have your second(?) AIDA battle, it's just after Haseo got his Job Extend. At the start of the battle, a window pops up, saying "With Haseo's Job Extension, Skeith has gained some new powers" or something close to that.

And I'm sure Ovan just chose Haseo because he was the easiest to have access too.

[Azure crow]

I should make a video to disprove the "Skeith's power is changing shape" theory.
I did pretty well destroying the data drain theories via Azure Kite Talks.