50 and 133

[The .hack newbie]

It wouldn't have mattered in the beginning if he won the PK fight because Azure Kite would've just turned into that avatar and put Haseo into a coma.

Azure Flame God can't cause comas.
And Azure Kite would have avoided it anyways.
Otherwise,Data Drain would have been enough to comatize Haseo.

I think they say Azure Kite god is quite similar to an avatar... so he could cause comas or knock outs with the data drain... as any avatar. it is posible... i think.

As for the 133/50 thing... it´s simple... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player... he is invincible.
Haseo was level 133 the first time but he was a normal player.
At the end of the game Azure Kite fights 3 epitaph users all at once...

There is obviously a diference betwen an epitaph and a normal player.

well theres another difference lol hes got 3 people fighting him at once and they all just happen to be epitaph users lol AK was not having a very good day =)

[Azure crow]

It wouldn't have mattered in the beginning if he won the PK fight because Azure Kite would've just turned into that avatar and put Haseo into a coma.

Azure Flame God can't cause comas.
And Azure Kite would have avoided it anyways.
Otherwise,Data Drain would have been enough to comatize Haseo.

I think they say Azure Kite god is quite similar to an avatar... so he could cause comas or knock outs with the data drain... as any avatar. it is posible... i think.

As for the 133/50 thing... it´s simple... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player... he is invincible.
Haseo was level 133 the first time but he was a normal player.
At the end of the game Azure Kite fights 3 epitaph users all at once...

There is obviously a diference betwen an epitaph and a normal player.

He dosn't have the ability to cause comas.
It's that simple.
He's a defense mechanism,not an offensive weapon.It wouldn't be very effective to put those your trying to save into coma,not would it?

The only reason they say it is like an avatar is because it fights like one,can control avatar space,and has the same basic size.
 But Cubia has that ability as well,remember?He's not an avatar.

Pi only said that because she had a brief glimpse of it,and made an assumption.

What about that cutscene in Vol.1 where Azure Kite data drains the normal player? What was he defending? It didn't look like he was defending anything when he did that.
All I really wanted to point out was that even if Haseo was lv. 133 and managed to PK Azure Kite, AZ would've just turned into his "avatar" and wipe the floor with him.

Wether he knew it or not,that player had an AIDA infection,so Azure Kite drained him.
If he ended up in a coma,it was a last ditch effort from AIDA,but if he didn't,then Yata lied to Haseo to get his attention.


And I don't think it was ever a question that Azure Flame God could kill unawakened level 133 Haseo,but I was saying that he wouldn't end up comatose.

[Tenji]

It wouldn't have mattered in the beginning if he won the PK fight because Azure Kite would've just turned into that avatar and put Haseo into a coma.

Azure Flame God can't cause comas.
And Azure Kite would have avoided it anyways.
Otherwise,Data Drain would have been enough to comatize Haseo.

I think they say Azure Kite god is quite similar to an avatar... so he could cause comas or knock outs with the data drain... as any avatar. it is posible... i think.

As for the 133/50 thing... it´s simple... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player... he is invincible.
Haseo was level 133 the first time but he was a normal player.
At the end of the game Azure Kite fights 3 epitaph users all at once...

There is obviously a diference betwen an epitaph and a normal player.

He dosn't have the ability to cause comas.
It's that simple.
He's a defense mechanism,not an offensive weapon.It wouldn't be very effective to put those your trying to save into coma,not would it?

The only reason they say it is like an avatar is because it fights like one,can control avatar space,and has the same basic size.
 But Cubia has that ability as well,remember?He's not an avatar.

Pi only said that because she had a brief glimpse of it,and made an assumption.

Azure Kite´s DD is just as any other DD... it can cause a coma.
(not to do it doesn´t mean he can´t)

He might not be an avatar but he has a the DD hability so... it´s the same.
no DD is 100% sure to cause a coma but the posibility is there.
And for the Pai thing i think they analized the data and found it to be similar to an avatar.

[Azure crow]

It wouldn't have mattered in the beginning if he won the PK fight because Azure Kite would've just turned into that avatar and put Haseo into a coma.

Azure Flame God can't cause comas.
And Azure Kite would have avoided it anyways.
Otherwise,Data Drain would have been enough to comatize Haseo.

I think they say Azure Kite god is quite similar to an avatar... so he could cause comas or knock outs with the data drain... as any avatar. it is posible... i think.

As for the 133/50 thing... it´s simple... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player... he is invincible.
Haseo was level 133 the first time but he was a normal player.
At the end of the game Azure Kite fights 3 epitaph users all at once...

There is obviously a diference betwen an epitaph and a normal player.

He dosn't have the ability to cause comas.
It's that simple.
He's a defense mechanism,not an offensive weapon.It wouldn't be very effective to put those your trying to save into coma,not would it?

The only reason they say it is like an avatar is because it fights like one,can control avatar space,and has the same basic size.
 But Cubia has that ability as well,remember?He's not an avatar.

Pi only said that because she had a brief glimpse of it,and made an assumption.

Azure Kite´s DD is just as any other DD... it can cause a coma.
(not to do it doesn´t mean he can´t)

He might not be an avatar but he has a the DD hability so... it´s the same.
no DD is 100% sure to cause a coma but the posibility is there.
And for the Pai thing i think they analized the data and found it to be similar to an avatar.

His drain is different,which is obvious.
It only has the rewrite ability,because  Aura didn't want him causing comas,which would be counter-productive,and on top of that his drain dosn't need a protect break.
It's unique.
Pi didn't analize it,she just looked at it.
If would be difficult to prepare an analasis,run it,compare it,then get results in the ten second she had between seeing it and saying it.
She just made an assumption(and in my eyes,she proved it by pushing up her glasses,which is a typical "In my proffesional opinion" thing to do) and said what she saw based on size,summoning action,and the fact that avatar space was there for it.

DD is 100% sure to cause a coma but the posibility is there

If it was built with with ability to cause comas at all,then a proper data drain would cause a coma without chance.
It's not like medical science,as everything is preset in terms of the data-mind connection The World makes.
There's rarely room for chance in anything.

[Tenji]

It wouldn't have mattered in the beginning if he won the PK fight because Azure Kite would've just turned into that avatar and put Haseo into a coma.

Azure Flame God can't cause comas.
And Azure Kite would have avoided it anyways.
Otherwise,Data Drain would have been enough to comatize Haseo.

I think they say Azure Kite god is quite similar to an avatar... so he could cause comas or knock outs with the data drain... as any avatar. it is posible... i think.

As for the 133/50 thing... it´s simple... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player... he is invincible.
Haseo was level 133 the first time but he was a normal player.
At the end of the game Azure Kite fights 3 epitaph users all at once...

There is obviously a diference betwen an epitaph and a normal player.

He dosn't have the ability to cause comas.
It's that simple.
He's a defense mechanism,not an offensive weapon.It wouldn't be very effective to put those your trying to save into coma,not would it?

The only reason they say it is like an avatar is because it fights like one,can control avatar space,and has the same basic size.
 But Cubia has that ability as well,remember?He's not an avatar.

Pi only said that because she had a brief glimpse of it,and made an assumption.

Azure Kite´s DD is just as any other DD... it can cause a coma.
(not to do it doesn´t mean he can´t)

He might not be an avatar but he has a the DD hability so... it´s the same.
no DD is 100% sure to cause a coma but the posibility is there.
And for the Pai thing i think they analized the data and found it to be similar to an avatar.

His drain is different,which is obvious.
It only has the rewrite ability,because  Aura didn't want him causing comas,which would be counter-productive,and on top of that his drain dosn't need a protect break.
It's unique.
Pi didn't analize it,she just looked at it.
If would be difficult to prepare an analasis,run it,compare it,then get results in the ten second she had between seeing it and saying it.
She just made an assumption(and in my eyes,she proved it by pushing up her glasses,which is a typical "In my proffesional opinion" thing to do) and said what she saw based on size,summoning action,and the fact that avatar space was there for it.

DD is 100% sure to cause a coma but the posibility is there

If it was built with with ability to cause comas at all,then a proper data drain would cause a coma without chance.
It's not like medical science,as everything is preset in terms of the data-mind connection The World makes.
There's rarely room for chance in anything.

Azure Kite is build on  Aura´s memories about Kite... so his DD is as good to cause comas as any otherone.
PLUS most of DD doesn´t need to protect break... i think even Haseo´s... he just do so because is safer (and for game mechanics) but think about any other avatar fight and if you´ve been DD you won´t remember Haseo´s protect break before a DD.
Pi might have analyzed... or might not, that you can judge... but it looked to me that either she or yata should have analyzed him.

DD is dangerous no matter who performes it... it has the hability to cause comas but like any DD is not a 100% chance.
Azure Kite is not an avatar, but he is as dangerus as one.

[Azure crow]

I'm ending the quote pyramid.

Auara may have built him based on memories,but she's not stupid enough to think that if any one thing was different it would change him.
She didn't want anyone going into a coma,so she didn't give him the ability to cause them.
If she did it would be like giving a guard a nucular awrhead and telling him to sue it if the enemy tried to use theirs.

Why do you think any data drain isn't 100%?
Has there ever been an incident where a data drain that has the ability to cause comas hit and didn't put the target into a coma?

Azure Kite dosn't have a braclet with that kind of ability,only the ability to tamper with data,rewrite it,absorb it,and delete it.
AIDA is technically data,so it works on it.
Any concious mind isn't effected by the braclet(in fact,the thing broke during //roots).

[Tenji]

I'm ending the quote pyramid.

Auara may have built him based on memories,but she's not stupid enough to think that if any one thing was different it would change him.
She didn't want anyone going into a coma,so she didn't give him the ability to cause them.
If she did it would be like giving a guard a nucular awrhead and telling him to sue it if the enemy tried to use theirs.

That is offcourse your opinion... but so far you gave no proff about WHY it shoud be diferent. (unless the  Aura thing is something that is actualy said at vol 3 or in the perfect book... and i am refearing to the fact that she gave him an special non-comatose brazalet ´cause i do know she made him)
protect break is no proof scinse if for game mechanics and any avatar can use a DD without breaking it.
when Kite drained Haseo at vol 1 he lost consiusness for a while... (not a coma, is not the same. but the fact that it can afect a player consiusness remain)

Why do you think any data drain isn't 100%?
Has there ever been an incident where a data drain that has the ability to cause comas hit and didn't put the target into a coma?

How about almost every avatar battle? when you fight Pi per example.
also some characters say it in the game... being an avatar protects you till certain point.
in normal characters even being Pk by an avatar is enought but is not sure to happen.
Yowkow didn´t fall but Bordeux did (or at least i think so... just after you beat her in the arena there is new in the net pages telling a girl fell into a coma... you even see an image or a video of the girl i think)

Azure Kite dosn't have a braclet with that kind of ability,only the ability to tamper with data,rewrite it,absorb it,and delete it.
AIDA is technically data,so it works on it.
Any concious mind isn't effected by the braclet(in fact,the thing broke during //roots).

His modeled after the original Kite... and he even looks incomplete. (probably due to a lack of time on  Aura´s side) so why if she didn´t even had the time to build a complete version would she remove or change functions?
she created him and gave him a simple comand... his mision is to  eliminate the AIDAs or threats to the system he has no sense of diference nor a complicated AI system... so he makes no diferences... but there is no reason to think his powers are diferents from the original Kite.
Azure Kite has Kite powers so it can cause comas, as Kite could... he should not attack players scinse he is not programed to do so (unless they are infected) but it does not mean that it couldn´t happen.

[Azure crow]

That is offcourse your opinion... but so far you gave no proff about WHY it shoud be diferent. (unless the  Aura thing is something that is actualy said at vol 3 or in the perfect book... and i am refearing to the fact that she gave him an special non-comatose brazalet ´cause i do know she made him)
protect break is no proof scinse if for game mechanics and any avatar can use a DD without breaking it.
when Kite drained Haseo at vol 1 he lost consiusness for a while... (not a coma, is not the same. but the fact that it can afect a player consiusness remain)

It's a simple fact that she created the braclet in a new way,so she wouild have have to reinstall or recreate everything in it.
This gave her the ability to freehandle the programs in it,such as the part of the braclet that causes comas.
Being knocked out dosn't implie that he can cause comas.
An avatar CAN use it without protect breaking,but all it serves to do it lower the protect break status.
It tries to get at the concious,and fails,so it attacks whats in the way,which is the protect barrier.
And the fact that Azure Kite is a defense mechanism is proof enough of the braclet theory.

How about almost every avatar battle? when you fight Pi per example.
also some characters say it in the game... being an avatar protects you till certain point.
in normal characters even being Pk by an avatar is enought but is not sure to happen.
Yowkow didn´t fall but Bordeux did (or at least i think so... just after you beat her in the arena there is new in the net pages telling a girl fell into a coma... you even see an image or a video of the girl i think)

If the epitaph user is protect broken,then data drained,they will 100% be put into a coma.
Like I said "If a data drain is properly used" there is no room for failure.
And a PK isn't a data drain,it's contact with a <data blade>,so that dosn't count.

His modeled after the original Kite... and he even looks incomplete. (probably due to a lack of time on  Aura´s side) so why if she didn´t even had the time to build a complete version would she remove or change functions?
she created him and gave him a simple comand... his mision is to  eliminate the AIDAs or threats to the system he has no sense of diference nor a complicated AI system... so he makes no diferences... but there is no reason to think his powers are diferents from the original Kite.
Azure Kite has Kite powers so it can cause comas, as Kite could... he should not attack players scinse he is not programed to do so (unless they are infected) but it does not mean that it couldn´t happen.[/quote

You seem to be under the immpretion that the data used to built Azure Kite has some link to the old kites data or braclet.
Aura created an entirly new braclet,as ther eis no program with lying around called twilight_braclet_install.exe for Aura to use.
She created a braclet from scratch,thus no Cubia from it,and thus no coma effects from it.
She wouldn have had to put in the ability to cause a coma,and unles you could tell me why she would do that,she wouldn't.

[Tenji]

It's a simple fact that she created the braclet in a new way,so she wouild have have to reinstall or recreate everything in it.
This gave her the ability to freehandle the programs in it,such as the part of the braclet that causes comas.
Being knocked out dosn't implie that he can cause comas.
An avatar CAN use it without protect breaking,but all it serves to do it lower the protect break status.
It tries to get at the concious,and fails,so it attacks whats in the way,which is the protect barrier.
And the fact that Azure Kite is a defense mechanism is proof enough of the braclet theory.

No. Again... it is your opinion. "Azure Kite mision is to eliminate the threats" not to "protect the players"... he is not a complex being.
The power of the brazalet can bring salvation or destruction... even if the intentions are good things can go bad.
It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach de consiuseness and damage the player.

If the epitaph user is protect broken,then data drained,they will 100% be put into a coma.

You are wrong. Pi didn´t go comatose, and she didn´t have the "propagation hability" like Kuhn.
Saku fell uncouncius... and i think something like that happened to Endrance too.

Like I said "If a data drain is properly used" there is no room for failure.
And a PK isn't a data drain,it's contact with a <data blade>,so that dosn't count.

PK doesn´t count as a Data Drain but it´s never stated that a normal player shoud be data drained to fall in coma.
all they say is that epitaphs are dangerus and can affect other players.
Again... Bordeux fell into a coma and Yowkow didn´t... both of them sliced by the scythe.
As for the "proper use thing" i already mentioned Pai and the other epitaphs.

[Rengeki]

Like I said "If a data drain is properly used" there is no room for failure.
And a PK isn't a data drain,it's contact with a <data blade>,so that dosn't count.

PK doesn´t count as a Data Drain but it´s never stated that a normal player shoud be data drained to fall in coma.
all they say is that epitaphs are dangerus and can affect other players.
Again... Bordeux fell into a coma and Yowkow didn´t... both of them sliced by the scythe.
As for the "proper use thing" i already mentioned Pai and the other epitaphs.

But didnt Yowkow survive?
If I recall correctly, she got up after the match and declared Haseo a cheater...

[Tenji]

Like I said "If a data drain is properly used" there is no room for failure.
And a PK isn't a data drain,it's contact with a <data blade>,so that dosn't count.

PK doesn´t count as a Data Drain but it´s never stated that a normal player shoud be data drained to fall in coma.
all they say is that epitaphs are dangerus and can affect other players.
Again... Bordeux fell into a coma and Yowkow didn´t... both of them sliced by the scythe.
As for the "proper use thing" i already mentioned Pai and the other epitaphs.

But didnt Yowkow survive?
If I recall correctly, she got up after the match and declared Haseo a cheater...

No. after Haseo summoned Skeith it was game over for Alkaid... but she didn´t fell into a coma nor lose consiusness... on the other hand... Bordeux wasn´t that lucky.

Afther dat she did call Haseo a cheater, but the mach was over... "you have that big cheater as well" or something like that... but is not posible for any normal player to survive an avatar hit.

[Samuel]

Or maybe because Azure Kite is only part of Kites data the coding for the DD attack wasn't completed? As was his speech and zombie-fied look? So maybe his DD doesnt work 100% all the time?

Now can we all f***ing get back on topic please?

[Tenji]

right...
well... as i was saying before all this... Azure Kite can´t be defeated by a normal player.

Phyllo was a strong player (probably stronger than Haseo in his "terror of death days"... and he couldn´t.
Then Haseo at level 133 was defeated.
Midori was just able to run away.
Ovan was level 90 and he won but he used  AIDA.

So, it´s been shown that a normal player is no mach for the abnomalities.-
probably the abnomalies have all unreal parameters or something... like when a normal pc looks an avatar battle... they can´t see it... for them is "instant death".
Mybe for a normal player Azure Kite´s HP is not normal... like infinite or something. Maybe the abnomalities don´t receive any damage from normal pcs. (Azure Kite does have the green shield when he parry, like the invincible monsters in the previous series)

Avatars and AIDAS are beyond parameters... something like that is probably the storywise/logical reason though we all know is about game mechanics

[.hack//BICTIOUS]

Ovan was level 90

Source? Levels were barely mentioned in the anime.

[Samuel]

Ovan was level 90

Source? Levels were barely mentioned in the anime.

It makes no difference in the argument.

[Azure crow]

It's a simple fact that she created the braclet in a new way,so she wouild have have to reinstall or recreate everything in it.
This gave her the ability to freehandle the programs in it,such as the part of the braclet that causes comas.
Being knocked out dosn't implie that he can cause comas.
An avatar CAN use it without protect breaking,but all it serves to do it lower the protect break status.
It tries to get at the concious,and fails,so it attacks whats in the way,which is the protect barrier.
And the fact that Azure Kite is a defense mechanism is proof enough of the braclet theory.

No. Again... it is your opinion. "Azure Kite mision is to eliminate the threats" not to "protect the players"... he is not a complex being.
The power of the brazalet can bring salvation or destruction... even if the intentions are good things can go bad.
It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach the consiuseness and damage the player.

You still havn't given me a reason as to why Aura would give Azure Kite the ability to cause comas.
What perpose would it serve?
All it would do is indanger the plyers,whom she left The World to protect.
She wouldn't give him the ability to cause trauma serious enough for a coma.
And the reason Haseo fell unconcious is likely because his epitpah connects him to his player more,so he felt the drain more severly than an non-epitaph user or non-AIDA PC would.

If the epitaph user is protect broken,then data drained,they will 100% be put into a coma.

You are wrong. Pi didn´t go comatose, and she didn´t have the "propagation hability" like Kuhn.
Saku fell uncouncius... and i think something like that happened to Endrance too.

She didn't go comatose because AIDA had infected her.
Why do yout think they made such a big deal about Kuhn and not Pi in situations where data drain was used?
The protect break of an AIDA pc or AIDA epitaph user only acts to protect the AIDA,instead of the player.
It's a slashing at layers issue

Like I said "If a data drain is properly used" there is no room for failure.
And a PK isn't a data drain,it's contact with a <data blade>,so that dosn't count.

PK doesn´t count as a Data Drain but it´s never stated that a normal player shoud be data drained to fall in coma.
all they say is that epitaphs are dangerus and can affect other players.
Again... Bordeux fell into a coma and Yowkow didn´t... both of them sliced by the scythe.
As for the "proper use thing" i already mentioned Pai and the other epitaphs.

Baurdaux woke up,remember?
She only fell unconcious.
The argument you were trying to make was that data drain wasn't a 100% chance issue,so you contradicted yourself.
An avatar PK isn't 100%,that's true.
It's likely not even 50% at the level of control Haseo had.
And Alkaid was just in the other 50%,so she likely felt a headache,or some form of mental pain,but it passed quickly.
And just because Kuhn says an Avatar PK can cause a coma without intending it,that dosn't mean it can.
How often do you think Kuhn or Pi avatar Pk'd anyone?
They were just assuming it when they saw the players get knocked out.
That's not to say an Avata PK can't cause a coma with intention though,as they could cause comas if it was a priority.
Otherwise,a PK from them would have the same affect as any hostile encounter with <Data Blade>.

Source? Levels were barely mentioned in the anime

He's level 90 in the game,and he never trained against strong enough monsters to level in //roots.
And he was the same level in Vol 1 and 2,which means he never took time to train.

[Tenji]

this one was a proff:

"It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach de consiuseness and damage the player. "

Also the way of act of Azure Kite shows he is not a complex A.I., and the way he looks show us that he is incomplete.

Due to this 2 things we can say it was constructed "fast" to respond to the threat.
Also he and his DD looks like Kite´s.

So, if he was constructed that way, and that fast... that he can´t even think or do any complex actions, why if he was bouit that way would his DD be diferent to Kite´s.
Also the fact that Haseo did fainted.

But scinse you have your own opinion and i have no more arguments than this ones and the PI/Yowkow/Bordeux things (an, and i understand that these are not strong enought to change your mind, nor was that my intention) to keep repeating myself would be useless.
So, i will drop this tilll i have new arguments or something.

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back to topic... yes, i said the Ovan level thing based on what you just said and the point in mentioning Ovan was just to show why did he won.

[Azure crow]

[quote="Tenji"]this one was a proff:

"It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach de consiuseness and damage the player. "

Also the way of act of Azure Kite shows he is not a complex A.I., and the way he looks show us that he is incomplete.

Due to this 2 things we can say it was constructed "fast" to respond to the threat.
Also he and his DD looks like Kite´s.

So, if he was constructed that way, and that fast... that he can´t even think or do any complex actions, why if he was bouit that way would his DD be diferent to Kite´s.
Also the fact that Haseo did fainted.

quote]


I still think you beleive what Aura did was basicly a copy and paste of Kite's data.
Aura made Azure Kite totally new,without any old data,and the braclet he got was new as well,and it didn't have the ability to cause serious enough trauma to force a coma,so it didn 't matter if Azure Kite had tehe complexity to think about it,as he didn't have the ability at all.

[Tenji]

this one was a proff:

"It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach de consiuseness and damage the player. "

Also the way of act of Azure Kite shows he is not a complex A.I., and the way he looks show us that he is incomplete.

Due to this 2 things we can say it was constructed "fast" to respond to the threat.
Also he and his DD looks like Kite´s.

So, if he was constructed that way, and that fast... that he can´t even think or do any complex actions, why if he was bouit that way would his DD be diferent to Kite´s.
Also the fact that Haseo did fainted.

I still think you beleive what Aura did was basicly a copy and paste of Kite's data.
Aura made Azure Kite totally new,without any old data,and the braclet he got was new as well,and it didn't have the ability to cause serious enough trauma to force a coma,so it didn 't matter if Azure Kite had tehe complexity to think about it,as he didn't have the ability at all.

I won´t change my opinion. if when i play vol 3 i discover you where right... then i´ll aknowlodge it. (or if the perfect guide says something or if there is any other proof)
To me Aura made a copy of Kite based on her memories... and due to the lack of time it is incomplete but i think he is as dangerus as the original.
I won´t try to prove this anymore to you... scince it would be repeting myself and you have your own opinions.
So unless there is new evidence keeping with this discusion is useless.

[Azure crow]

this one was a proff:

"It is true that being knoked out does not prove that it can cause comas, but it proves that it can reach de consiuseness and damage the player. "

Also the way of act of Azure Kite shows he is not a complex A.I., and the way he looks show us that he is incomplete.

Due to this 2 things we can say it was constructed "fast" to respond to the threat.
Also he and his DD looks like Kite´s.

So, if he was constructed that way, and that fast... that he can´t even think or do any complex actions, why if he was bouit that way would his DD be diferent to Kite´s.
Also the fact that Haseo did fainted.

I still think you beleive what Aura did was basicly a copy and paste of Kite's data.
Aura made Azure Kite totally new,without any old data,and the braclet he got was new as well,and it didn't have the ability to cause serious enough trauma to force a coma,so it didn 't matter if Azure Kite had tehe complexity to think about it,as he didn't have the ability at all.

I won´t change my opinion. if when i play vol 3 i discover you where right... then i´ll aknowlodge it. (or if the perfect guide says something or if there is any other proof)
To me Aura made a copy of Kite based on her memories... and due to the lack of time it is incomplete but i think he is as dangerus as the original.
I won´t try to prove this anymore to you... scince it would be repeting myself and you have your own opinions.
So unless there is new evidence keeping with this discusion is useless.

We'll both keep out opinions,and agree to disagree?
Fair enough.It takes a strong mind to do such a thing.
I was about to do the same,but was in a fairly bad mood,so I hope you'll forgive if I spoke in any way that seemed hostile during the conversation.
It was unintentional.Keep in mind that your opinions arn'y immpossible or invalid,but I just see things being more logically a different way.

If evidence come sup either way,please tell me,although I do beleive the perfect guide says something about this......I'm not totally clear on it.