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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:23 pm
by Kuukai
Umm, Azure Flame Kite's role was never retconned. If you'd rather they change it, then you want a retcon. Also, it's not like they waved their hands and proclaimed Unison was canon. You know what it came boxed with? The Udeden audio drama. If you like Unison so much, you should be able to understand that to make things like that it might be necessary to go outside the bounds of canon. Without fully considering what they were planning on doing later, they went ahead and made it anyway, so that you could enjoy Sora bouncing around and attacking Mistral, and monkey dancing or whatever... And they still have the convenient AI excuse anyway, so who knows? Regardless, they probably planned that Haseo would be Sora from the beginning of the .hack//G.U. project, even if they never really worked it into the story very well...

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:44 pm
by Azure crow
or it's just another one of those things that they left for us to figure out,and it DID raise alot of questions,which in the end created heavier speculation and more desire to play the game.
I'd say we are little more than puppets in their hands.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:13 pm
by DeathGuise_of_Oblivion
I kind of liked the idea of Haseo being a fresh new player in The World. And then they decide to **** slap me with this bull- no wait. Its not even worth ****. This is chickenshit. Completely pointless and stupid.

The only plus in this if he meets up with Takumi Hito in real life, and they start hanging out.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:33 pm
by Chili
DeathGuise_of_Oblivion wrote:The only plus in this if he meets up with Takumi Hito in real life, and they start hanging out.
...Who? o.o?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:53 pm
by .hack//BICTIOUS
Wiseman and Yata's player. Not that it matters. I don't think Sora ever met Wiseman, much less knows his player.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:20 am
by Chili
.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:Wiseman and Yata's player. Not that it matters. I don't think Sora ever met Wiseman, much less knows his player.
Well...gee.

I mean they were in the same class and...not much association with that...

...Oh well. It's not like they were close anyway. Same section, different interests. Wiseman liked trading, Pokemon and soccer, Sora loved harassing female PCs for their member adds.

Yeah. I get it. :P

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:07 am
by Exotahu
Chili wrote:
.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:Wiseman and Yata's player. Not that it matters. I don't think Sora ever met Wiseman, much less knows his player.
Well...gee.

I mean they were in the same class and...not much association with that...

...Oh well. It's not like they were close anyway. Same section, different interests. Wiseman liked trading, Pokemon and soccer, Sora loved harassing female PCs for their member adds.

Yeah. I get it. :P
I thought it was Digimon, not Pokemon.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:10 am
by Chili
Exotahu wrote:I thought it was Digimon, not Pokemon.
Oops! My bad! XD Digimon!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:32 am
by juunishi master
I was surprised at the first time too.

You know? I thought someone who ever experienced coma because of The World won't ever try it again. But it's wrong.

For a faster and more hack-and-slash gameplay, I think it's fine if Haseo is Sora.

Hehe.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:21 pm
by Chili
juunishi master wrote:You know? I thought someone who ever experienced coma because of The World won't ever try it again. But it's wrong.

For a faster and more hack-and-slash gameplay, I think it's fine if Haseo is Sora.

Hehe.
LOL

Wait. Didn't he forget he ever played R:1 drn amnesia?

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:08 pm
by juunishi master
Yep. He lost some of his memory included the memory about playing The World R:1. It's a great idea to bring back a "veteran" that experienced an awful DD by erasing his memories.

Hehe.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:28 am
by Kuukai
Chili wrote:
.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:Wiseman and Yata's player. Not that it matters. I don't think Sora ever met Wiseman, much less knows his player.
Well...gee.

I mean they were in the same class and...not much association with that...

...Oh well. It's not like they were close anyway. Same section, different interests. Wiseman liked trading, Pokemon and soccer, Sora loved harassing female PCs for their member adds.

Yeah. I get it. :P
Umm, I don't think it was ever stated that they were in the same class, or even that they knew each other. I think that's a weird rumor... At the time, Wiseman was probably not even living in the same city...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:32 pm
by DarkChaos
The truth is, fans in Japan loved Sora so much that they wanted him back. I believe many people even wrote to Famitsu magazine about it. It's a known fact(in Japan) that many ideas in the .hack world come from ideas of the fans and from other MMO's. It wasn't originally planned to have him come back, but with so many requests it was done. It just had to be done in a way that would fit with the storyline as all the ideas have been. That is also where you get most of the anime and manga from, that is canon and non-canon. Ideas that can't fit into the game. It's all screwed up and confusing. I think the fans make it even more confusing than it should be. Ohwell.....about Sora part of me likes it, part of me doesn't.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:01 pm
by Kuukai
Actually, the Japanese fans are as against the Haseo thing and the abundance of non-canon as we are (at least the online ones, the ones they get their feedback from), and I'm pretty sure CC2 planned Haseo would be Sora since before they even made the proto trailer...

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:58 pm
by Jimbob
Wow whats the big deal? He might as well not be Sora, since it's only vaguely hinted at in the game itself and his memories are gone and aren't coming back. He's a completely different person now.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:08 pm
by Azure crow
indeed.
He changed quite a bit,and it's not like knowing who he was changes the story.

(on another note,I'm suprised Rengeki didn;t post my video when you were talking about Azure Kite,as he loes so love to shove it around the net,not that I mind.)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:18 pm
by Red Frost
Jimbob wrote:Wow whats the big deal? He might as well not be Sora, since it's only vaguely hinted at in the game itself and his memories are gone and aren't coming back. He's a completely different person now.
Here-Here... If his old personality came back, he'd probably PK his girl friends left and right... Well, he does already have their Member Addresses... I wonder what he does when he finally gets their Member Address?

I think I remember him crying in Unison because he had no friends.. I really felt sorry for him, but then Tsukasa invited him to join their weird ass dance. ^_^

At least he's got a lot of good friends now, (And potential mates, woo!).

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:15 pm
by ShinoBee
When I first heard about .hack//G.U., I was so excited, especially hearing about PKs roaming around everywhere. I even had this little joke of the users idolizing Sora.

For some reason, I already had a feeling that Misaki Ryo was also the user behind Sora. Why? Because I checked Haseo's age and did the math from there. And the interesting part was, this was when there was barely any evidence, except the age. I mean, right after Ryo woke up from the coma, wasn't it obvious that his parents wouldn't let him play that game ever again and even lie to him about the incident? Sora in UNISON is definitely an AI, since I could actually imagine with enough old data, it was possible to make an AI like the actual Sora. And not only that, but if you were Mr. and Mrs. Misaki, would you let your child play the same game that got him into a coma?

Either way, I'm pretty happy to find out Haseo and Sora are the same person. :)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:22 pm
by Dark Knight Sparda
ShinoBee wrote:When I first heard about .hack//G.U., I was so excited, especially hearing about PKs roaming around everywhere. I even had this little joke of the users idolizing Sora.

For some reason, I already had a feeling that Misaki Ryo was also the user behind Sora. Why? Because I checked Haseo's age and did the math from there. And the interesting part was, this was when there was barely any evidence, except the age. I mean, right after Ryo woke up from the coma, wasn't it obvious that his parents wouldn't let him play that game ever again and even lie to him about the incident? Sora in UNISON is definitely an AI, since I could actually imagine with enough old data, it was possible to make an AI like the actual Sora. And not only that, but if you were Mr. and Mrs. Misaki, would you let your child play the same game that got him into a coma?

Either way, I'm pretty happy to find out Haseo and Sora are the same person. :)

Ai Sora is really Skeith not, but maybe

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:38 pm
by Bulletcatcher
Dark Knight Sparda wrote:
ShinoBee wrote:When I first heard about .hack//G.U., I was so excited, especially hearing about PKs roaming around everywhere. I even had this little joke of the users idolizing Sora.

For some reason, I already had a feeling that Misaki Ryo was also the user behind Sora. Why? Because I checked Haseo's age and did the math from there. And the interesting part was, this was when there was barely any evidence, except the age. I mean, right after Ryo woke up from the coma, wasn't it obvious that his parents wouldn't let him play that game ever again and even lie to him about the incident? Sora in UNISON is definitely an AI, since I could actually imagine with enough old data, it was possible to make an AI like the actual Sora. And not only that, but if you were Mr. and Mrs. Misaki, would you let your child play the same game that got him into a coma?

Either way, I'm pretty happy to find out Haseo and Sora are the same person. :)

Ai Sora is really Skeith not, but maybe
She means the Sora in Unison. The Skeith controlled AI was in Zero and Liminality.