Tabby

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:26 pm

Heh, if the Tabby = Atoli thing comes true I'm gonna get to give a big "I told you so". I proposed that theory awhile ago.

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:44 pm

BTW, I´m not taking any credit for this theory, i´m just agreeing with that (at some points). We´ll figure it out later to see if this theory is right or no.

Nenja · Post by **Nenja** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:46 pm

do Tabby and Shino have the same VA?

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:51 pm

there are only 6 episodes of roots left.... wow... 26... wait 27 weeks since the death of one of the staff.... ): its been a long time.

Tabby... hmmm.. i think she is... even if shes not it would still work... even if it doesn't play out like that.

Kurotsuki · Post by **Kurotsuki** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:29 pm

I don't know, I just don't see Tabby and Atoli being the same person. I need someone to shove some factual hardcore evidence in my face before I even CONSIDER that to be a possibility. I think it would be hard for Atoli to be acting dumb and pretending to not know about Shino if she really is Tabby. If Tabby can't even help Haseo with his emotional issues, how in the world can she lie to Haseo and her- wait... I just remembered Tabby's schitzo personality thing. Hm, so maybe she CAN be Atoli.. I still say shove some factual hardcore evidence in my face!

Because I'm just dense.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:15 pm

hm... we don't really have any, but there are a number of things that suggest as much.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:26 pm

Well, for one, Atoli honestly has no idea who Shino is, when she was confronted with the question even when Haseo wasn't there.

Secondly, Atoli is even more ignorant about the game than Tabby.

Thirdly, they have different speaking dialects, attitudes, mannerisms, and personalities.

Fourth, Tabby's not a Factor Possessor.

Fifth, Atoli doesn't know Kuhn and has never heard of the Twilight Brigade or Ovan.

Sixth, Atoli claims this is the first time she's played an MMORPG.

Occam's Razor.

kiddster · Post by **kiddster** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:50 am

you are right the character atoli doesnt know that stuff but also they are playing there new character like tawaraya took a new character and denied all of being tawaraya and also i thought in one of the books they could change there voices also you can lie abgout being a newb they already done it once in the series. also it seems that tabby doesnt act like that in the real world any way. lastly i forgot how they get a factor possessor

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:09 am

Nenja wrote:do Tabby and Shino have the same VA?

No.

Tabby's seiyuu is Megumi Toyoguchi, the one who voiced Mimiru. Shino's seiyuu is Kaori Nazuka, the one who voiced Subaru. Atoli's seiyuu is Ayako Kawasumi, the one who voiced Hotaru.

Megumi Toyoguchi also voiced Sakubo in GU, and Ayako Kawasumi voiced Wool in Roots.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:22 am

AuraTwilight wrote:Fourth, Tabby's not a Factor Possessor.

Neither were Naobi or Ender.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:50 am

They're probably two different people. i'm just curious about tabby's role towards the end of roots.

Rellan · Post by **Rellan** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:16 am

True it seems highly unlikely, after all, they have two completely different personalities... but thinking back to A.I. Buster 1 and 2, that shouldn't really matter.

Right now in Roots Tabby wants nothing more than to help Haseo, to merely be noticed by him..but she refuses to believe that he doesnt need/want her help (and has 6 more episodes to do so

). If she wants to be noticed so badly that she'd create a PC that mimics Shino physically, I guess we'll have to see.

Also fits in with The Mirage of Deceit nicely, meh.

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:27 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, for one, Atoli honestly has no idea who Shino is, when she was confronted with the question even when Haseo wasn't there.

Secondly, Atoli is even more ignorant about the game than Tabby.

Thirdly, they have different speaking dialects, attitudes, mannerisms, and personalities.

Fourth, Tabby's not a Factor Possessor.

Fifth, Atoli doesn't know Kuhn and has never heard of the Twilight Brigade or Ovan.

Sixth, Atoli claims this is the first time she's played an MMORPG.

Occam's Razor.

First, Second, Fifth and Sixth: If Atoli were Tabby, the first thing that she would do, is not to mention about her past in //roots, and she would be playing dumb, in order to not get discovered by Haseo, Kuhn or someone else.

Third, just like Ender/Naobi have different personalities than Pai/Yata. Or just like Tawaraya/Touta as well.

Fourth: Just like someone else have said it: Ender & Naobi aren´t, either.

Kurotsuki · Post by **Kurotsuki** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:20 pm

Okay, let me see if I can counter those.

To address the First, Second, Fifth and Sixth counters made by pekerman, Atoli would have to be as dumb as a goddamn rock with the attention span of a 3 year old to be able to pass through an entire game or two without spilling the beans. Tabby even did it once, and it wasn't even episode 13. The girl caved in before the halfway mark of the series. She won't last much longer in my opinion. I'll probably fall for her new attitude BUT, Atoli wouldn't be able to pull that off if she is Tabby. Going to have to get some new evidence. =D

To counter the Third counter made by pekerman, Touta is still the same. He just doesn't act as high and in charge as before. Remember, he told Haseo he changed as well. Whereas Ender and Naobi didn't really make much of a change, they decided to drop the characters as TaN was disbanded. Pai does act different from the way Ender normally would, but you have to take into consideration the possible administration status she holds. She wouldn't lose it doing something stupid. Yata still acts the same as Naobi, only the obsession for Ovan isn't directly present and he wouldn't want to lose his administration status if he held it as well. Get new evidence.

To counter the Fourth counter made by pekerman, so what if Naobi and Ender aren't Factor Possessors? You can't prove when they got their Avatars(Yata and Pai), so you can't really say the same rule or law applies to Tabby / Atoli. Tabby isn't a System Admin, she wouldn't know what to do if she logged in one day and had some amazing powers. She'd flip out. How do you think Haseo is handling his new found power? Well, he's depressed so he doesn't count. Atleast Pai knew who to turn to, Yata. So even IF Atoli was Tabby, and Atoli is a factor possessor where as Tabby is not, she'd confront Haseo about it at some point. Because Tabby has witnessed Haseo change (Change as in she's seen him grow stronger abnormally, and think that if it happened to her [assuming she is Atoli] he would know how to help) and I'm sure even THAT girl could put 2 and 2 together.

I don't think that last arguement came out right but whatever. Works for me. =)

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:11 pm

Good point. Anyway, I´m not telling directly that Tabby = Atoli. But this theory should not be discarded either (that´s what I´m really saying)

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:46 pm

Fourth, Tabby's not a Factor Possessor.

Tabby in roots maybe. But I doubt the Phases are looking for vessels just by how their characters look.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:58 pm

Neither were Naobi or Ender.

Pai and Yata were their original characters though. Naobi and Ender were made as under-cover secondary PC's.

If she wants to be noticed so badly that she'd create a PC that mimics Shino physically, I guess we'll have to see.

If that were the case, why would Atoli be SO MAD that Haseo would compare her to Shino, knowing he would?

First, Second, Fifth and Sixth: If Atoli were Tabby, the first thing that she would do, is not to mention about her past in //roots, and she would be playing dumb, in order to not get discovered by Haseo, Kuhn or someone else.

Tabby's proved herself to be a shitty liar.

Tabby in roots maybe. But I doubt the Phases are looking for vessels just by how their characters look.

If Tabby where even a candidate for an Avatar, she would've gotten one on her very first log in as Tabby upon creation of her character just like Haseo. Tabby does not have what it takes to be an Epitaph Weilder. FACT.

kiddster · Post by **kiddster** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:22 pm

was wondering have they stated how they got there avatar

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:11 pm

It's stated that the Avatars "Choose" their owners and infuse themselves into the character upon character creation. Haseo, for example, had Skeith the very minute he finished creating his character.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:03 am

AuraTwilight wrote:If Tabby where even a candidate for an Avatar, she would've gotten one on her very first log in as Tabby upon creation of her character just like Haseo. Tabby does not have what it takes to be an Epitaph Weilder. FACT.

Because Tabby wasn't yet lying and deceving, Innis would have no interest in her. However, if she creates the Atoli "PC Body", she would. It's as simple as that.

Also, it's been mentioned that only a Harvest can be of real use to Haseo. Which gives Tabby more reason to reroll her character.