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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:32 pm
by haseoxth
Azure crow wrote:i always thought that the fact that skeith is the only avatar to have the power to upgrade,and its gave haseo an almost immediate mastery of it,enough to beat 2 experienced epitph users almost immediatly made it alot mare advanced then the others,plus it was designed to collect data on death,and incorparate it into the ultimate AI gave it the most feeling presence of the phases.
he never really beat to expirenced epitaph users...two had AIDA...and one he never really had controll over...and i think that they are giving him power because normal players can give power to avatars.(yes they can...its called heart power.....AT said it...and we know that name sounds gay...)so maybe they are giving over theyre avatars power as well....

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:34 pm
by Azure crow
if AzureTwilight said it,I won't argue against it.
Heart power now exists to me,even if it doesn't appear in the game.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:36 pm
by haseoxth
Azure crow wrote:if AzureTwilight said it,I won't argue against it.
Heart power now exists to me,even if it doesn't appear in the game.
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its in volume three my friend....and,its a very fruity name....somebody has even quoted and attached to theier siggeh AT saying it....

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:40 pm
by TheSorrow
Yes...Heart Power...i remember his comparison about it with Umbra >.> lol
Well, they all could be giving power to him, but what i tried to explain is that he didnt get that Skeith form that way, he got it through the Xth form. And that scene of everyone giving power to Skeith happens at almost the end where everything is in hands of Haseo.
That's my theory, though. I know all my theories end up sucking and being pwned anyways...but meh...at least i thought it myself...Anyways
i always thought that the fact that skeith is the only avatar to have the power to upgrade,and its gave haseo an almost immediate mastery of it,enough to beat 2 experienced epitph users almost immediatly made it alot mare advanced then the others,plus it was designed to collect data on death,and incorparate it into the ultimate AI gave it the most feeling presence of the phases.
He can upgrade because Haseo has a character with upgrading abilities (if Kuhn was an Adept Rouge, then Magus would have at least 2 forms too....that's what i think). And Skeith wasnt designed to collect data on death or anything...that's something from those Liminality Easter Eggs and that information is false...

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:42 pm
by haseoxth
yea...and if endrance decided to change classes,then macha would look complete different...

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:47 pm
by Azure crow
agreed,but in roots they said that the key to an epitaph pc that could use skeith was an adept rouge,meaning the classes effect the pc ability to use the avatars,so each may need a certain class/user combination,and skeith is the only adept rouge one,so he is the only one able to upgrade,making him special,because only adept rouges can "evolve" there characters.
Also,skeith data drained aura in infection,so he may have a small remnant of data from here left,even though he was data drained as well.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:00 pm
by TheSorrow
Azure crow wrote:agreed,but in roots they said that the key to an epitaph pc that could use skeith was an adept rouge,meaning the classes effect the pc ability to use the avatars,so each may need a certain class/user combination,and skeith is the only adept rouge one,so he is the only one able to upgrade,making him special,because only adept rouges can "evolve" there characters.
Skeith is not an 'Adept Rogue'...He's just an Avatar, his host is the Adept Rogue. I havent watched //Roots, but i somehow think they actually believed that Skeith could be a special Avatar because of his host being an Adept Rogue.
I havent really been sure of how Avatars select their Epitaph Users, but i believe they dont actually attach themselves to a character combination (if it was that way...then Gaspard could've been The Terror of Death if he attached to the combination of a Beast Shadow Warlock). I think that, when a new member logs in The World, their minds enter inside the game and can be somehow readed by the Avatars...if they feel a connection they become candidates. And later, if they develop those connecting feelings more, they awaken their avatars and become Epitaph Users (Haseo's awakening was in that noob dungeon with Gaspard and Silabus)

I somehow feel like AT will pwn me ._.
Also,skeith data drained aura in infection,so he may have a small remnant of data from here left,even though he was data drained as well.
The attack was Data Drain, but he didnt 'drain' Aura, just divided her in 3 segments. I believe that's because Aura's data couldnt be drained like that (it could be too that she wasnt Protect Break so the DD had a different effect)

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:02 pm
by Azure crow
first,i never siad that skeith was an adept rouge,second,an epitaph pc it the character the uses the avatar.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:04 pm
by haseoxth
TheSorrow wrote:
Azure crow wrote:agreed,but in roots they said that the key to an epitaph pc that could use skeith was an adept rouge,meaning the classes effect the pc ability to use the avatars,so each may need a certain class/user combination,and skeith is the only adept rouge one,so he is the only one able to upgrade,making him special,because only adept rouges can "evolve" there characters.
Skeith is not an 'Adept Rogue'...He's just an Avatar, his host is the Adept Rogue. I havent watched //Roots, but i somehow think they actually believed that Skeith could be a special Avatar because of his host being an Adept Rogue.
I havent really been sure of how Avatars select their Epitaph Users, but i believe they dont actually attach themselves to a character combination (if it was that way...then Gaspard could've been The Terror of Death if he attached to the combination of a Beast Shadow Warlock). I think that, when a new member logs in The World, their minds enter inside the game and can be somehow readed by the Avatars...if they feel a connection they become candidates. And later, if they develop those connecting feelings more, they awaken their avatars and become Epitaph Users (Haseo's awakening was in that noob dungeon with Gaspard and Silabus)

I somehow feel like AT will pwn me ._.
Also,skeith data drained aura in infection,so he may have a small remnant of data from here left,even though he was data drained as well.
The attack was Data Drain, but he didnt 'drain' Aura, just divided her in 3 segments. I believe that's because Aura's data couldnt be drained like that (it could be too that she wasnt Protect Break so the DD had a different effect)
AT will PWN you...he pwns everybody..including gawd...and the avatars choose the person who best suits them...skeith choose haseo due to the little fact that he spreaded the terror of the death across the world...

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:08 pm
by TheSorrow
Azure crow wrote:first,i never siad that skeith was an adept rouge,second,an epitaph pc it the character the uses the avatar.
You said that only Skeith could be used by an Adept Rogue...
the key to an epitaph pc that could use skeith was an adept rouge
And if that's not what you meant, then i'd like it more if you could type better

And i never asked who an Epitaph PC was...i know that pretty much. My only doubt is how EXACTLY an Avatar choses his user, then i launched my theory (that they dont attach themselves to a 'character combination', but to a 'emotional combination')
AT will PWN you...he pwns everybody..including gawd...and the avatars choose the person who best suits them...skeith choose haseo due to the little fact that he spreaded the terror of the death across the world...
I know he'll pwn me for my Avatar-Epitaph User theory...but well, what can i do :/ lol
And, if its correct that Skeith chose him for that, then it would mean he became a candidate after he joined and his emotions were registered in the game, supporting my theory

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:09 pm
by haseoxth
AT will PWN you...he pwns everybody..including gawd...and the avatars choose the person who best suits them...skeith choose haseo due to the little fact that he spreaded the terror of the death across the world...
I know he'll pwn me for my Avatar-Epitaph User theory...but well, what can i do :/ lol
And, if its correct that Skeith chose him for that, then it would mean he became a candidate after he joined and his emotions were registered in the game, supporting my theory[/quote]

maybe...

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:09 pm
by Azure crow
i assume you've watched roots?
naobi(if that how it's spelled)says that a adept rouge is the key,whenever tan was investigating the contact between haseo and ovan

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:11 pm
by haseoxth
Azure crow wrote:i assume you've watched roots?
naobi(if that how it's spelled)says that a adept rouge is the key,whenever tan was investigating the contact between haseo and ovan
yea...maybe he meant that to save the world,the only one to save it would be an avatar that gets strong as its charactor grows....

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:15 pm
by Azure crow
bam.you cought on.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:16 pm
by haseoxth
Azure crow wrote:bam.you cought on.
O_O...emeril?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:21 pm
by TheSorrow
Azure crow wrote:i assume you've watched roots?
naobi(if that how it's spelled)says that a adept rouge is the key,whenever tan was investigating the contact between haseo and ovan
I dont know if you asked me, but i havent watched Roots

Anyways, all i need now is AuraTwilight to come and pwn by Avatar-Epitaph User theory with another one that came from somewhere only gods are allowed to know...

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:31 pm
by AuraTwilight
he didnt 'drain' Aura, just divided her in 3 segments. I believe that's because Aura's data couldnt be drained like that (it could be too that she wasnt Protect Break so the DD had a different effect)
Actually, segmenting Aura is what Skeith wanted.

Anyway, I'm not gonna pwn your theory, Sorrow. It's what I think too. What I am gonna pwn is the whole Adept Rouge ****.

Keep in mind they said that when they thought Tabby was an Epitaph User and that the Key of the Twilight was a weapon. Skeith only has shapeshifting powers because Haseo's an Adept Rogue, but being an Adept Rogue isn't required to use him. It just means Skeith won't change.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:34 pm
by haseoxth
AuraTwilight wrote:
he didnt 'drain' Aura, just divided her in 3 segments. I believe that's because Aura's data couldnt be drained like that (it could be too that she wasnt Protect Break so the DD had a different effect)
Actually, segmenting Aura is what Skeith wanted.

Anyway, I'm not gonna pwn your theory, Sorrow. It's what I think too. What I am gonna pwn is the whole Adept Rouge ****.

Keep in mind they said that when they thought Tabby was an Epitaph User and that the Key of the Twilight was a weapon. Skeith only has shapeshifting powers because Haseo's an Adept Rogue, but being an Adept Rogue isn't required to use him. It just means Skeith won't change.
thats all skeith wanted?i though he meant to drain her and remove her from the world permenatly and add he data to morganna...damn...im stupid....

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:51 pm
by lukan
oh and about 'heart power' (=P)
here's teh quote, just cuz i liked it:
Heart power, what a gay name.....Umbra's straight as an arrow compared to that :P
>_<
Toszi[/quote]

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:05 pm
by haseoxth
lukan wrote:oh and about 'heart power' (=P)
here's teh quote, just cuz i liked it:
Heart power, what a gay name.....Umbra's straight as an arrow compared to that :P
>_<
Toszi
[/quote]

that quote sure is funny...i thknk Akuta has it under his siggeh