it appeared during avatar awakening with 3rd form
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Toszi
New Skeith Possibility? *spoilers*
Final Ultima says: Haseo 1st form indeed turned into Skeith 0th Form at the end of the TGS trailer for vol.1.Kouen wrote:Yes I do mean that scene, wait they're not the same cutscene?ashlay wrote:you don't mean the end of this scene do you? 0_oKouen wrote:No, this was shortly after Endrance said he'd lend him power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH3Q9r7DAGw
And he also says that Skeith 2nd form didn't get his power from Endrance. It was from the job extend.
It would probably look like orginal Skeith. Since Haseo's 1st and 2nd forms don't have that many drastic changes just some added gold braces and that cape thing. Like wise the first Skeith avatar looks like the orginal Skeith only with some added gold spikes and that red cloak thing.ashlay wrote:actually kinda makes you wonder what proto-skeith/initial job skeith would look like, seeing as though you're already an edge punisher when you do get him.
well haseo's 2nd and 3rd forms aren't that huge of a change, if you think about it.Jimbob wrote:It would probably look like orginal Skeith. Since Haseo's 1st and 2nd forms don't have that many drastic changes just some added gold braces and that cape thing. Like wise the first Skeith avatar looks like the orginal Skeith only with some added gold spikes and that red cloak thing.ashlay wrote:actually kinda makes you wonder what proto-skeith/initial job skeith would look like, seeing as though you're already an edge punisher when you do get him.
its really only making the armor spikier.
What cape? You call that a cape, I call that a skirt. Besides the 7 swords floatng behind Skeith replaces the skirt and is a major improvement, swords floating acting like a cape is better than a skirt IMO.Jimbob wrote:Yeah but the cape thing he had was gone in form 3 and so is Skieth's. Skieth's second form isn't that big a change either. He just has a solid black and gold color scheme to match Haseo's and the cape is gone.
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HiroshiKazu
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HiroshiKazu
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"Over the Keel Mountains,Kuukai wrote:Despite being a "shadow", Cubia takes the form of the ancient monster from the Epitaph, presumably no matter what it's shadowing, simply because The World's system based on the Epitaph. That's my explanation, at least...
Meets an ape with human speech.
The ape asks,
"What clings to you?
Bear it - you cannot.
Accept it - you cannot.
But hidden - it is from you.
Recite its name."
You mean like that?
Something really interesting that I thought up from reading this again. Cubia is the shadow if that's correct. Although it was stated that Cubia was considered the anti existance of the bracelet, I don't think that it's true. In terms of canon, this was stated by Jun, but even so you have to remember that was also a basis of thought from just observation, so just because it's canon, doesnt mean that it's true. I think that the only 3 who would truly know what Cubia is would be AURA, MORGANNA, and probably Harold. Jun only led to that conclusion
Cubia shouldn't be dubed as the anti-existance, due to the fact that it would be put into the same category as the Wave. In terms of looking at the EoT, it was the twilight, the union between the light and the darkness, that had fended off the Wave, something that was the opposite of the twilight, the opposite of creation. As we know from Epitaph, the wave was a being of nothingness that was bent on only destruction. Again to say the Cubia wouldn't be considered as an anti-existance, only an opposite of the bracelet, which would mean the Cubia is technically the twilight bracelet of the dusk. If you look at it this way, before the final battle against Corbenik in the previous series, they fought and with stood the dusk. Hence"the darkness before the dawn" would be the fight against Corbenik and yada yada yada.
My theory around Cubia is that he's the source of the AIDA. (groan "here we go again") Basically there is a basis behind this. Without the twilight bracelet to keep the balance between light and darkness Cubia would run wild. Cubia was only kept in bay due to the fact that the World was reset by AURA. A new bracelet of the dawn was created so that Cubia would stay dormant. No matter what the case was, Cubia needed to exist in order to keep the world in balance against another coming of the wave. Even in Morganna was neutrilized, there's no getting over the fact that the Wave still did existed in the World. The Avatars are the perfect example of that. If the twilight bracelet was taken out of the system, because of AURA's disapperance, than the dusk would settle in and create the AIDA.
The AIDA themselves have a need to take over the epitaphs, not to gain power, but by pure instinct alone. If you think of it in this terms, the light tries to get rid of the emptiness by neutralizing it, but the darkness tries to get rid of the nothingness, by consuming it. Without the light that is the twilight bracelet to counter the darkness, the darkness would give the "shadowless one" a shadow to complete it. That's why the three Azure knights were created. It would have been these three in the EoT that had defeated the Wave. They could have been created by Aura to counter Cubia. Those three could be fragments of the recreated bracelet, and the reason why they can kill fragments of AIDA so easily is because all three are thirds of the bracelet. The three together can be enough to counter the AIDA, hence the recreation of Azure Kite. This could also explain why they are always appearing in the location as AIDAs.
They were originally hunting after Ovan who could have the most potent AIDA. The data from Ovan's PC could have been why Azure Kite targeted Haseo and Phyllo. It would be logical that AK was after anything that reselmbled his data. The 3 who were closest to Ovan were Phyllo Haseo and Shino. Since Shino had already been taken out of the world, he targeted the other 2. When Azure Kite can percieve the threats of AIDA being resolved, then he would just warp out.
The theory on how Xth form being created through AIDA possesion on Haseo is true, that could lead to the Haseo vs 3AK fight. If Haseo still has data that resembles of an AIDA the 3AK could go all mideval on Haseo's @$$
But getting back, the only thing that could probably prove/disprove this is the purpose of Eina and her creation. We don't know that yet, if she is created and the AIDA try to destroy her, then that could prove that they could be fragments of Cubia. If they try to destroy the light and darkness would set in and the AIDA would succeed in taking over the world
I'm sorry if this sounds way too much like Kingdom hearts. Then again this series came before KH...
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AuraTwilight
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Aura is the one who said Cubia was the Bracelet's Anti-Existence, along with .hack//ANALYSIS.Something really interesting that I thought up from reading this again. Cubia is the shadow if that's correct. Although it was stated that Cubia was considered the anti existance of the bracelet, I don't think that it's true. In terms of canon, this was stated by Jun, but even so you have to remember that was also a basis of thought from just observation, so just because it's canon, doesnt mean that it's true. I think that the only 3 who would truly know what Cubia is would be AURA, MORGANNA, and probably Harold. Jun only led to that conclusion
The Wave is not an Anti-Existence. The rest of what you said is just Original Research, which is a no no in trying to present a theory.Cubia shouldn't be dubed as the anti-existance, due to the fact that it would be put into the same category as the Wave. In terms of looking at the EoT, it was the twilight, the union between the light and the darkness, that had fended off the Wave, something that was the opposite of the twilight, the opposite of creation. As we know from Epitaph, the wave was a being of nothingness that was bent on only destruction. Again to say the Cubia wouldn't be considered as an anti-existance, only an opposite of the bracelet, which would mean the Cubia is technically the twilight bracelet of the dusk. If you look at it this way, before the final battle against Corbenik in the previous series, they fought and with stood the dusk. Hence"the darkness before the dawn" would be the fight against Corbenik and yada yada yada.
I agree that Cubia is the source of the AIDA, but not for the reasons you chose. Cubia doesn't need to exist. If the Bracelet doesn't exist, neither does Cubia. The Wave, after Morganna's defeat, did not remain in the World, but were scattered throughout the internet. If you take out the Bracelet, Cubia ceases to exist. You can't have a shadow without a candlelight. This is even demonstrated with the Bracelet's destruction in the final Cubia battle.My theory around Cubia is that he's the source of the AIDA. (groan "here we go again") Basically there is a basis behind this. Without the twilight bracelet to keep the balance between light and darkness Cubia would run wild. Cubia was only kept in bay due to the fact that the World was reset by AURA. A new bracelet of the dawn was created so that Cubia would stay dormant. No matter what the case was, Cubia needed to exist in order to keep the world in balance against another coming of the wave. Even in Morganna was neutrilized, there's no getting over the fact that the Wave still did existed in the World. The Avatars are the perfect example of that. If the twilight bracelet was taken out of the system, because of AURA's disapperance, than the dusk would settle in and create the AIDA.
You're just rambling at this point. the Three Azure Knights are the TSN, and was created by CC Corp to prevent Coma's. They were always appearing with the AIDA because they exist to get rid of system anomalies. The AIDA try and infect the Epitaph Users because they're the Anti-Existence to the Avatars and, I assume like XXXX Cubia, want to become free and independant. Whole.The AIDA themselves have a need to take over the epitaphs, not to gain power, but by pure instinct alone. If you think of it in this terms, the light tries to get rid of the emptiness by neutralizing it, but the darkness tries to get rid of the nothingness, by consuming it. Without the light that is the twilight bracelet to counter the darkness, the darkness would give the "shadowless one" a shadow to complete it. That's why the three Azure knights were created. It would have been these three in the EoT that had defeated the Wave. They could have been created by Aura to counter Cubia. Those three could be fragments of the recreated bracelet, and the reason why they can kill fragments of AIDA so easily is because all three are thirds of the bracelet. The three together can be enough to counter the AIDA, hence the recreation of Azure Kite. This could also explain why they are always appearing in the location as AIDAs.
Shino was taken out by Ovan and Azure Flame Kite attacked Phyllo because he mistook him for Ovan. He attacked Haseo because his character was hacked.They were originally hunting after Ovan who could have the most potent AIDA. The data from Ovan's PC could have been why Azure Kite targeted Haseo and Phyllo. It would be logical that AK was after anything that reselmbled his data. The 3 who were closest to Ovan were Phyllo Haseo and Shino. Since Shino had already been taken out of the world, he targeted the other 2. When Azure Kite can percieve the threats of AIDA being resolved, then he would just warp out.
[quote]The theory on how Xth form being created through AIDA possesion on Haseo is true, that could lead to the Haseo vs 3AK fight. If Haseo still has data that resembles of an AIDA the 3AK could go all mideval on Haseo's @$$ [/quote]
The creation of X-Form is the result of Kuhn, Endrance, and Atoli giving Haseo their power.
[quote]But getting back, the only thing that could probably prove/disprove this is the purpose of Eina and her creation. We don't know that yet, if she is created and the AIDA try to destroy her, then that could prove that they could be fragments of Cubia. If they try to destroy the light and darkness would set in and the AIDA would succeed in taking over the world [/quote]
Aina seems to be, in my opinion, Aura's Replacement.
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Musashi Kojira
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Can't be a skirt if it's the same length as his legs. :/Kouen wrote:What cape? You call that a cape, I call that a skirt. Besides the 7 swords floatng behind Skeith replaces the skirt and is a major improvement, swords floating acting like a cape is better than a skirt IMO.
Anyway, the only Skeith design that I liked was his very first form. His second form was too gaudy and his third form is just "meh". Swords, how typical.