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i'll second Kuukai's observation.

Bulletcatcher wrote:Since when did Haseo express true affection towards Alkaid? In my eyes, he used her just like he used Atoli in the beginning of Vol. 1: She reminded him of Shino. Atoli just got through to him personally more quickly. Alkaid didn't have enough time to get as close to Haseo as Atoli.

The honeysuckle scene: Haseo reminisced about when Shino said the same to him.

Her death: Haseo remembered Shino's death and didn't want to lose another "friend". That's right. "Friend."

He saw her as an ally and a friend, while she saw him as a person she could love. That explains Yowkow's theme in the Vol. 3 preview.

Atoli represents hope. Relationshipwise, she's the BlackRose of G.U., Alkaid is the person who can't have what she wants because she has some other, more significant competition.

She's a great character, don't get me wrong. I love her as a character, I just can't see a romantic relationship with Haseo happening.

Despite what you say or do, Haseo was attracted to Alkaid, there's no doubt about that.

Its more than likely that these relationships with Atoli, Shino, Endrance and Alkaid will remain open-ended, just as they did for Kite and Blackrose, Gardenia, and Terajima Ryoko.

where can i hear that song?? (Btw, thanks for the translation)

Dragoon2044 wrote:

Kuukai wrote:I for one think it's from Shino's POV, but I guess we'll see...

i'll second Kuukai's observation.

Third'd.

Kuukai wrote:I for one think it's from Shino's POV, but I guess we'll see...

that was what I was thinking as well

I'm pretty sure Haseo's "absence" is when Shino is hanging out in DataDrainville. Like Shino said, "there's no such thing as a voice that doesn't reach someone." "Get me the heck out of here" is implicitly being cried at the top of her lungs, and Haseo is hearing it...

Also, no matter who it's directed at, it's probably someone who doesn't smile a whole lot... I imagine Haseo will be smiling when he sees Shino again...

I agree now that I see it. The song does seem to be in Shino's PoV. I just wasn't paying attention to any of the other character's PoV other than Haseo's.

Yow-she's-a-hoXHaseo....thats a new one...

Hmm, I agree that it definately fits for Shino's PoV, but the Haseo's PoV does seem a possibility, depending on how the game develops. Maybe it's one of those themes that can be from multiple points-of-view.

I say the song is really open-ended, but I think it's really leaning more of Haseo's PoV towards Atoli.

Zer0 wrote:

Kuukai wrote:Gently, you were smiling
Without seeing the chains you bore,
I used you as my crutch, it must have been painful

Haseo never smiles. The only one I can think of smiling is Atoli.

Agreed. Also, it says "I used you as my crutch, it must have been painful". This could be referenced to the end of Vol.1, where Atoli finds out that she has Shino's same character type and believes that she was just used to be a reminder of Shino. And you know that's what so happened.

Zer0 wrote:

Kuukai wrote: You loved me more than anyone
And watched me more than anyone

This supports the Shino talking about Haseo theory, or the Haseo talking about Atoli theory.

Agreed, it can go either way.

Zer0 wrote:

Kuukai wrote: Forever, forever, even if we're apart
I'll be thinking of you
Because your warmth, your gentle hands,
I can never forget

Haseo definitely doesn't have Gentle Hands. Atoli does. Shino's too dark to have Gentle Hands.

Open-ended. "Gentle hands" can be a metaphor to the comfort and love the character gives to the other, etc., which all characters give at some point.

Kuukai wrote: Accustomed to your absence,
I find it hard to speak when you're around,

I think this is a Shino/Atoli reference. The first line would be in reference to the absence of Shino, and because of that, it makes it hard for him to communicate with Atoli.

Zer0 wrote:

Kuukai wrote: But even when I'm silent, all the things I say
Selfishly ask more from you

Shino isn't really "silent", she talks alot. However, Haseo isn't really open at all, and is kind of selfish when he asks Atoli to help him in the Arena.

Agreed, Shino isn't silent, just quiet. I believe "silence" is in reference to "open-ness", which would really refer to Haseo. Whether Haseo is refering to Shino or Atoli, is open-ended.

And as for that whole conversation about each character's theme in the Vol. 3 trailer, desire is definetly more powerful than love to that reference. I'm not trying to rag down you HaseoxYowKow fans, I agree I'm a little fan of them too. Agreeing with Umbra, Haseo was attracted to her, but that's all, and attraction could never be a strong thing in the first place. It could just mean he's begininng to like and care for her. Desire is a want which is obviously more powerful than attraction.