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[Maromi]

Meh, there are quite a few people in this country. You've probably met about .000001%. Honestly, there will be "stupid" people wherever you go, but not everyone has "lost their honor." I read all of your post, and I disagree with it.

I know what some of you are trying to say, but I fail to see some of these posts as more than younger kids making an overly emotional rant about a humanity they don't know much about, outside of their school and the media. Society has problems; it always will, but to think you're the one sane person out of 295,000,000 is kind of ludicrous.

[cadence]

I'm still waiting to hear why premarital sex is immoral. After that we can debate.

"Do you remember a time when women couldn't vote and certain folks weren't allowed on the golf courses? Pepperidge Farm remembers. " Sorry, that bit from Futurama popped into my head when you mentioned the morals of 100 years ago.

[Maromi]

I"Do you remember a time when women couldn't vote and certain folks weren't allowed on the golf courses? Pepperidge Farm remembers. " Sorry, that bit from Futurama popped into my head when you mentioned the morals of 100 years ago.

You've won the thread.

[Kouen]

Well it's not really recent. Human pride can do a lot of things. From finding amusement from putting down others to enjoying watching someone die. Also human misunderstanding, and need to get rid of "liars". Ex: Jesus and the jewish.

[Essence of Transcendence]

Meh, there are quite a few people in this country. You've probably met about .000001%. Honestly, there will be "stupid" people wherever you go, but not everyone has "lost their honor." I read all of your post, and I disagree with it.

I know what some of you are trying to say, but I fail to see some of these posts as more than younger kids making an overly emotional rant about a humanity they don't know much about, outside of their school and the media. Society has problems; it always will, but to think you're the one sane person out of 295,000,000 is kind of ludicrous.

But you have no idea what I am like or what I have seen or done. You are just making an assumption about it so I think that before you call anyone a "younger kid," you should get to know them and find out for yourself and see if they have had enough experiences to know what is "outside of their school and the media." Don't just assume that everyone on a forum like this is young and naive to what is happening in the world. And no, I do not think that I am the "one sane person out of 295,000,000." I know that I am as crazy and insane as possible but does that mean I cannot have my opinion about things? Just to put it simply you have no idea who I am and what I have seen so don't judge me as a "kid" just because of that post. See, now you are making a big deal when you have no idea about me. See, you just made my point. "People Don't Think." They just jump to conclusions.

<EDIT: Translated into English.>

[Akuta]

Meh, there are quite a few people in this country. You've probably met about .000001%. Honestly, there will be "stupid" people wherever you go, but not everyone has "lost their honor." I read all of your post, and I disagree with it.

I know what some of you are trying to say, but I fail to see some of these posts as more than younger kids making an overly emotional rant about a humanity they don't know much about, outside of their school and the media. Society has problems; it always will, but to think you're the one sane person out of 295,000,000 is kind of ludicrous.

a but you have no idea of what i am like or what i have seen or done you are just making a assumption about it so i think that before you call any one a "younger kid" you should get to know them and find out for your self and see if they have had enough expiernces to know what is"outside of their school and the media" dont jsut assume that every one on a forum like this is young and nieve to what is happening in the world and no i do not think that i am the " one sane person out of 295,000,000" i know that i am as crazy and insain as possible but that does not mean that i can have ma opinion about thing just to put it simply you have no idea who i am and what i have seen so dont judge me as a "kid" just beacuse of that post see now you are making a big deal when you have not idea about me see you just made my point. "People Don't Think" they jsut jump to conclusions

you have no basis for judging me so don't

My guess on his basis would be a combination of writing abilities and arguments. Especially arguments.
If you claim everyone you have ever met to "be a dumbass", then Maromi's assumption would be reasonable.

And no, you're greedy and selfish. Everyone is to some degree. It's human nature to care about oneself. It's easy to look down upon the world and judge it, but don't expect to be right. People usually aren't (i've done that before myself, something i realized later on was a mistake of me)


Oh and i couldn't help but notice your wonderfully contradicting statement in that you claim that everyone you've met, also stating that you have supposedly seen more people than the average person(using different phrasing), is an idiot, yet you claim that you aren't saying most people aren't idiots in your latest post. Pick one.

I"Do you remember a time when women couldn't vote and certain folks weren't allowed on the golf courses? Pepperidge Farm remembers. " Sorry, that bit from Futurama popped into my head when you mentioned the morals of 100 years ago.

You've won the thread.

Indeed.

Edit: Good job on finally managing to translate your last post for us. Didn't really change anything though. You don't seem to understand what Maromi is basing his assumption off.

[marthwmaster]

People tend to get defensive when they read stuff like

humans are too obsesed with material items and of what other people think about them. they are greedy aand have not self control. i can safely say that i am not like this (and if i was i would shoot myself) people are jsut so stupied.

Maybe if you were to offer up some examples of things you have seen that justify your claim of being somehow superior to the rest of the human race, your argument would have validity, but as of now you are doing little more than attacking Maromi for criticizing your high-and-mighty view of the world.

[Maromi]

You're right; I'm making assumptions based on the garbled post you made, insulting pretty much everyone, while sort of putting a hinder on your own credibility. When referring to "younger kids," though, I was mostly referring to Takumi's and Balian's posts, since Takumi is young, and Balian probably is. Blah blah blah, I have no idea about you, blah blah blah. I don't need to know you to know that you don't know more than 80% of this population (it's probably more of something like 98%). The thing is, your posts made you seem naive. That's not my fault. I think you're ranting, not making a balanced judgment. You also claim that people are materialistic, yet you're here using a computer and, I'm assuming, uh oh, you own video game consoles, since this is a .hack forum. You then claim you're not like this, but to an extent, aren't you? Aren't we all?

How are you somehow above everyone else?

[Suyo]

This world deserves its inevitable demise =_=

Earth Sucks

(not EVERYONE, but overall....stupid humans)

[Essence of Transcendence]

People tend to get defensive when they read stuff like

humans are too obsesed with material items and of what other people think about them. they are greedy aand have not self control. i can safely say that i am not like this (and if i was i would shoot myself) people are jsut so stupied.

Maybe if you were to offer up some examples of things you have seen that justify your claim of being somehow superior to the rest of the human race, your argument would have validity, but as of now you are doing little more than attacking Maromi for criticizing your high-and-mighty view of the world.

sorry if my posts are garbled it is hard to articulate my thoughts into something that people would understand (i am not trying to insult you with that part) and think of some good examples with all the posts and things people want me to hit on.

ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?

to respond to Maromi's post i never said that i was any better or worse then the people i was taking about and i know that i am "high-and-mighty" or "superior" than everyone else i know that i have a game consol and i have a computer but they were all gifts the computer was a graduation gift and the consol was a birthday present but besides that i have very few possestions besides thoes. i can say that every creature is greedy to a point but i can safely say that i do not seek out material items and if i get one ok that is nice but i am not always out serching for material items. i really have nothing that i want right now and to say something about Akuta's point about caring about one's self i can say that i dont i don't care if i live or die if i am a millionare or so poor i cant even feed my self i have very little material wants and i dont care about what happens to me. some would call that apithetic or physocotic and think that i need counsling or somethink of that nature but i feel content with my life as it is all i am saying is that right now i have nothing that could make me more content with my self. the reason that i think tha people are so stupied is that they think that their ideas and view are right (and i am not saying that mine are i could be totaly off on this) but to try and force these beliefs on people is a futile goal no matter what any one says i wont and cant change my views on life. people just act wildly and thinking about the others around them and here is an example how many of you have been in a movie and someones cellphone rings and they pick it up and start talking on it? i know that this is one example of one person and it would not be fair to judge the entire human race on it but is there any time that any of you have done something like that or just never thought or cared about how your actions affect others? have you ever done something that was so rude that it was pathetic? i know that no one here is a perfect angel (me included) but still how smart and honorable and just and fair do you think humans are i don want to hear about you or your opinion about me i want to hear your opinion about the rest of the world

[ilona~POW]

I tend to ignore it if the effect doesn't directly, well, effect me. But when others start to bring that sort of cheap upbringing into my atmosphere, I just put them back in thier place. No-one is higher or mightier than anyone else in my opinion, unless of course you've got terrible morals and a horendous attitude problem, your fault or not. Yeah it might seem harsh or egotistical, but who wants some 12 year old saying "Hey, hey you, hah, you ***** queer, me and my friends can kick your ass! I pissed on your mom last night"? Those types of people, whether they are 12 or 30, need to be confronted when they are introduced into you space, don't ya think? Other than that, I ignore it, I was brought up right, and unless I can directly change the situation,and its in front of me, I'm fine ignoring it.

[Akuta]

ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?

That's extremely irrelevant. A wish list isn't a "give me this" list. It's an "this is what i would like to have" list.

As for the rest of your post, i'll try to translate it for my brain later. Too tired right now.
To the first two lines though, i can say that you are saying you're better than everyone else. I'm pretty sure i saw a "i'm not like that" somewhere in the big chunk.

Anyways, i'll get back to ya later.

[ilona~POW]

ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?

That's extremely irrelevant. A wish list isn't a "give me this" list. It's an "this is what i would like to have" list.

As for the rest of your post, i'll try to translate it for my brain later. Too tired right now.
To the first two lines though, i can say that you are saying you're better than everyone else. I'm pretty sure i saw a "i'm not like that" somewhere in the big chunk.

Anyways, i'll get back to ya later.

Ok, ok, lawlz. Akuta gets 1 proffessional point haha.

[Abunagaru]

akuta yes i am saying that intersourse before marriage is bad, sex is supposed to be a sacred act between a husband and a wife..... we've butchered it in a way

So, if you don't think you have to sign some paper to show love to someone, and you're not religious so you don't want to make any "promises" towards some god, you have to be a virgin your whole life?

I get that you think that people are having sex to often, to soon, with to many, by the wrong reasons. I agree, but to say that sex have to involve marriage just sound so wrong and silly to me.

[ilona~POW]

akuta yes i am saying that intersourse before marriage is bad, sex is supposed to be a sacred act between a husband and a wife..... we've butchered it in a way

So, if you don't think you have to sign some paper to show love to someone, and you're not religious so you don't want to make any "promises" towards some god, you have to be a virgin your whole life?

I get that you think that people are having sex to often, to soon, with to many, by the wrong reasons. I agree, but to say that sex have to involve marriage just sound so wrong and silly to me.

I agree, I feel that, while we do need to draw the line when it comes to ages, partners, etc. somwhere, I don't think that bringing religion or beleifs into the matter accomplishes this anymore than us talking about it right now does. There needs to be more awarness more than anything, sex has become a fad to todays youth and THAT is why it's gotten out of hand, not because of marriage and so forth. If you must bring marraige into it, people of religion or of the beleif of abstinance before marriage are getting married more often for the reason TOO have sex. I found it silly how many of my friends were totally sex illiterate, STILL thinking that because the guy says its safe to have sex without a condom if he pulls out, it is. The simple fact of the matter is that the youth needs to be more informed, and parents need to try for more control and understanding about the matter with thier children, and if 2 people of consenting age truely feel that they love each other, then by all means hop in bed and make with the woopy.

Props to Abunagaru, you are an hero *hug* heehee.

[Akuta]

akuta yes i am saying that intersourse before marriage is bad, sex is supposed to be a sacred act between a husband and a wife..... we've butchered it in a way

So, if you don't think you have to sign some paper to show love to someone, and you're not religious so you don't want to make any "promises" towards some god, you have to be a virgin your whole life?

I get that you think that people are having sex to often, to soon, with to many, by the wrong reasons. I agree, but to say that sex have to involve marriage just sound so wrong and silly to me.

I agree, I feel that, while we do need to draw the line when it comes to ages, partners, etc. somwhere, I don't think that bringing religion or beleifs into the matter accomplishes this anymore than us talking about it right now does. There needs to be more awarness more than anything, sex has become a fad to todays youth and THAT is why it's gotten out of hand, not because of marriage and so forth. If you must bring marraige into it, people of religion or of the beleif of abstinance before marriage are getting married more often for the reason TOO have sex. I found it silly how many of my friends were totally sex illiterate, STILL thinking that because the guy says its safe to have sex without a condom if he pulls out, it is. The simple fact of the matter is that the youth needs to be more informed, and parents need to try for more control and understanding about the matter with thier children, and if 2 people of consenting age truely feel that they love each other, then by all means hop in bed and make with the woopy.

Props to Abunagaru, you are an hero *hug* heehee.

That's exactly my thoughts about it. What both of you said.

Ok, ok, lawlz. Akuta gets 1 proffessional point haha.

Indeed :D

[ilona~POW]

Ok, for actually quoting ALL that, you get another haha.

[Akuta]

I quoted all that because you had both said the things i agree with ;P

[ilona~POW]

I quoted all that because you had both said the things i agree with ;P

I'm gladd I joined this BBS, this community has better morals than my high school. There were mouthy grade 9's and even 7's from the middle, "smack talking" teachers and even the Grad years. How nicely they were raised and/or think that's cool. Even now in college, there are eletists and such.

[Umbra]

You shouldn't worry about morals if you disagree with them, the fact that you do tells you that not everyone thinks in such a way.

It's when you don't find anything wrong with at least someone's morals that you should worry, as there will inevitably be people that play society's role as the 'delinquent'.

For the argument of material possessions I will say that all humans have material possessions, it is now impossible to live life without them, as you'd be arrested when found without any clothes. My opinion on the matter is that you should treat material possessions as a privilege rather than a right, and enjoy them.

As for premarital sex, It'd be rather hypocritical for me to say its wrong, but in all honesty, I don't believe that. I was born to unmarried parents and so were my two brothers, and my parents only got married a few years ago. My own belief if that sex is sacred, unfortunately I've never had the chance to 'give myself' to someone in such a manner, but I don't believe you have to wait until after marriage to have sex with someone.