Atoli? Shino?

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:50 am

I believe by that time, she had become disillusioned to what Ovan's true plan's were, since she and him were a pretty close pair.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:15 pm

i think her love for the World
may have been based on her trust for Ovan
and wen Ovan started lying to her
hiding things from her
she lost everything

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:19 pm

Precisely it, in my opinion (now this relates back to my other theory) Though he knows he betrayed her, he still want's to use her in his grand scheme of the phases. What if Kite of the Azure Flame and Ovan are allies, not just subject to master, but allies in the same cause? As I've said before I believe that Ovan wishes to bring a revolution to World:R2, for what reason? Bring about peace, to become all powerful? I have no idea, as I've said, it's but a theory.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:26 pm

So then the Epitaphs description
of the second coming of the Wave
would be a Wave started by players
to wipe clean what CC Corp. damaged
CCC tried to erase the old World
hide all the tragedies
destroy the mysteries
but those mysteries were wat made The World the way it was
so by them burning it
it lost it's heart
it lost all the things that made it back
ur saying
Ovan wants to bring back the old world
and he's willing to recreate the Worlds "Final Mystery"
to do it

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:34 pm

It seems that way, if it was CCC that caused the fire, he seems to have played The World before R:2, by a few of his lines in Roots. Ovan is called The Rebirth. in my opinion the only other being to hold that power in control was no less then the Old God of the world herself. Now don't misunderstand me, I'm no saying Morganna, I'm saying he may wish to become a god himself.

tsukasa5021 · Post by **tsukasa5021** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:00 pm

Wow, this is why I love this place. Ask a simple question, get two pages worth of answers. Thanks, everyone!

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:14 pm

You know, the fact that the phases are controlled by the good guys now kind of defeats the whole concept of them being "The cursed wave" since they do good things now.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:27 pm

but they don't exactly do good things
how is Tarvos attacking Skeith
a good thing?

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:28 am

That may be an infected AIDA, causing the phases to fight against eachother. It's not something set in the plans of either Tri-Edge or Ovan, at least, that's my belief.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:17 am

Likewise, I think they may be infected by an AIDA or otherwise unable to control themselves.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:43 pm

Y'know, I doubt something like a Phase would be easy to control. Y'know. Either THAT, or Tarvos, being the AVENGER, took Pai and intentionally made her experience as an Epitaph Weilder as horrible as possible to AVENGE The World that the administrators keep tampering with.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:07 pm

You say that as if the phases are actually interested in a silly videogame.

Actually, you say that as if the phases actually have opinions of their own.

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:23 pm

If the phases do have personalities, I would love to see them talk, and express their opinions! This also goes back to my opinion of Skeith, seemingly a loyal dog, but still had to be issued orders by Morganna, then again now that the phases are of God's leash, maybe they can start doing what they want?

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:35 pm

the Phases don't see
The World
as a silly video game
the World is their world
it's where they exist
it's where they reside
it's where they live
it is truth to them
our world to us
is The World to them
i think
they'd hav 2 b concerned
about protecting their home

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:23 pm

The wellbeing of The World is of no concern to any of those AI's. They were not programmed that way.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:24 pm

Their A.I.'s
programming stops
the only code they run on
is the ability to learn
after that
it's up to them to decide
what they care about

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:26 pm

Uh, no. After that, the data they have is extracted, after that, their reason to exist ends.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:28 pm

ur going off the programming of the old Phases
they weren't A.I.'s
they were programs
the AIDA's
aren't programs
their A.I.'s

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:32 pm

Hmm? Which AI's? The phases? There is no proof to this, in the past the destruction of the phases caused widespread destruction and data corruption, though that was only their destructions, that did this though. As well according to the Liminality extra's the phases caused gate corruption, which forced the place to= need to be gate hacked, true? I have no idea. though it is seen normally that the AI's care much about their world, as it is THEIR world. The shadowless ones, or the "sprites" which are AI's in the world grieved when the wave crashed into their homes and caused wide spread corruption and destruction. The "Cursed Wave" was the phases under Morganna's control. Now that they have broken free from the God's leash, they are free to do as they wish, but all in all, they are feelings of Aura, so inevitably, they must return to Aura.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:37 pm

But... There's nothing wrong with their world is there? It's operating as normal. I don't understand why something would produce TriEdge to randomly kill people. And don't say he's not random, it's been hinted at that he had many victims before Shino and others.