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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:13 pm
by kire12
so if those are his knees, where are they in the pic wit haseo being dd
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:42 pm
by sirk

I think.. that it really IS "neo Skeith"... being formed anyway...
Lookie here at a screen from the TGS trailer:
Now look:

You can even see his blade-knees.
So kire, you were pretty much right when you guessed they were "neo Skeith"'s legs. .
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:48 pm
by kire12
yeah, cause wen the haseo in the armor and stuff gets dd'd, then haseo becomes skeith.
so is evil kite's dd really data drain, or like a data input.
and the admin is gonna be like
o thats on a another topic.
so we got proof that its not a data drain.
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:59 pm
by sirk
But there's no proof that Tri-Edge's DD is followed immediately by Haseo's transformation. Therefore, we don't know that Tri-Edge's DD was what caused it.
It seems to me that Haseo's "transformation" is at a completely different time than when he gets hit by Tri-Edge. Or am I overlooking something else again? x_x
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:06 pm
by AuraTwilight
It's entirely possible that the scene we're talking about is surreal and symbolic. >_>
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:06 pm
by Grey
sirk wrote:But there's no proof that Tri-Edge's DD is followed immediately by Haseo's transformation. Therefore, we don't know that Tri-Edge's DD was what caused it.
It seems to me that Haseo's "transformation" is at a completely different time than when he gets hit by Tri-Edge. Or am I overlooking something else again? x_x
My theory is that actually, once he was DDed, he was actually put into a choma, this being the intro movie. Then, when you start the game, you play as newb Haseo, playing out the events leading up to meeting the characters, clans, whatever, until finally the final battle between Tri-edge and Haseo where you basically see the intro all over, afterwards finding out Haseo was in a coma. So, if I'm correct, you are correct.
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:11 pm
by kire12
if you look at the old trailer, you see the haseo with the armor being dd'd rite? well he falls to his knees, get covered in yellow things, and then those things fall off. and we see the haseo we know. you can tell, becuase the armor on his stomach is off. ass soon as he screams, he looks at himself, stands up, and screams. then, we see the formation of skeith out of haseo's old armour. thats what it looks like to me at least
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:15 pm
by kire12
My theory is that actually, once he was DDed, he was actually put into a choma, this being the intro movie. Then, when you start the game, you play as newb Haseo, playing out the events leading up to meeting the characters, clans, whatever, until finally the final battle between Tri-edge and Haseo where you basically see the intro all over, afterwards finding out Haseo was in a coma. So, if I'm correct, you are correct.
you may be correct, because if what i jus posted is rite, then we are fo sho rite. but wait, if triedges "dd" adds skeith to haseo, then why does haseo change into his "newb" form? maybe tri's dd takes away, and then he, or somone else (ovan possibly, because he is standing over the "newb form of haseo when he says welcome to the world) inputs neoskeiths data into haseo
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:15 am
by Kuukai
Interesting that they're seen next to each other like that. I wonder if the next installment of G.U.+ will come out before the games. That would help shed some light on the chronology of the "transformation" (maybe)
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:25 am
by AuraTwilight
There's no guarantee that being Data Drained puts you in a coma. I didn't see Haseo get Protect Broken, did you?
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:51 am
by Umbra
AuraTwilight wrote:There's no guarantee that being Data Drained puts you in a coma. I didn't see Haseo get Protect Broken, did you?
Have you ever seen a Protect Break anywhere but in-game?
Seriously, that was only put into the game to make it harder, its never been used anywhere else.
I say Haseo was protected in some way, possibly by Skeith.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:01 am
by kire12
oo so u mean that when he had his armor on, he already had skeiths data in him? and when haseo gets dd'd, skeith is being broken apart, not created. so skeith really sacrifices his own "life" to protect haseo, and then turns into that thing that we said was his knee.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:10 am
by Umbra
In a way...
I believe that Haseo did somehow obtain Skeith's data. It may act as a symbiote, giving Haseo power in exchange for something, possibly protection.
My other theory is that Tri-Edge needed Haseo's data to completely 'repair' Skeith but Haseo screaming "I am here Skeith" makes me think he knows who Skeith is.
Because Haseo possesses Skeith's data, it acted as a Shield, in the same way the note 'A' in C-Major Scale protected Mai Minase from Skeith's Data-Drain. Instead of being put into a coma, the Data-Drain separated Skeith from Haseo and gave it Haseo's power to complete it. Leaving Haseo conscious, but at Level 1, while Skeith has been resurrected.
That is, of course, assuming the Skeith scene is connected to the Tri-Edge scene.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:15 am
by kire12
yeah, thats basically what i was getting at. so haseo and skeith are now seperated, but skeith is now compleat with haseo's data that made him a powerfull pkk
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:55 am
by Umbra
Yes, that's my theory...
But its a possibility, not fact...we'll just have to wait and see.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:19 pm
by Grey
Is it possible that Haseo played The World, and Skeith put like an updated version of itself as an application/virus on Haseo's computer that was opened/activated upon him switching to R:2? And that scene could actually be Skeith being opened/activated, being born into R:2...or something.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:59 pm
by kire12
that would work with the skeith being put togehter
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:17 pm
by Dot-Hack-Rocks
Grey wrote:Is it possible that Haseo played The World, and Skeith put like an updated version of itself as an application/virus on Haseo's computer that was opened/activated upon him switching to R:2? And that scene could actually be Skeith being opened/activated, being born into R:2...or something.
i disagree because would Tri-Edge come out and data drain him, but then he turns out to be Neo Skeith? doesnt make sense. I think Tri-edge put the Virus Core into Haseo's data because he could've rewritten his data into skeiths. But the question is, What happens to Haseo?
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:32 pm
by kire12
well we all agree that the armored haseo turns into the haseo with the leather straps. so maybe, and im tryin to figure out a way to go on urs, in order to fit in all of skieth's data was to data drain haseo, and put him into his simplest form, which would drain his defence, attack, and every other stat.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:03 pm
by Dot-Hack-Rocks
kire12 wrote:well we all agree that the armored haseo turns into the haseo with the leather straps. so maybe, and im tryin to figure out a way to go on urs, in order to fit in all of skieth's data was to data drain haseo, and put him into his simplest form, which would drain his defence, attack, and every other stat.
i don't agree at all.