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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:32 pm
by AuraTwilight
The AI Tsukasa is an exact copy of Tsukasa when he was first trapped in the World, the closest to a complete clone Morganna ever made before bring Tsukasa through Liminality into the World, so we know that from the first episode, he was level five. As for the Monster gaining EXP, come ON, now. WTF would a bunch of ordinary players know about the inner workings of Tsukasa's Guardian? They probably just assumed, because if he wasn't gaining EXP, what would be the point? The Guardian was to protect Tsukasa from physical harm and to give Tsukasa the illusion of being powerful.
I agree he would have leveled up in a group, since he doesn't have to actually get hurt to gain EXP in a party, but he only fought in a party like....two, three times? Also remember that Tsukasa broke EVERY OTHER rule in the game, so the SP limit isn't a factor.
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:07 am
by Sunaminot
I woukd think at least lvl 30 because MiMiRu first saw him in a lvl 35 Dungeon (I think).
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:00 pm
by AuraTwilight
Just because he's in a level 35 dungeon doesn't mean he has to be that level. Also, just to clarify, it was a level 15 dungeon, tops, as it was on Mac Anu server.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:19 pm
by ~ L a d y S u b a r u ~
I agree, I'm sure that the Tsukasa in Union is the real Tsukasa.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:07 pm
by UMMX
milliennium_fox wrote:The Tsukasa in the games is an A.I. and the one in Unison is indeed the real Tsukasa.
You know that you guy are stupid right The game takes place in Unison when Tsukasa show up in the game at the end of the 4th disk and helba asks you talk to him to see if it was the real Tsukasa. That the reason why Tsukasa didnt say anythink about in the anime also if you would as the right question in the game it he tales you what she did after she left the world..
The end of the game takes place in Unison it was change alittle bit. Even in the game at the end Helba say that the old hackers want to meant the new ones you should check it out more before posting stuff other user say..
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:26 pm
by milliennium_fox
Actually, that very e-mail you mention is the one that PROVES Tsukasa is an A.I.
Kite asks if the A.I. Tsukasa is even a player. Helba says that they (Tsukasa and the other two members you obtain) may be wandering A.I.s.
There is the evidence.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:52 pm
by UMMX
that doesnt prove anything she SAID MAYBE!!! and beside If you talked to him in the game and got all 6 reponces you would know that he was the Real thing...
Also to let you after you save Mia in the game that when then all have reunion at and talk in the anime... SO like i said He was the Real Thing. Also to let you know hs weapon in the game was at level 89 so that mean He had to be in the 80-99 level to use it...
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:24 am
by laysh
Um to let you know that there is no lv restrictions to weapons or armor because I equiped stuff that was higher then me alot of the times.
Here this should help to know that Tsukasa in disc 4 isn't him. Helba's email Subject: RE: Maybe…
>The Tsukasa in “The World” right now isn’t the Tsukasa that
logged out…? Is he even a player?
Keen insight.
The current Tsukasa, Subaru and Sora may be wandering AI’s
created by the player’s memory in a trashed character data.
But like I said… It is your job to find out the truth.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:43 am
by AuraTwilight
The sheer fact that Helba even suggested it and you had to prompt it implies that they're AI's. And hey buddy! They left out a sidequest in the North American version that totally blows your argument out of the water! In the Japanese version, there's three extra dungeons where you free the three AI's just like you do with Mia. XD Pwned
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:50 pm
by laysh
Dose the american version have the key words to those dungeons? Im woundering what happeneds if you go.
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:07 am
by Tsukasa_W.M
no one really knows. He could be lvl:50 but he was weak because he could feel. But..... If he was that lvl why would he need a guardian?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:40 am
by AuraTwilight
Because there's still people level 50-99 to deal with, and even if he's fighting a low level monster and it hurts him, he can feel pain.
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:08 am
by LadySubaru
I'm thinking around the 10-15 area. Like 12. Sure, he'd need a lot of sp, but maybe he just got some items in the game to increase his sp without his lvl going up much. Besides, considering how little fighting he actually does in the anime, he probably hasn't trained much.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:42 am
by kite27
AionRahm wrote:If its about the game, this is the wrong place.
If the anime, then he is something around lvl 40-50.
this may not be the right place but if the series and the games interlap because of unison then if you meet tsukasa in the games at level 5 then would he have to be level 5 in the series???

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:25 am
by Sephiroth0812
Well, the series and the games doesn´t really "interlap". At the time of Unison the series as well as the games are over. Unison takes place a few weeks after Quarantine (part 4) and shows how the entire twilight incident is solved...
BtW:
The Tsukasa in the games is not the real Tsukasa, it´s an A.I. like Mia.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:38 pm
by 50R4
13v31 `1
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:16 pm
by AuraTwilight
^ spam?
Anyway, people are saying that Tsukasa was really high level because of his SP and stuff. Bullcrap! We have to remember and consider that Tsukasa is afraid of fighting, even before he realized he could feel pain, which probably meant he didn't fight much before he got stuck in the game. That should tell us that he's a really low level, and any significant progress he makes could've only been with Bear and Mimiru. He's only been in, what, four fights in the whole series? At the very least he's level 15, which is his level when you get him in the games. Problem solved.
Wait, what about his godly stats in the show? Oh wait, He also had a Guardian and teleporting powers too. Point null.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:51 pm
by 50R4
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:05 pm
by AuraTwilight
In the games, he's level 15. Subaru is level 5, and I forgot what Sora was. I think it was either level 40, or level 90.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:50 pm
by saiato
Well if you're judging his level by how he fights you should probobly keep in mind that he never wants to fight because he can feel pain. A hit that might not even take away much of his HP hurts him, and because of this he wants to stop fighting instead of just keep on going. Fear of death and all, ya know?