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|<!73 · Post by **|<!73** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:16 am

The next update is ready. It's Kite. (Saya?)

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:14 am

How I missed that pelvic thrust. He looks like a one of those cute little ninja toys you get in a quarter machine or something. He'd make the perfect action figure.

Post by **Kuukai** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:17 am

This one I could take or leave, it's not really as nice as either the original or the final version...

Keyaki · Post by **Keyaki** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:13 am

|<!73 wrote:The next update is ready. It's Kite. (Saya?)

The only thing I like about Link thus far.

Advent_Winter · Post by **Advent_Winter** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:55 pm

I'm so drawing this...

GyppyGirl2021 · Post by **GyppyGirl2021** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:56 pm

Kuukai wrote:This one I could take or leave, it's not really as nice as either the original or the final version...

It's still Kite.

*glomps picture, then realizes it's just a picture and nurses papercuts*

|<!73 · Post by **|<!73** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:48 am

A segment from Staff Works. Here's an NCP. (I seem to remember a conversation about this)

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:10 am

The picture's kinda a bulletin that there will be squirrel-type beast people in this game. (the post also mentions there will be dog-types) That one is nicknamed "Risuko" (risu = squirrel) among the developers. They really like the minor PCs, and hope players do too. There's also talk about the different "flavor" of Link, and how making Tokio so different was deliberate. They'd already done the "hero," Kite, and the "badass," Haseo, so they wanted to make the third protagonist something closer to home, not some faraway hero from a faraway world, which is why they made him a student who really likes games, someone that in their words the player can feel affinity towards. The underlying mission of Link is to make an "All-of-.hack" game, but at the same time they're striving to make something new that even completely new players can really enjoy. That's the gist of the email. Also that they bump heads (maybe on whether or not to have squirrel people?) but everything works out in the end...

Between this and BlazBlue it seems like squirrel girls are coming into fashion...

Gemcrim · Post by **Gemcrim** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:20 am

A bit off topic possibly, but is it me or is every NPC you encounter in the Link demo a beast? Maybe I'm just not noticing human PCs but I do find this odd.

GyppyGirl2021 · Post by **GyppyGirl2021** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:59 pm

So wait, they're trying to make Tokio more sympathetic? I don't know what anyone else has to say, but at least Kite and Haseo had a reason for getting tied up in the crap they did... Tokio's just a wannabe gamer who wants to be the best at everything. Smells like Mary Sue to me...

Advent_Winter · Post by **Advent_Winter** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:21 pm

GyppyGirl2021 wrote:So wait, they're trying to make Tokio more sympathetic? I don't know what anyone else has to say, but at least Kite and Haseo had a reason for getting tied up in the crap they did... Tokio's just a wannabe gamer who wants to be the best at everything. Smells like Mary Sue to me...

But look on the other side of this. Kite and Haseo, (Aside from Sora), never had any intention on playing "The World", let alone a personal reason. They were both invited by their friends to try it. Unfortunately, they just happened to join in at the wrong time. They didn't sign up to become heroes, neither did they like it either. Basically, they were forced to play the role in order to save the ones they cared about.

Tokio on the other hand, dreamed of becoming a hero, but he never had a chance. After hearing the stories about Kite, Haseo, and others from the shop keeper, it just excited him even more. Now, Tokio has that chance to live that dream.

GyppyGirl2021 · Post by **GyppyGirl2021** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:34 pm

The fact that Tokio is essentially a self-insert trying to be the player just turns me off. As characters, Kite, Haseo and pretty much everyone else in the .hack series was sympathetic in one way or another. Tokio looks like he's trying too hard.

hidora · Post by **hidora** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:02 pm

Advent_Winter wrote:But look on the other side of this. Kite and Haseo, (Aside from Sora), never had any intention on playing "The World", let alone a personal reason. They were both invited by their friends to try it. Unfortunately, they just happened to join in at the wrong time. They didn't sign up to become heroes, neither did they like it either. Basically, they were forced to play the role in order to save the ones they cared about.

And that's what IMO made them good characters. Tokio is just dumb =/

iuliathe3rd · Post by **iuliathe3rd** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:24 pm

We don't even know what kind of character development Tokio might get yet, people. Hold off on the criticisms until the game is actually out. It's fine to have first impressions, but it's long since become annoying.

Kuukai wrote:They really like the minor PCs, and hope players do too.

Oh, I know several members on the boards who can confirm that the players do indeed like the minor PCs, myself included.

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:05 pm

Advent_Winter wrote:Tokio on the other hand, dreamed of becoming a hero, but he never had a chance. After hearing the stories about Kite, Haseo, and others from the shop keeper, it just excited him even more. Now, Tokio has that chance to live that dream.

Also he plays Tekken. I think most of us can relate to that. I guess Kite played soccer, but Haseo was a total recluse with a rich dad...

Keyaki · Post by **Keyaki** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:11 pm

Haseo was a total recluse with a rich dad...

...I wouldn't say he was...."rich". His dad just owned a major company and he went to a famous private school. And he lived alone.

I wouldn't say he was "rich"

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:28 pm

For poor people like me, that is rich. Though I'm not the one who originally said that.

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:08 pm

Keyaki wrote:
Haseo was a total recluse with a rich dad...
...I wouldn't say he was...."rich". His dad just owned a major company and he went to a famous private school. And he lived alone.

I wouldn't say he was "rich"

You're being sarcastic or something, right? o_o

Keyaki · Post by **Keyaki** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:17 pm

Kuukai wrote:
Keyaki wrote:
Haseo was a total recluse with a rich dad...
...I wouldn't say he was...."rich". His dad just owned a major company and he went to a famous private school. And he lived alone.

I wouldn't say he was "rich"
You're being sarcastic or something, right? o_o

Okay, Okay...maybe he was rich. Just didn't show it

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:44 pm

Oh, I know several members on the boards who can confirm that the players do indeed like the minor PCs, myself included.

:D

And i'm beginning to understand Tokio and why he's like that a little more....but still, i don't agree. .Hack never had the need for "heroes" like that...in fact, i'd say it was awesome because characters didn't behave the way he does, and if they did, it was actually something minor when put in comparison to the rest of the plot.

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