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Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:30 pm
by Samael
GaoGaiGar
Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann
Big O
Eureka 7
Cowboy Bebop
I don't watch much anime compared to the amount of manga I read, but those are definitely the most notable animes I've watched.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:47 pm
by Super Robot
Yuusha Oh GaoGaiGar (You don't get much better than this. You just dont.)
Dragon Ball Z (Got to put it up. Not because its good. But because its THE anime. You can't top it, you can't stop it, you can't escape it.)
Mobile Suit Gundam (The Original. A perfect little space drama with memorable story and characters.)
Martial Successor Nadesico (Aliens invading because they love 1970s super robots. Hell yeah.)
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:07 pm
by Kuukai
Super Robot wrote:Dragon Ball Z (Got to put it up. Not because its good. But because its THE anime. You can't top it, you can't stop it, you can't escape it.)
It was when Hironobu Kageyama sang the theme song, but now it's nothing! NOTHING!
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:21 pm
by Super Robot
Kuukai wrote:Super Robot wrote:Dragon Ball Z (Got to put it up. Not because its good. But because its THE anime. You can't top it, you can't stop it, you can't escape it.)
It was when Hironobu Kageyama sang the theme song, but now it's nothing! NOTHING!
But see, that's Dragon Ball
Z.
Dragon Ball Z is everything, all that once was and all that will be.
Dragon Ball Z can see into your mind.
Dragon Ball Z can see into your
soul.
Now this Dragon Ball
Kai crap.
Its just the retarded cousin of Dragon Ball Z.
Its Nothing.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:35 pm
by Erranty
Super Robot wrote:Kuukai wrote:Super Robot wrote:Dragon Ball Z (Got to put it up. Not because its good. But because its THE anime. You can't top it, you can't stop it, you can't escape it.)
It was when Hironobu Kageyama sang the theme song, but now it's nothing! NOTHING!
But see, that's Dragon Ball
Z.
Dragon Ball Z is everything, all that once was and all that will be.
Dragon Ball Z can see into your mind.
Dragon Ball Z can see into your
soul.
Now this Dragon Ball
Kai crap.
Its just the retarded cousin of Dragon Ball Z.
Its Nothing.
DBZ was only good till the end of the Freiza saga, because somehow they stopped being able to blow up a planet after they actually DID blow one up.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:12 pm
by Akasu
BLACK F*CKING LAGOON!!!

Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:36 pm
by Samael
I fail to see the appeal. I just see a bunch of armed fetishes.
I figure I'll go into detail on mine.
Eureka 7: I suppose calling it an 'ultimate anime' is pushing it. It's nothing spectacular, it's nothing revolutionary. However, it is a notable mecha anime for it's style. It is blatantly Eva-inspired in terms of robot design. It focuses heavily on relationships. Those between characters(notably the main characters Renton and Eureka, but the various side characters relationships get significant focus), those between groups, those between science and religion and ultimately between man and nature. It is a very artistic piece and has a heavy 60s/70s style to it, with key terms including stuff such as The Next Summer Of Love(hardly spoilers, the term is raised in the first episode).
Also, it has robots that fly by surfing on light.
Big O: It's really hard to describe this since I haven't seen it in years, but it still stands in my mind. The style always stood out in my mind, as does the gradual methodic plot. I need to re-watch it. If ya can get ya head round it, it's a real interesting piece of work. And like E7, it stands out from other super robot anime for it's sheer style.
GaoGaiGar: Now we get to this one. This is one I can argue as an 'ultimate anime', for the simple fact it is a massive **** YOU to Evangelion. (I will say now, I have watched one episode of Evangelion, I don't plan to watch any more, since it didn't appeal to me. I hold no real negative opinions of it, what I do know of it has led me to respect it as an impressive deconstruction of super robot anime, but it's just not my sorta show.) Back to GGG. It was a reconstruction of everything Evangelion carefully deconstructed. It did everything a super robot anime is 'supposed' to do. The villains were dramatic, the heroes were courageous, the robots were awesome and the attacks ridiculously over the top and usually accompanied at some point with a dramatic speech. Hell one of the robots' actual powers was to give everyone a Theme Music Power Up. And they had a giant ninja police robot. A GIANT NINJA POLICE ROBOT.
And of course, it had Taiga, quite possibly one of the most manly characters in Japanese anime ever. He used a (perfectly ordinary) golf club to fight off mind-controlled minions and CALLED THE ****ING ATTACK. 'STEEL HEAD DRIVER'(or something. I forget exactly, I'm not a golfer.
Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann and Cowboy Bebop have already been mentioned, so I will just add the following
God bless the Gainax bounce and corgis.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:39 pm
by Kuukai
Erranty wrote:DBZ was only good till the end of the Freiza saga, because somehow they stopped being able to blow up a planet after they actually DID blow one up.
There was no longer a reason to do so when the guy would still be there. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
I honestly think that Cell (because he's Norio Wakamoto) and Fat Buu (because he's a gigantic fat man made out of bubblegum who wears a cape and boxing gloves) were the best villains in the series, but lots of people disagree I guess... Frieza's certainly the only one with a Maximum the Hormone song...
Dude I have that clearfile...
Samael wrote:I fail to see the appeal. I just see a bunch of armed fetishes.
Whoa, slow down, I'm not following, you're all over the place. Those two statements seem to be the exact opposite of each other...
Samael wrote:GaoGaiGar: Now we get to this one. This is one I can argue as an 'ultimate anime', for the simple fact it is a massive **** YOU to Evangelion. (I will say now, I have watched one episode of Evangelion, I don't plan to watch any more, since it didn't appeal to me. I hold no real negative opinions of it, what I do know of it has led me to respect it as an impressive deconstruction of super robot anime, but it's just not my sorta show.) Back to GGG. It was a reconstruction of everything Evangelion carefully deconstructed. It did everything a super robot anime is 'supposed' to do. The villains were dramatic, the heroes were courageous, the robots were awesome and the attacks ridiculously over the top and usually accompanied at some point with a dramatic speech. Hell one of the robots' actual powers was to give everyone a Theme Music Power Up. And they had a giant ninja police robot. A GIANT NINJA POLICE ROBOT.
And of course, it had Taiga, quite possibly one of the most manly characters in Japanese anime ever. He used a (perfectly ordinary) golf club to fight off mind-controlled minions and CALLED THE ****ING ATTACK. 'STEEL HEAD DRIVER'(or something. I forget exactly, I'm not a golfer.
Despite what Wikipedia would have us believe, I don't think GaoGaiGar is best viewed as a reaction to Eva. It's not like Go Nagai et al stopped drawing, and of all things
Nadesico, a show extolling the virtues of even bad Super Robot shows, appeared in the season immediately following Eva. GaoGaiGar was a phenomenal show, though, and it got the formula just right. I don't think its popularity or greatness owes anything to Eva.
That said, I still stand behind Gunbuster, even GaoGaiGar bears some similarities to it, like gears and locking mechanisms connecting to symphonic Kouhei Tanaka soundtrack. Gee, I wonder what the first show was that realized he'd be great for robots?
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:47 pm
by Samael
I still need to watch Gunbuster, and the start was a comment on Black Lagoon. You've got a maid, a business woman and some others all of whom are armed.
I fail to see the appeal. But that's because that's all I know of it.
And yeah, GGG is great regardless.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:54 pm
by Kuukai
Samael wrote:You've got a maid, a business woman and some others all of whom are armed.
And I was half-facetiously saying I don't understand the difference between that and being appealing.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:47 pm
by _Tri-edge_
Kuukai wrote:I honestly think that Cell (because he's Norio Wakamoto) and Fat Buu (because he's a gigantic fat man made out of bubblegum who wears a cape and boxing gloves) were the best villains in the series, but lots of people disagree I guess... Frieza's certainly the only one with a Maximum the Hormone song...
I don't see why people would disagree. Wasn't Majin Buu, in kid form, the only villan in the series that actually succeeded in blowing up Earth?
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:57 pm
by Ratsu
Kuukai wrote:Erranty wrote:DBZ was only good till the end of the Freiza saga, because somehow they stopped being able to blow up a planet after they actually DID blow one up.
There was no longer a reason to do so when the guy would still be there. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
I honestly think that Cell (because he's Norio Wakamoto) and Fat Buu (because he's a gigantic fat man made out of bubblegum who wears a cape and boxing gloves) were the best villains in the series, but lots of people disagree I guess... Frieza's certainly the only one with a Maximum the Hormone song...
I always loved Buu the most, he seemed like the most understandable villain. I mean all he wanted was fun and candy, and whats funnier then when Piccolo tried to trap him in that time chamber and said "There is no candy" ... Buu went nuts "NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!" XD But yea he was all around the most understandable Villain. I mean Cell I didn't like because he was all "I want to fight people ;D"
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:41 pm
by Kuukai
Ratsu wrote:I mean all he wanted was fun and candy
Is there any greater motive?
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:43 pm
by Samael
Buu was the best villain, but unfortunately he came in after just about everything else had gone down hill(WAY back just after the end of the Frieza saga).
Admittedly though, I have to admit the interaction between him, Mr Satan/Hercule and the puppy who's name evades me was probably the highlight of DBZ for me. If only because Mr. Satan saved the world...just about till some pricks with guns ruined it.
Some goes for that Great Saiyaman and Gohan's school days stuff. As hilariously camp as Saiyaman was.
They were something different in the series which till now mostly consisted of...well it's been said enough times by now. Reminded me of Dragonball, which wasn't all just huge fights and tournaments and training, sometimes it was just good ol' fashioned wacky hijinks. There was usually a fight in there somewhere, but nothing major.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:38 pm
by zerokoolpsx
It's so hard to just narrow it down even to just a couple. There are so many that I haven't seen, so this list may change.
Code Geass/Rurouni Kenshin
Neon Genesis Evangelion/Darker Than Black
Kara no Kyōkai
Ghost in the Shell 1&2(The Movie)
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:37 am
by nobodyknows
NK presents the top 5, in his opinion >>'..
1: NGE
2: ZOE: Idolo 2817 (date?)
3: Tower of Druaga, Aegis of Uruk
4: Marchen Awakens Romance
5: Fooly Cooly
they might seem odd but.. these are by far the best that I've seen
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:45 am
by -Loveless-
/looks away/
I have a very big collect of anime that I've seen. I guess the ones I say is the best is everything I own. Which makes absolutely no sense.
Sailor Moon
xxxHOLiC
Love Hina
Tsuabsa: RC
Fruits Basket
I guess the best one is Rurouni Kenshin. Never get tired of it. Oh, that and Gravitation.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:28 am
by Ruby
I don't know if it's the ULTIMATE anime, but I'd say a really, really good series is Shamanic Princess. It has nice animation and art, a mood-fitting soundtrack, and a storyline that doesn't spell everything out for you. It's short, but interesting and entertaining.
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:59 am
by Sha
I guess The Ultimate Anime that controversial enough and making personality problem are definitly ;
-- Neon Genesis Evangelion,
The First Anime that's Events in the series refer to Judeo-Christian symbols from the book of Genesis and Biblical apocrypha among others.
It's strange that 'Evangelion' has become such a hit, all the characters are display various emotional problems and mental illnesses and Hideaki Anno, the director of the anime series, suffered from clinical depression prior to creating the series
But, Without this anime... I probably wouldnt ended up like this .. Hehe,
Re: Ultimate Anime
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:37 pm
by Kuukai
Sha wrote:The First Anime that's Events in the series refer to Judeo-Christian symbols from the book of Genesis and Biblical apocrypha among others.
The first? Dude, you're forgetting about
Superbook!