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Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:37 pm
by Kazekun
As people have already pointed out they're for resistor cables. BUT a good storyteller (or a sneaky master of disguise) could always sneak that in and make it not JUST stand for resistor cables. Good stories have hidden foreshadowing, and are good at sneaking things in without anyone noticing (hidden foreshadowing). I'm not saying this does stand for more than just resistor cables, but there's also the chance that R1, and R2 were also hidden foreshadowing that are references to The World (original version) and The World R:2.

Ya never know, it's possible. But wether that's the case, I cannot say.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:42 am
by AuraTwilight
I highly doubt it, as the GU series wasn't even IMAGINED by the time of .hack//Sign.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:56 am
by Admilu
FallenDragon wrote:The reason why Tsukasa-Elk and Bear-Orca look the same is because of the PC model they chose, it's the same with Mimiru-Blackrose, Shino-Atoli, etc...coincidence? I think they are just pointing out that it is a MMORPG and that usually happens.
Oh, I see. My bad.

Would that be the same thing as Aura-Licorice? I noticed they both have an 'Infanite' symbol on them and after what you've said I thought that it could be a similar thing to how the characters are similar. Do you know anything about that?

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:04 am
by Kazekun
AuraTwilight wrote:I highly doubt it, as the GU series wasn't even IMAGINED by the time of .hack//Sign.
It's still an amazing coincidence. :wink:

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:23 am
by TheSorrow
Admilu wrote:Would that be the same thing as Aura-Licorice? I noticed they both have an 'Infanite' symbol on them and after what you've said I thought that it could be a similar thing to how the characters are similar. Do you know anything about that?
Her name is Lycoris.
She was a prototype for Aura, supposed to be the Ultimate AI but instead became a vangrant AI (way more developed and advanced than the rest). It's very different from just sharing character model, since both Lycoris and Aura aren't PCs at all and don't follow any base in specific (if any, Aura had a base on Lycoris but the looks are very different). The infinite symbol is because both were destined to be the Ultimate AI.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:34 am
by Admilu
TheSorrow wrote:
Admilu wrote:Would that be the same thing as Aura-Licorice? I noticed they both have an 'Infanite' symbol on them and after what you've said I thought that it could be a similar thing to how the characters are similar. Do you know anything about that?
Her name is Lycoris.
She was a prototype for Aura, supposed to be the Ultimate AI but instead became a vangrant AI (way more developed and advanced than the rest). It's very different from just sharing character model, since both Lycoris and Aura aren't PCs at all and don't follow any base in specific (if any, Aura had a base on Lycoris but the looks are very different). The infinite symbol is because both were destined to be the Ultimate AI.
Sorry for spelling her name wrong.

Well that all makes sense and I suppose that ties into the sleeping girl that Tsukasa meets right?

But I don't remember all that stuff about Lycorice and Aura in any of the series I've read/watched/played ( :shock: Dot hack truely is a huge series huh?). Not that I don't believe you it's just I would like to know where you get your information from.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:56 am
by FallenDragon
That's because Lycoris is from the AI Buster novels, as far as I remember that character doesn't appear in any other place. And you can find this info on the dothack wiki.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:11 pm
by Admilu
FallenDragon wrote:That's because Lycoris is from the AI Buster novels, as far as I remember that character doesn't appear in any other place. And you can find this info on the dothack wiki.
Sorry, I spelled her name wrong again -_-"

Yeah I know she's only in one series just wonderin' where the info came from.

Dothack wiki huh? You mean type in dothack on wikipedia???

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:27 pm
by FallenDragon
...I blame this on myself for not giving a link.

http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

There you go.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:02 pm
by AuraTwilight
TheSorrow wrote:
Admilu wrote:Would that be the same thing as Aura-Licorice? I noticed they both have an 'Infanite' symbol on them and after what you've said I thought that it could be a similar thing to how the characters are similar. Do you know anything about that?
Her name is Lycoris.
She was a prototype for Aura, supposed to be the Ultimate AI but instead became a vangrant AI (way more developed and advanced than the rest). It's very different from just sharing character model, since both Lycoris and Aura aren't PCs at all and don't follow any base in specific (if any, Aura had a base on Lycoris but the looks are very different). The infinite symbol is because both were destined to be the Ultimate AI.
No, she wasn't. Harald himself said that Lycoris never had the capability of becoming Aura. She was no different from any other Vagrant AI except that she wanted to be the Ultimate, so that her God, Harald, would love her special. She wanted to be whole and complete, the very defining characteristic of the Ultimate AI. When she found out she could never be Aura in any shape or form, she decided to kill herself instead of letting Morganna do it.
Well that all makes sense and I suppose that ties into the sleeping girl that Tsukasa meets right?
The sleeping girl and Aura are the same person.
That's because Lycoris is from the AI Buster novels, as far as I remember that character doesn't appear in any other place.
She makes a cameo in the Legend of the Twilight manga, don't forget.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:35 pm
by Admilu
I've seen/read/played most of the series and yet you guys know so much more than me :shock: I guess you all really do your research huh?
FallenDragon wrote:...I blame this on myself for not giving a link.

http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

There you go.
You're not very forgiving are you? I checked out the link you left and it seems to have correct information but it's just like wikipedia (thus the 'wiki' right?) and so anyone can change what's written as long as a few people agree with em.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:46 pm
by TheSorrow
Admilu wrote:I've seen/read/played most of the series and yet you guys know so much more than me :shock: I guess you all really do your research huh?
FallenDragon wrote:...I blame this on myself for not giving a link.

http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

There you go.
You're not very forgiving are you? I checked out the link you left and it seems to have correct information but it's just like wikipedia (thus the 'wiki' right?) and so anyone can change what's written as long as a few people agree with em.
Don't worry, you're not the only one who feels like that. By the time i joined to this forum i had thought i understood everything regarding the IMOQ games. Yet all my beliefs were shattered when i found about the novels, manga, and other sources of information that reveal alot more stuff. That caused me to become more interested though, and yet even if i've read alot of stuff and become more updated with all the information i still forget a few things and remain unsure about others 'XD

And not really, the .hack wiki is supervised and updated by various people who really know about the series, such like AuraTwilight (who i consider the f*cking God in this forum, and seriously knows ALOT about the .Hack series). So it's not like anyone can just go and edit that, let's say, Mimiru and BlackRose are sisters, without having to give alot of proof before (such like citations, sources, scans maybe) and such information being checked more than once by the people on there.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:00 pm
by Admilu
TheSorrow wrote:
Admilu wrote:I've seen/read/played most of the series and yet you guys know so much more than me :shock: I guess you all really do your research huh?
FallenDragon wrote:...I blame this on myself for not giving a link.

http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Wiki

There you go.
You're not very forgiving are you? I checked out the link you left and it seems to have correct information but it's just like wikipedia (thus the 'wiki' right?) and so anyone can change what's written as long as a few people agree with em.
Don't worry, you're not the only one who feels like that. By the time i joined to this forum i had thought i understood everything regarding the IMOQ games. Yet all my beliefs were shattered when i found about the novels, manga, and other sources of information that reveal alot more stuff. That caused me to become more interested though, and yet even if i've read alot of stuff and become more updated with all the information i still forget a few things and remain unsure about others 'XD

And not really, the .hack wiki is supervised and updated by various people who really know about the series, such like AuraTwilight (who i consider the f*cking God in this forum, and seriously knows ALOT about the .Hack series). So it's not like anyone can just go and edit that, let's say, Mimiru and BlackRose are sisters, without having to give alot of proof before (such like citations, sources, scans maybe) and such information being checked more than once by the people on there.
Yeah, I get what you're saying but all I mean is that it's possible for it to be not 100% true all of the time cause if someone edits it, then until that edited part is checked by... your "god", isn't it possible for someone to read it and then have false information? I know this situation is fairly unlikely though.

Or do you mean that edited work has to be checked before the page it self is updated?

Sorry about causing such an inconvenience and getting this post off course *bows head" ^^

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:17 pm
by TheSorrow
Yeah, I get what you're saying but all I mean is that it's possible for it to be not 100% true all of the time cause if someone edits it, then until that edited part is checked by... your "god", isn't it possible for someone to read it and then have false information? I know this situation is fairly unlikely though.

Or do you mean that edited work has to be checked before the page it self is updated?
Yeah, that's possible to happen, and there are too other times when there happen mistranslations or misdirections by the lack of sources and proof, yet the information gets updated anyhow (for example, calling "Saika Amagi" as "Ayaka Amagi"). There will always be mistakes, especially with new media, and it'll also be updated as far as such media allows us to know (if CC2 hadn't released official media stating that most Liminality easter eggs were non-canon, most likely we'd still believe Skeith was supposed to gather data about human fear of death), but the mistakes will always be kept at the lowest possible, and if there are any doubts or unclear stuff, that's why places like forums exist to debate about it and see what's actually true and what not.

Not because an article can be edited by anyone it actually means someone will actually modify an article completely with lies and it'll stay for long or everyone will actually believe what the article said at that moment is true. I'm not sure, but i think the .hack wiki is actually made so someone has to check the information changed before the page is updated, which makes it even less likely to contain false stuff.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:51 pm
by Admilu
:) You sure aren't a .hack//aficionado for no reason huh? You really know your stuff and are very good at explaining things.

Thanks alot for clearing that up and explaining, in understandable detail, to me.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:14 am
by AuraTwilight
AuraTwilight (who i consider the f*cking God of the universe, and seriously knows ALOT about everything ever. Also, s/he's really funny and sexy and I would do shim over and over until my groin was red raw).
Fixed for accuracy. Don't worry, we all make typos.
Not because an article can be edited by anyone it actually means someone will actually modify an article completely with lies and it'll stay for long or everyone will actually believe what the article said at that moment is true. I'm not sure, but i think the .hack wiki is actually made so someone has to check the information changed before the page is updated, which makes it even less likely to contain false stuff.
Updates are put up automatically, so we do have to go back before someone can mess it up more, but there is ALWAYS someone on monitoring the thing, between me, Kulaguy, Kuukai, Shinsou Wotan, CRTwenty, Ellimist, and a few other guys. Don't worry, false information never gets far.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:17 am
by Kazekun
AuraTwilight wrote:Updates are put up automatically, so we do have to go back before someone can mess it up more, but there is ALWAYS someone on monitoring the thing, between me, Kulaguy, Kuukai, Shinsou Wotan, CRTwenty, Ellimist, and a few other guys. Don't worry, false information never gets far.
Then you might aswell look through my edit in the .hack//LINK page, see if I missed anything. hehe

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:43 pm
by AuraTwilight
I did that before you even posted, so my point is proven.

Also, word from the wise, don't make such BIG edits until you can f*cking spell or use grammar, it's only a big crapfest that the rest of us have to clean up, so have some courtesy, there's a standard of literacy that has to be maintained. This goes to ALL of you.

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:27 pm
by Kazekun
AuraTwilight wrote:I did that before you even posted, so my point is proven.

Also, word from the wise, don't make such BIG edits until you can f*cking spell or use grammar, it's only a big crapfest that the rest of us have to clean up, so have some courtesy, there's a standard of literacy that has to be maintained. This goes to ALL of you.
I can spell, and use perfect grammar. Just when I type, I tend to get typos, it pisses me off. I try not to typo so much, and make sure everything is correct before I submit. If they're was any, I apologize, I must've missed them. (YES, I have heard of Miscrosoft Word, I have it, but my computer was messing up at the time)

Re: Coincidence?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:15 pm
by AuraTwilight
Kazekun wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:I did that before you even posted, so my point is proven.

Also, word from the wise, don't make such BIG edits until you can f*cking spell or use grammar, it's only a big crapfest that the rest of us have to clean up, so have some courtesy, there's a standard of literacy that has to be maintained. This goes to ALL of you.
I can spell, and use perfect grammar. Just when I type, I tend to get typos, it pisses me off. I try not to typo so much, and make sure everything is correct before I submit. If they're was any, I apologize, I must've missed them. (YES, I have heard of Miscrosoft Word, I have it, but my computer was messing up at the time)
Then proofread yourself. I hate cleaning up other people's messes.