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shio wrote: if he starts to lose he would use his avatar.

He wouldn't do that post-Reminisce.

shio wrote:yes but also remember that even though kite had to bracelet, he defeated most of his enemies without it and only used it on the data bugs and when it was available to use on the epitaphs and things of the like.

I have no Idea what you are talking about since kite had to use the bracelet a lot on normal monsters for virus cores. most of the bosses he fought were data bugs. but he only used it on 7 phases were haseo had to use it on all 8 so that would be the small difference

well that was only an objective in the game to data drain monsters for virus cores. we dont know if that would be the case if it wasnt game style cuz in the novels that that women wrote from blackroses perspective the only virus cores you hear about are the ones given to him. getting them from normal monsters was just a game objective to add a challenge. and he never used the bracelet on normal people like haseo did when he first fought bordeax in the arena

yes, you are right. However, you should consider the fact that in the beginning Haseo was imprudent and immature but after Reminiscence, he showed that he can resist against the temptation of using it. Whats more, the point is: he has got strong enough in the end of the trilogy to fight against all that ones whom he used the avatar.

shio wrote: and he never used the bracelet on normal people like haseo did when he first fought bordeax in the arena

again what are you talking about? haseo never used DD on brodeax.

Haseo is more powerfull

Sol wrote:It's very hard for me to decide who is more powerful between Kite and Haseo, mainly because the challenges they faced were greatly different. Kite had to unlock the mystery of The World while Haseo had to try and comprehend the mystery of other people, both daunting tasks. In terms of power it's also very hard to compare them considering they came from two different versions of The World with two very different battle systems. Ultimately, I would say Kite is the more capable person, as he was actively discovering the truth as opposed to Haseo who was mostly lead by Ovan.

this is true but haseo may have been lead around by ovan but at the same time he was finding out how to save the world like kite was.

Kite: data drain!
haseo: ZOMG im LVL 1!! =O
Kite: Pha Ani Zot
Haseo: AHHH *dies*

or

Haseo: SKKKKEEEEEIIIITHHH
Kite: uh oh..

twinbladePker wrote:Kite: data drain!
haseo: ZOMG im LVL 1!! =O
Kite: Pha Ani Zot
Haseo: AHHH *dies*

or

Haseo: SKKKKEEEEEIIIITHHH
Kite: uh oh..

That woul;d never happen. Kite is a the type of person who would never ever i mean never use DD ona a person. And if it was a Twin Blade vs Twin Blade, Kite would win becuase Adept Rouges are weaker than their originall user.. And if Haseo were to use Skeith, what would stop kite form beating it again?

Jakal Of Twilight wrote:

twinbladePker wrote:Kite: data drain!
haseo: ZOMG im LVL 1!! =O
Kite: Pha Ani Zot
Haseo: AHHH *dies*

or

Haseo: SKKKKEEEEEIIIITHHH
Kite: uh oh..

That woul;d never happen. Kite is a the type of person who would never ever i mean never use DD ona a person. And if it was a Twin Blade vs Twin Blade, Kite would win becuase Adept Rouges are weaker than their originall user.. And if Haseo were to use Skeith, what would stop kite form beating it again?

the fact that kite could not see skeith as kite is not a avatar user. if both were at there maxed level then there would be a 50 level difference between them.

Well Kite is level 100 and Haseo is level 150.
I wonder.....

I would have to go with Kite by far, and for those that say since Haseo destroyed Cubia, remember je also had the power of the other 7 Avatars as well and the strength wasn't just his own. But overall like someone mentioned earlier Kite is a more capable person than Haseo.

[quote="Maglo87"]I would have to go with Kite by far, and for those that say since Haseo destroyed Cubia, remember je also had the power of the other 7 Avatars as well and the strength wasn't just his own. But overall like someone mentioned earlier Kite is a more capable person than Haseo.

Kite is moe responsible but he relley dosent have any qulities to make him an epitaph user
making Haseo more capable.

If the two were on equal footing, I'd like to say Kite.

I would say Haseo and Kite are pretty much equal, the only indication of who would have one would be Haseo against Azure Kite and if  Aura hadn't stopped the fight in volume 3 (though you had taken away all of Kite's HP -_-) I suppose Haseo would have won anyway.

The real question on my mind is if  Haseo (Sora) had a rematch with Crim based on fighting skills alone without the dual guns. who would win there?

Demon_Skeith wrote:

shio wrote: and he never used the bracelet on normal people like haseo did when he first fought bordeax in the arena

again what are you talking about? haseo never used DD on brodeax.

didnt say he used data drain, but he summoned up his avatar in the first arena battle to knock them out and win

I still say that's irrelevant, you can't say "Oh he's just gonna use his Avatar", cos you know he's not like that anymore.

shio wrote:

Demon_Skeith wrote:

shio wrote: and he never used the bracelet on normal people like haseo did when he first fought bordeax in the arena

again what are you talking about? haseo never used DD on brodeax.

didnt say he used data drain, but he summoned up his avatar in the first arena battle to knock them out and win

like haseo did thats saying that he did use DD on bordeax

Well, if its about normal player battle, Haseo will pwns Kite with his adept rogue ability (weapon change), but if its about their illegal power battle, i have to go with Kite due to his Drain Heart and he defeats Skeith once.