"Special."

[Rengeki]

Hmmm, well it seems I'm still confused as to what you're exactly referring to. Though I am past the part where Haseo is granted power by Endrance, I have still yet to beat the game itself. So if you could go into detail as to why exactly his job extensions would lead to skeith's physical change, I'd appreciate it. Keep in mind any spoilers though as we are still on the vol.1 boards. Heh.

But as my knowledge stands as of now, my main question is why didn't Skeith change when Haseo first got his job extension? This is mainly what I would like answered. Though, there's obviously no need to rush. If it's something I'll find out at the end of the game then there's no worries. But I wont be able to play over the weekend so it'll still be awhile before I see the ending. So an answer to this question would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and by some radical chance that the answer somehow lies in a spoiler revealing something from vol.3 then don't bother. I still a oblivious to anything major that happens in the last chapter.

think of it this way.

Skeith is a template.
Haseo is the customization of that plate.
When Haseo changes,Skeioth morphes to reflect what he looks like.
Here are some examples:

True first skeith/haseo twin blade form: would,in theopry,be bare,and look close to the original skeith,but he awakened after this chance to see was past,so.....

"First" form skeith/Haseo Brandish form:You can see that skeith matches Haseo's butt cape,as well as the plate on haseos upper back(look juts behind Skeiths head.He also had a arm cuff pattern that seems the same.

Second form Skith/Flicker Haseo:Skeith matches the spiky design,as well as gets a sythe upgrade to match Haseos new use og the sythe.
He also gets plated in armour,like Haseo.


 Fourth form Skeith/Duel gunner Haseo:Skeith moves away from the sythe weapon,and gets better long range abilities.Skeiths colour pattern changes with Haseo,to white with some black.


Skeith always looks similar to Haseo,as do all the epitpah users and avatars to each other.
Thus,the job extention,which changes Haseo's looks,give Skeith a new look as well.

Yes, it coincides with avatars being linked to the player, as demonstrated as "the higher the player level, the stronger the avatar".

[Zaizeku]

The special thing about Haseo is that he is specially the hero of the game thus having special preferences for the people that are special becuz specially people like special protagonist like the special Haseo who has the special avatar Skeith who everyones knows is special. Thats my special explanation I hope specially everyone understandood its speciality

specially yours Zaizeku

[Suyo]

The special thing about Haseo is that he is specially the hero of the game thus having special preferences for the people that are special becuz specially people like special protagonist like the special Haseo who has the special avatar Skeith who everyones knows is special. Thats my special explanation I hope specially everyone understandood its speciality

specially yours Zaizeku

You know, that -could- make sense, but you seem to have lacked the effort.

Anyway, They could have put someone like Pi as the main character. She'd be special cuz she has inside knowlegde (yata, CC Corp)

[Zaizeku]

The special thing about Haseo is that he is specially the hero of the game thus having special preferences for the people that are special becuz specially people like special protagonist like the special Haseo who has the special avatar Skeith who everyones knows is special. Thats my special explanation I hope specially everyone understandood its speciality

specially yours Zaizeku

You know, that -could- make sense, but you seem to have lacked the effort.

Anyway, They could have put someone like Pi as the main character. She'd be special cuz she has inside knowlegde (yata, CC Corp)

Yeah I know, I just wanted to see how may times i could say special in one post

[Kiba]

You know maybe haseo isn't that special I mean he was chosen because
of a certain reason.
( I don't know how to prevent spoilers with a blac line so i wont.)

[Marioshinobi]

Alright, also we need to consider one fact.

Skeith is the weakest Avatar around because of one reason;

NO PROTECT

Notice how every avatar simply justs DD's you? Skeith has no PROTECTION, just a HP bar.

So, in balance...it can evolve and change XD

It's a cheap way of thinking but it's true.

[Azure crow]

Alright, also we need to consider one fact.

Skeith is the weakest Avatar around because of one reason;

NO PROTECT

Notice how every avatar simply justs DD's you? Skeith has no PROTECTION, just a HP bar.

So, in balance...it can evolve and change XD

It's a cheap way of thinking but it's true.

We've already explained the "evolution",which really isn't a proper word for it.
That's not an ability,it's just that Skeith reflects Haseo class bio,which is to get stronger as he gets extentions.

And he does have protect status.
Data drain does damage to anything it hasn't protect broken.
It was the same IMOQ,against the phases.
It's just that the gameplay mechanics make Haseo black out when his protect stauts is broken.
Skeith isn't weaker than any other,or else how do you explain it being able to beat the others with relative ease?

When Skeith and Magus were fighting,with Skeith acting on pure emotion,Skeith won easily.
Nothing weak about Skeith.

[StrikerSixx]

why were u callin it his brandish form? Haseo in no way is a blade brandier his second for is Edge Punisher

[Azure crow]

why were u callin it his brandish form? Haseo in no way is a blade brandier his second for is Edge Punisher

In the japanese version it's called Brandish,and I like that name more than Edge Punsisher.

[Azure crow]

Althougb level does affect them,it's the strength of the bond between the user and the epitpah that gives them most strenth.
Haseo usually fights either users with good connections,or who have a simulated connection via AIDA.
This is why Haseo and Skeith are a strong duo,due to the connection they had long before G.U..
I believe the term this board has adopted for this is "Heart Power"

Sorry,I know it's not like me to use smilies,but I just had to.

[Zaizeku]

Yeah heart power becuz he wants to save Shino so bad he becomes powerfull becuz of it, I bet all of you have noticed that he doesnt give up even though Tri-Edge whoop him reall good the first time

[Azure crow]

Althougb level does affect them,it's the strength of the bond between the user and the epitpah that gives them most strenth.
Haseo usually fights either users with good connections,or who have a simulated connection via AIDA.
This is why Haseo and Skeith are a strong duo,due to the connection they had long before G.U..
I believe the term this board has adopted for this is "Heart Power"

Sorry,I know it's not like me to use smilies,but I just had to.

omgzwtfbbqsaus?! Smiley! Ban!

There's nothing wrong with using a smiley. They were put on the site to be used by everyone who wanted to use them. Not using them would be the wrong thing to do.

Heart Power? I thought this was .hack, not Kingdom Hearts.

That term has existed even before my time.
It's a termt hat was created to give literary meaning to the strengh one feels for the actions they are doing,and what they beleive in.
It's just a fanmade term,I beleive Auratwilight made it,that is on the same line as Data Blade,a word I created, and other such words.
They arn't used very much though.

[Zaizeku]

Althougb level does affect them,it's the strength of the bond between the user and the epitpah that gives them most strenth.
Haseo usually fights either users with good connections,or who have a simulated connection via AIDA.
This is why Haseo and Skeith are a strong duo,due to the connection they had long before G.U..
I believe the term this board has adopted for this is "Heart Power"

Sorry,I know it's not like me to use smilies,but I just had to.

omgzwtfbbqsaus?! Smiley! Ban!

There's nothing wrong with using a smiley. They were put on the site to be used by everyone who wanted to use them. Not using them would be the wrong thing to do.

Heart Power? I thought this was .hack, not Kingdom Hearts.

That term has existed even before my time.
It's a termt hat was created to give literary meaning to the strengh one feels for the actions they are doing,and what they beleive in.
It's just a fanmade term,I beleive Auratwilight made it,that is on the same line as Data Blade,a word I created, and other such words.
They arn't used very much though.

When u say Data Blade what do you mean?

[Azure crow]

Data Blade is a name for the kind of data the "supernatural" aspects of the World are built out of,or anything that can cause a coma.
Such as neams from Data Drains,Avatars,Aura herself(although that may not apply) may parts of the Blackbox system,and about anything else that is out of the control of anyone in The World apart from choosen people and Aura,as well as whatever villains are out there.
Except AIDA,which does not fall into that catagory.

[Marioshinobi]

The whole Skeith factor is weird itself, how it suddenly comes back from getting defeated is somewhat of a plot hole for me, he just slumps back down and then back up with full health again.

Reality: Okay it makes sense, continue and retry. World is good.

Game Reality: Why do you have to beat up all the other's down to 0 to just DD them, while you on the other hand can get DD'd around 3 times in battle and can come back from getting beaten by simply raising your head.

I can understand that the game is being fair, but for actual world itself; it's stupid.

Skeith has no Protect Break, thats why he gets DD'd several times..

While on the other hand, they all have protect. But if you beat them down then one DD kills them...

Myself: That makes so little sense...-1 affection for the game.

[AlphaBlades]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Obviously, the same thing has come into G.U. I mean, I guess you could make an arguement that Skieth has no Protect. And it does look like he's physically trying to resist being DD'd while the other avatars just take it in the pooper.

So while at first, it would make sense that he has no Protect Break it seems to leave a lot of 'what if's ' if you know what I mean.

But all in all, it's like a few other people have already said. It's simple game mechanics.. >.> The designers thought it'd be cool to have your ass get DD'd 10 times a fight. That's about it. Some things just can't be explained away, I guess. =p

[Rengeki]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

Obviously, the same thing has come into G.U. I mean, I guess you could make an arguement that Skieth has no Protect. And it does look like he's physically trying to resist being DD'd while the other avatars just take it in the pooper.

So while at first, it would make sense that he has no Protect Break it seems to leave a lot of 'what if's ' if you know what I mean.

But all in all, it's like a few other people have already said. It's simple game mechanics.. >.> The designers thought it'd be cool to have your ass get DD'd 10 times a fight. That's about it. Some things just can't be explained away, I guess. =p

Of course. What would an avatar vs avatar battle be without you being DD'ed?
And we usually assume Skeith is protect broken whenever he loses all his hp.

[Azure crow]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

[Rengeki]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

[Azure crow]

Well, this kind of bleeds into IMOQ, as well. The Epitaphs would DD your party members but you didn't fall into a coma. People have tried to explain this away as well (The leading theory being that the braclet saves them from being put into a coma or somethin)

Nah, it was because no one in your party was protect broken when they were DD'ed.

quote]

Actually,this is commonly referred to as "the grace of the braclet" and it means that anyone in a party with the one using the braclet can't be protect broken,and can only fall comatose from complete death.
Read //Another Birth,it's great at explaining it when Blackrose gets data drain fighting Skeith,and she freaks out for a second.

Ah, whoops...forgot all about Another Birth...
Is the 4th one out yet?

If it is then I'd be searching.
As far as I know,the english vol 4 isn't out.
If it is I want to know,as I enjoy those books very much.