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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:31 pm
by TsukasaElkKite
Azure crow wrote:I'd figured this out before I even played the game,but at least we have confirmation now.

*Pulls out flaming shovel after months of hibernation without use,lits fire and gets marshmellows*

So,who wants one to celebrate?
I do! I do! :D

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:32 pm
by Azure crow
hehe..everytime I bring the shovel and marshmellows out,everyone just lines up to take them.....then they turn 8.....just kidding.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:39 pm
by MOLD
Azure Crow: hehe..everytime I bring the shovel and marshmellows out,everyone just lines up to take them.....then they turn 8.....just kidding.
What in the world...?? O_O (lol) *grabs some marshmellows and runs*

Ok! So it's finally proven! (if it wasn't obvious already...)
I'm curious of what other people might THINK who Endrance was... I mean, really... He has a lot of similarities to you-know-who. Blue hair, red eyes, interesting hat... Ehhh, looks can't be everything, but just pointing out the obvious... ^^

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:12 pm
by LegendaryDarkKnight
Yeah right we all know Endrance is really Lios. JK. The only thing that makes me sad is how come we didn't get kick ass Endrance from the beginning?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:15 pm
by juunishi master
At the very first time I saw Endrance appearance, his hair color reminds me of something. When I read the review, I'm pretty sure that Endrance is that person.

He has same hair color tough. And obsessed with Mia, Mia, Mia and Mia...

Hehe.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:20 pm
by DarkDoc02
LegendaryDarkKnight wrote:Yeah right we all know Endrance is really Lios. JK. The only thing that makes me sad is how come we didn't get kick ass Endrance from the beginning?
 Elk wasn't much more than a lackey in the originals.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:02 pm
by MOLD
Lackey? Well... whatever that means, he was an essential teammate for my party. ^^

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:11 pm
by DarkDoc02
That's exactly what I meant. I used Mistral in Infection, didn't use a wavemaster at all in Mutation, and used Wiseman in outbreak and Quarantine. Didn't use Elk unless he was required.

Lackey is just my own term for someone who just stands there to fill space and doesn't really do much. :)

Although Endrance will probably be a different story. :twisted:

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:46 am
by MOLD
Sweeet... I guessed it right! Yay context clue skillz! XD

Hm... I leveled up Elk until he was like, really strong and I made it through that 15-floor dungeon in the end with Balmung... I guess if you didn't bother using 'em whenever you could, you wouldn't have made it alive... or did you...??? o_O

When Endrance joins us, he DOES still have that charm thing in his weapon, right?? Man, he'd own with that! Can't wait to have 'em join us. ^^

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:41 am
by DarkDoc02
MOLD wrote:Sweeet... I guessed it right! Yay context clue skillz! XD

Hm... I leveled up Elk until he was like, really strong and I made it through that 15-floor dungeon in the end with Balmung... I guess if you didn't bother using 'em whenever you could, you wouldn't have made it alive... or did you...??? o_O

When Endrance joins us, he DOES still have that charm thing in his weapon, right?? Man, he'd own with that! Can't wait to have 'em join us. ^^
The characters level up whether you used them or not. I got Elk to level 99 before Kite. The final dungeon is only tough because of all the data bugs.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:24 pm
by chosenofmana7
DarkDoc02 wrote:
MOLD wrote:Sweeet... I guessed it right! Yay context clue skillz! XD

Hm... I leveled up Elk until he was like, really strong and I made it through that 15-floor dungeon in the end with Balmung... I guess if you didn't bother using 'em whenever you could, you wouldn't have made it alive... or did you...??? o_O

When Endrance joins us, he DOES still have that charm thing in his weapon, right?? Man, he'd own with that! Can't wait to have 'em join us. ^^
The characters level up whether you used them or not. I got Elk to level 99 before Kite. The final dungeon is only tough because of all the data bugs.
I'm pretty sure all characters of the same class have the same stats, just equiptment makes them seem different. Moonstone, Natsume and Kite always had equal stats dispite, plot-wise, Kite>Moonstone>Natsume. I think its the same w/ Rachel, Marlo and Bulmung. The only character who breaks the stat system is Helba but thats due to the plot. Outside that I think it doesn't matter which wavemaster you use, Elk, Mistral and Wiseman are the same(Pick Mistral!!!!!)

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:44 pm
by Red Frost
chosenofmana7 wrote:I'm pretty sure all characters of the same class have the same stats, just equiptment makes them seem different. Moonstone, Natsume and Kite always had equal stats dispite, plot-wise, Kite>Moonstone>Natsume. I think its the same w/ Rachel, Marlo and Bulmung. The only character who breaks the stat system is Helba but thats due to the plot. Outside that I think it doesn't matter which wavemaster you use, Elk, Mistral and Wiseman are the same(Pick Mistral!!!!!)
Well, there's slight differences... I think Kite is the only one who is equally effected by status effects, where others are weaker to one type. Also, they have different elemental specialities. Mistral has higher Thunder, while Elk has higher Dark. And with Heavyblades, Sanjuro will only use Katanas, while Blackrose doesn't care.

Kite (balanced), Natsume (higher Wood), and I think Moonstone (higher Water).

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:10 am
by Azure crow
if your level is put down,your stats don't decrease,and when you go back up they increase again,so various characters can have different statas easily.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:56 am
by silabus
about all of this ...  that ELk is Endrance is an old news , and surely he turned like that because :ç
  ELk :if girls doen't like me,nor the viruses ,then im going with boys!
hhahah

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:01 am
by Azure crow
you don't have to have a certain reason to be homosexual,and assuming everyone "turned" that was may be offensive to them.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:04 am
by silabus
mmm... youre right im discrimeine a lot lately .... forgive my joke!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:20 am
by chosenofmana7
Red Frost wrote:
chosenofmana7 wrote:I'm pretty sure all characters of the same class have the same stats, just equiptment makes them seem different. Moonstone, Natsume and Kite always had equal stats dispite, plot-wise, Kite>Moonstone>Natsume. I think its the same w/ Rachel, Marlo and Bulmung. The only character who breaks the stat system is Helba but thats due to the plot. Outside that I think it doesn't matter which wavemaster you use, Elk, Mistral and Wiseman are the same(Pick Mistral!!!!!)
Well, there's slight differences... I think Kite is the only one who is equally effected by status effects, where others are weaker to one type. Also, they have different elemental specialities. Mistral has higher Thunder, while Elk has higher Dark. And with Heavyblades, Sanjuro will only use Katanas, while Blackrose doesn't care.

Kite (balanced), Natsume (higher Wood), and I think Moonstone (higher Water).
I think the elemental stats are related to what 'wave'(element), the character chose, so Minstral must have chose Thuner and Elk chose Dark but in the end, PhaAni Zot and PhaRai Zot will still be dealing the same damage unless the enemy resists one element.

The Natsume Moonstone thing is new to me though, with twin blades they don't get the water and earth skills putting Natsume above Moonstone damage wise.

Still, ATK, DEF, M ATK, M DEF, ACC, EVD, M ACC and M EVD+ Status resistances are the same for class members. The chosen 'wave' is kind of like a second sub class that decides elemental stats. Still this gives you no reason that Mistral and Elk are different, just Mistral should stick with Rai spells and Elk with Ani but with their respected elements they can deal the same damage. Although now I will never use Moonstone again

And the Sanjyro thing is completely new to me, I never update his equip outside end game(where Katannas are most powerful compared to Broad Swords) and his quests.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:08 pm
by AuraTwilight
Also, Mia wasn't a virus, she was an AI.