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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:12 pm
by zaffax
They never actually say what is is. In KH, Ansem (Heartless), tells Sora to "Behold, Kingdom Hearts". When he said this he was refering to the door. However, in KH2, Xemnas refers to the giant heart in the sky that continued to grow with the destruction of the heartless. He also described it as his source of infinite power. We never see this though, as Ansem the Wise ends up destroying it with his machine.

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:03 pm
by haseoxth
if the japs keep this to themselves....im going to make heads roll...this is too good to keep to themselves...and they ship it over here cuz they are giving out what we didnt get...

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:24 am
by laysh
the door wasn't KH that was the door to light which holds KH. and If I remember correctly what Ansem the Wise destroyed was an incomplete kingdom hearts. and KH is just a space where all hearts are even all the world hearts. The infinite power is the power of will he wishes to harness that power by useing the hearts. That is what I took of it.

ummm,

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:20 am
by DotHack-Haseo
Most of this is already common knowledge.

I'm just really hoping they bringing it over here.

I want to play CoM on PS2 so bad.

I think it would be really interesting.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:33 am
by MeultimaSama
Man, they left out the voicing for all the new cutscenes! They did this for the first Final Mix too. >_<

For the longest time everyone wondered why Xemnas in KH:FM never uttered a word even when he was being beat up. When I got the game, I realized it was just because every additional cutscene was void of voices, OR using lines already present in the English version. I'd have been happy if they'd put in Japanese voices, odd as it would seem with the English dub choice for the Final Mix games.

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Anyway, as Niu tells me, apparently the game has been amped to a ridiculously hard level. The game testers apparently had loads of trouble with the Collesium Org XIII fights, as well as the new secret boss. To quote:

"We were glad that we even managed to land a single hit! Is he even defeatable?!" The game testers on the new secret boss.

Note that all tests were done on level 99 Sora on standard difficulty.

Nomura wanted to push the limits of the new secret boss so as to "Make Sephiroth look like a baby."

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:16 am
by Shirosaki
"We were glad that we even managed to land a single hit! Is he even defeatable?!" The game testers on the new secret boss.

Note that all tests were done on level 99 Sora on standard difficulty.

Nomura wanted to push the limits of the new secret boss so as to "Make Sephiroth look like a baby."[/quote]

Is the "new" boss they are talking about the organization's member(probably Roxas) you fight during the first part of "The World That Never Was? Man... just by seeing that video I can guess you have to make p´lans before fighting him... it will be too damn difficult, even more difficult than Xemnas in KH1: Final Mix...

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:43 am
by k-su
I wonder if they are gonna have dialogue for those new scenes in English, seeing as theyd have to get those VAs back to do it.

That's gotta be a weird feeling.

English VA doing English dialogue for a game that's gonna be in English, but its for the Japanese. that's gotta be funny.

yeah...

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:21 am
by DotHack-Haseo
Yeah......I gotta agree.

But thatt means if we order from over there, we won't need the subs...lol.

That's funny.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:37 pm
by zaffax
MeultimaSama wrote:"We were glad that we even managed to land a single hit! Is he even defeatable?!" The game testers on the new secret boss.

Note that all tests were done on level 99 Sora on standard difficulty.

Nomura wanted to push the limits of the new secret boss so as to "Make Sephiroth look like a baby."
Shirosaki wrote: Is the "new" boss they are talking about the organization's member(probably Roxas) you fight during the first part of "The World That Never Was? Man... just by seeing that video I can guess you have to make p´lans before fighting him... it will be too damn difficult, even more difficult than Xemnas in KH1: Final Mix...
Just imagine if it isn't Roxas...and even he is a push over in comparison!

uhhhh.....

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:06 pm
by DotHack-Haseo
o_0

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:10 pm
by laysh
Roxas is suppose to be the hardest boss in it and why can't Sora do all those moves that roxas can in the fight once they join back O.o

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:24 pm
by hawthorneluke
i take it if you play the final fix, there's no point in playing the original? as it's only added content, none removed or anything?

see

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:24 pm
by DotHack-Haseo
See that's where it starts to not make since for me...if Sora and Roxas are the same people then shouldn't that mean that they have the same moves?

I just think it's bologna.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:42 pm
by laysh
hawthorneluke wrote:i take it if you play the final fix, there's no point in playing the original? as it's only added content, none removed or anything?
That would seem so. You just didnt' have to wait as long to get the story of coarse it isnt' 100% that we will get it but here for hopeing : D .

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:59 pm
by hawthorneluke
hmm yeah. i don't see why us westerner's wouldn't get it, but i guess thats the case most of the time :/
although seeing as half the trailer is more suited towards an english audience, i guess that does make it look more promising

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:24 pm
by laysh
yea It would be a real shame if we don't get it but since we didn't get KH:FM even with english in it it makes me worried. Of coarse I can guess why we didn't get the first FM since Sora's VA voice changed.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:58 pm
by Osamu
2 Words: Holy ****.

This made CoM super-less suckish. Marluxia is teh pwn.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:57 pm
by MeultimaSama
Roxas is NOT the secret boss. It's most likely one of the Armoured men from the secret trailer.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:18 pm
by laysh
one of those armored knights looks to be a woman

I could actually see us fighting a knight like in the first FM you fought an org. member assumeing they are against you of coarse.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:24 pm
by MeultimaSama
It may not necessarily be that they're against you or anything, maybe they want to test Sora like Xemnas did in the first game. Of course, Xemnas turns out to be a bad guy so...

Anyway, from the last bits of the trailer, you can see an Org member (Probably Xemnas) going down into a deep dungeon to see an Armoured Knight who appears to be sealed with Nobody chains. I've a hunch that's the one we're going to fight.

Also, quite old I guess, but Zexion's weapon turns out to be... Books! And pages (Duh!)

http://www.kh2.co.uk/image.php?view=img/img071.jpg