Tri-Edge Thing Lets start slow then build

Dot-Hack-Rocks · Post by **Dot-Hack-Rocks** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:05 am

Tsugasa-kun wrote:Naw, Cubia was definately Created way before the bracelet. in the last game, when The bracelet was shattered Cubia just dissappeared, he didn't really die. He was never linked to it to begin with.

of course he didnt die, or else the game wouldve died because he was part of the game. It was programed by the game to get rid of hackers. But i wouldnt say we have seen the last of Cubia because he was an important character in the .hack game.

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:08 pm

>.< he is not a protection program or a hacker hunter if he was then he would have gotton Helba and how can he be the other side of the braclet if he is that.

If your getting it from the liminality discs then you should know they are wrong. We are also getting alittle off topic though.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:22 pm

The one major flaw with Cubia being a protection program is that if we assume Aura is protected by the system, then so is the BRACELET because it's a fragment of Aura's data. Oh snap, what now? Not to mention how Kite is undeletable, so how would Cubia succeed in doing that? Dang, huh. There goes that theory. And you know what else? That whole thing with the system being a giant, complex algorithm to complete Aura, and how denying Kite's will is denying Aura's future, and thus, the system.

Guess Cubia is a bit of a hypocrite huh? Unless he's NOT a protection program and he's just the other side of the Bracelet like he's SUPPOSED to be. Then the entire story is just fine.

well in all honesty id suggest checking the liminality CDs cus apparently Cubia existed before the bracelet, before Kites time in the world. The bracelet was created and caused a data flux, Cubia then saw it and went after it. its called the Shadow of the bracelet cus it follows the bracelet, not act like it. Its job is supposed to destroy it so when Aura regave the bracelet to Kite Cubia dissappeared. and i also believe that Cubia will return in GU but who knows except the creators.

The Liminality DVD Easter Eggs are purely American and purely false. This is not up for discussion. The anime, the games, and the manga have all shown up the Easter Eggs for what they are.

i never said it was a protection program to begin with though Very Happy thats what makes the thing interesting, Cubia is supposedly also to have some control over the phases, and i guess the creation of the bracelet opposed the system of the game, thus Cubia took it upon himself to destroy it.

So now you're going back on your word? Now you're just like Cubia: A hypocrite. Also, Cubia doesn't have control over the Phases, sweety. That's Morganna. Now I KNOW you don't know what you're talking about.

Werent the Phases like illegal to begin with? so, would cubia want to destroy them?

No, the Phases are key parts of the system.

no. Cubia wasnt Illegal, he was mostly part of the Porgram to delete any threats in the World!

Cubia is probably the ONLY thing in the World that's considered illegal by Aura's standards. And that's saying something, because Aura is the only one who has the priveledge to decide what stays and what goes. Seriously, Kite is only illegal by CC Corp standards, and why would he listen to them? Kite is perhaps the only player the World actually needs, since with the Bracelet, he's the only one who can kill the Phases and thusly help Aura be born, which is the entire purpose of the World.

The phases were designed just like Cubia, except their job was to study the emotions of players to give birth to the ultimate AI After Aura was born the phases became useless so instead of running from deletion they decided to delete the one that would have brought it upon them, Aura. also Cubia is designed to protect the world, and since the bracelet was formed after Cubias creation Cubia set out to destroy it. The phases only attack cus you get in their way they aren't after you, you are after them! and the only one after you is Cubia. oplus at the end you don't kill him he just dissappears cus the bracelet has been broken.

Cubia was not "designed" in any way, shape or form. He's a true anomaly that spontaneously generated. Aura is not born by the time the games take place. She's only a shade of what she's truly meant to be, a bunshin if you will. The Phases are still in the progress of collecting data during this time period. It's just that Morganna corrupted them to capture Aura. And after Kite destroys Skeith, then yes, the Phases are VERY much after him, even more so than Aura who is out of commission. Also, where did Cubia dissapear to? Don't have an answer? Aura herself said that the Bracelet and Cubia need each other to EXIST.

Now, after all this evidence, you have to be really obnoxious and stubborn, or really stupid to think Cubia is still part of the system.

.hack// SIGN · Post by **.hack// SIGN** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:13 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
Cubia was not "designed" in any way, shape or form. He's a true anomaly that spontaneously generated. Aura is not born by the time the games take place. She's only a shade of what she's truly meant to be, a bunshin if you will. The Phases are still in the progress of collecting data during this time period. It's just that Morganna corrupted them to capture Aura. And after Kite destroys Skeith, then yes, the Phases are VERY much after him, even more so than Aura who is out of commission. Also, where did Cubia dissapear to? Don't have an answer? Aura herself said that the Bracelet and Cubia need each other to EXIST.

By the way, remember at the end of the last .hack game- where Aura gives Kite the bracelet again....
Doesn't that mean that some new form of enemy was created- something like another Cubia?

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:21 am

Yea that still gets me. Some say that the new braclet Aura fixed it so it wouldn't happened again. My first thought on Tri-Edge was because of the new braclet but I think its deeper then thought.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:33 am

im gunna stick with my theories for now till the game comes out but i strongly believe that cubia just stopped chasing kite after the first bracelet was destroyed. then when kite left, his character remnants just floated around slowly growing and evolving, then all the negative actions players performed caused the data to malform then an "AIDA" or something of the sort happened, sparking the creation of a new AI or Player known as Triedge

.hack// SIGN · Post by **.hack// SIGN** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:10 pm

laysh wrote:Yea that still gets me. Some say that the new braclet Aura fixed it so it wouldn't happened again. My first thought on Tri-Edge was because of the new braclet but I think its deeper then thought.

It could be that- or maybe the existence of Shugo's bracelet and Kite's new bracelet together caused it to happen......
....strange, very strange.....
... agh, there I go rambling again

Yves · Post by **Yves** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:09 pm

OR, Tri-Edge could have formed because both Shugo's and Kite's bracelet's fused, and the side-effect with a character that looked like both, but with a red bracelet?

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:38 pm

highly unlikely, i don't think the bracelets can fuse together.

Yves · Post by **Yves** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:51 am

Tsugasa-kun wrote:highly unlikely, i don't think the bracelets can fuse together.

And you would know htis how?

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:21 am

what would make it fuse and if it can I highly dought its the reason for tri-edge.

Yves · Post by **Yves** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:17 am

laysh wrote:what would make it fuse and if it can I highly dought its the reason for tri-edge.

That's why this is a 'theory' thread. We don't actually know how it works, so we're just throwing things out there and seeing what develops :-/

Just because you say it isn't so, doesn't make it true.

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:36 am

But your theory has no base. You havn't said anything that made you come to your conclusion. All our theorys have at least an example why its possable. Even fictional stories have some logic to it.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:58 am

yeah there needs to be back up, its liek writing an essay, it can be complete bull but as long as you have evidence to back it up properly you can write an amazing essay.

Legendary_Tri_Edge · Post by **Legendary_Tri_Edge** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:08 am

All theories should be discussed, not rejected because of no facts so far. Remember we have about six months for Ban-Dai to release info for //G.U.

.hack is very complex, and with people like AuraTwilight not helping people with their theories, it would all go to crap.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:29 pm

yeah but regardless a theory needs something to lay upon otherwise its just an opinion or statement.

Theories have conclusions and such to back them up. saying that The bracelets fused together from shugo and kites bracelet is more of a hypothesis than a theory

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:31 pm

hack is very complex, and with people like AuraTwilight not helping people with their theories, it would all go to crap.

I'm sorry, but that felt like an unnessessary jab at me just because I shot down your horrible, grammar-failure of a brainfart. Am I right? Don't bother answering that, your opinions don't mean anything.

Moving on...

OR, Tri-Edge could have formed because both Shugo's and Kite's bracelet's fused, and the side-effect with a character that looked like both, but with a red bracelet?

Now, everyone else may be saying this theory has no base, but none of you have much room to talk, since most of you criticizers make up even MORE outlandish and stupid theories. Hell, the best of us, like Umbra and I, have a popular theory of Tri-Edge being a digital reincarnation of Kite's first Bracelet. It has no base, but it's a fun idea to play with until proven wrong. No reason this theory is any different. Shugo and Kite-their bracelets fusing.

It's an interesting possibility, and one that would make great fanfiction. The only flaw in it is that Shugo's involvement--whatever it may be, however insignificant, would, for me, and several other fans, ruin the symbolism of the Second Coming. Although, after the Tri-Edge threat, I wouldn't mind the next chronicle of .hack having some connection to Shugo. He and his friends were my favorite characters, and three manga weren't enough in my mind to show off their wonders. (Of course, if we bring back Shugo and the others, we'll need to be fair and bring back everyone. Perhaps a series of games that fulfills the role of Unison--except with SIGN, Game, GU, and Udeden characters :3)

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:37 pm

Actually Aura our theory dose have a base. 1st thing that got me to think about it was the missing panels then the 2nd was the stiches in his clothing as if it was all just tattered peices.

.hack// SIGN · Post by **.hack// SIGN** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:24 pm

laysh wrote:Actually Aura our theory dose have a base. 1st thing that got me to think about it was the missing panels then the 2nd was the stiches in his clothing as if it was all just tattered peices.

Hey, this is an interesting arguement!
Laysh- do you think you could tell me where I can find your theory at, you know the one that you said you had?

(i'm just wanting to take in as much information as possible before I jump in too.)

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:24 pm

My theory is that Tri-Edge is remanets of Kite's old braclet the one he broke to kill cubia. Well over the years its builded up and when the servers restarted it started up the program again and became a vagernt AI. It could be why Tri-Edge's braclet is red and looks broken. Im not sure why the braclet is red but when kite broke the braclet it formed a red ring around it. Also his outfit is all stiched up like a rag doll. Also the name of the 1st game is Ressurection it might not be talking about the phases at all it could be the ressurection of the old braclet.