Ovan irl

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:25 pm

Rick wrote:
TheSorrow wrote:
Zer0 wrote:
haseoxth wrote:he my have somehow known about the twilight incident,and before looking for the key of Twilight(oh and if thats the book of twilight,then why was he looking for somethign right in front of him)
The book of Twilight is an item that Aura made to give the Bracelet to Orca. The Key of Twilight is something completely different.
Book of Twilight = Bracelet before installed
Key of Twilight = Ultimate AI

Its just that many people think the book of twilight is a book that talks about Aura and the Twilight Incident, and that the key of twilight is some kind of powerful-like-god item (an Ultimate AI is a god of the network...but not an 'item')
But Aura can also be a wish maker, something that Ovan is searching since he got infected...

Not much of a 'wish maker' itself.

Being an Ultimate AI, they have full control of the network and are gods of The World, so they can modify and create any data they feel like, without affecting the system (not sure about the last part)

So Ovan was probably searching for the next Ultimate AI, and if it is Aina, then it makes sense that Ovan looked for her and cared of her so that she would become the Ultimate AI and eliminate AIDA
But it can be reversed this time...and in order to have a new Ultimate AI, AIDA must be destroyed first.

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:38 pm

TheSorrow wrote:
Rick wrote:
TheSorrow wrote:
Zer0 wrote:
haseoxth wrote:he my have somehow known about the twilight incident,and before looking for the key of Twilight(oh and if thats the book of twilight,then why was he looking for somethign right in front of him)
The book of Twilight is an item that Aura made to give the Bracelet to Orca. The Key of Twilight is something completely different.
Book of Twilight = Bracelet before installed
Key of Twilight = Ultimate AI

Its just that many people think the book of twilight is a book that talks about Aura and the Twilight Incident, and that the key of twilight is some kind of powerful-like-god item (an Ultimate AI is a god of the network...but not an 'item')
But Aura can also be a wish maker, something that Ovan is searching since he got infected...
Not much of a 'wish maker' itself.

Being an Ultimate AI, they have full control of the network and are gods of The World, so they can modify and create any data they feel like, without affecting the system (not sure about the last part)

So Ovan was probably searching for the next Ultimate AI, and if it is Aina, then it makes sense that Ovan looked for her and cared of her so that she would become the Ultimate AI and eliminate AIDA
But it can be reversed this time...and in order to have a new Ultimate AI, AIDA must be destroyed first.

Your last idea don´t connect

, shouldn´t the Ultimate A.I. be the end of all AIDA´s, because even if all the 8 Epitaph Users and the Azure trio tried to finish with the AIDA, it would hide everywhere, even the internet.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:42 pm

What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:43 pm

Your last idea don´t connect , shouldn´t the Ultimate A.I. be the end of all AIDA´s, because even if all the 8 Epitaph Users and the Azure trio tried to finish with the AIDA, it would hide everywhere, even the internet.

I said that because AIDA could be stopping Aina from becoming the Ultimate AI, so you have to defeat AIDA (maybe not all of it, but Cubia exactly), so Aina can actually become complete.

Because the idea of Aina just turning into the Ultimate AI by mere time and fixing everything is kinda dull. It would be better if you actually had to help her, and that aid would be defeating the final boss.

What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?

I think that what he meant is, if the AIDA is not destroyed by an Ultimate AI, it'll hide somewhere else away from The World and would be undefeatable.

DataDrainZ · Post by **DataDrainZ** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:50 pm

I thought that AINA was the creation that Amagi and CC corp were trying to make since aura was gone

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:51 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?

(OMG I don´t believe I´m speaking to the great Mawd Gawd directly

)
Well, I think that the AIDA is too much for anyone to destroy completely, so there should be a debugger to do that, this was one of objectives of the Ultimate A.I.(as far as I´m corcened)

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:57 pm

DataDrainZ wrote:I thought that AINA was the creation that Amagi and CC corp were trying to make since aura was gone

All we know about Aina is that she's an AI who has a paternal relation with Ovan and likes reading books.
And what we suggest by theories is that she is result of the R.A. program, which instead of failing completely, just created an incomplete Ultimate A.I.

Vahn Staffear · Post by **Vahn Staffear** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:31 pm

Rick wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?
(OMG I don´t believe I´m speaking to the great Mawd Gawd directly )
Well, I think that the AIDA is too much for anyone to destroy completely, so there should be a debugger to do that, this was one of objectives of the Ultimate A.I.(as far as I´m corcened)

They might just use the people in Net slum to debug AIDA or something.

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:54 pm

net slum debuggers kill AIDA....ummm....no...data drain kills AIDA....if t didnt...then theres no reason for the infinity 8

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:14 pm

Vahn Staffear wrote:
Rick wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?
(OMG I don´t believe I´m speaking to the great Mawd Gawd directly )
Well, I think that the AIDA is too much for anyone to destroy completely, so there should be a debugger to do that, this was one of objectives of the Ultimate A.I.(as far as I´m corcened)
They might just use the people in Net slum to debug AIDA or something.

With enough stuff, i think they can modify's AIDA data into something else.

But it has to be something small (like Haseo's infection), and not something of the size of Cubia.

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:15 pm

TheSorrow wrote:
Vahn Staffear wrote:
Rick wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:What do you mean? What does the Ultimate AI have to do with the AIDA hiding?
(OMG I don´t believe I´m speaking to the great Mawd Gawd directly )
Well, I think that the AIDA is too much for anyone to destroy completely, so there should be a debugger to do that, this was one of objectives of the Ultimate A.I.(as far as I´m corcened)
They might just use the people in Net slum to debug AIDA or something.
With enough stuff, i think they can modify's AIDA data into something else.

But it has to be something small (like Haseo's infection), and not something of the size of Cubia.

they can make meatball....subs?

MeultimaSama · Post by **MeultimaSama** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:17 pm

TheSorrow wrote:I hope that in Vol. 3 you get to know the background story and real name of the characters. That way, we'll completely be sure if Endrance is Elk, Kuhn is Sieg, and Zelkova is a The World R:1 member/.hacker

Back to the .hackers topic, if Natsume joing to you in Vol. 3, and she really talks to you about the current network crisis...then i can agree with you with her being the help from all the .hackers (she'd join and give information, as well she could keep contact with the .hackers and help you alot)
But she as well could be just a random character you get that has no idea of what's going on. Sure, she was a .hacker...but so was Piros

Endrance's name was already confirmed, we just don't know Elk's. xD

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:07 pm

they can make meatball....subs?

o.O?

MeultimaSama wrote:Endrance's name was already confirmed, we just don't know Elk's. xD

All we need is his name. Or Endrance saying something like: "Oh, i was in The World before this...and there was Mia...and an orange guy with a bracelet tried to take her away from me......but its alright Haseo, kiss me now x3333"

MeultimaSama · Post by **MeultimaSama** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:12 pm

haseoxth wrote:net slum debuggers kill AIDA....ummm....no...data drain kills AIDA....if t didnt...then theres no reason for the infinity 8

Oh yeah, tell that to Mister Naked Man and Mister Winged Man.

TheSorrow wrote:
MeultimaSama wrote:Endrance's name was already confirmed, we just don't know Elk's. xD
All we need is his name. Or Endrance saying something like: "Oh, i was in The World before this...and there was Mia...and an orange guy with a bracelet tried to take her away from me......but its alright Haseo, kiss me now x3333"

Endrance: *Sees Azure Kite* Yo, Kite!

AFK: ?

Endrance: It'sa me, Elkdrance! You know, that wussy wavemaster from R1!

AFK: ...

Endrance: We had lots of fun together! But enough about me, how's you been?

AFK: ...Zzz.

Endrance: DON'T SLEEP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU! T_T

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:17 pm

Oh yeah, tell that to Mister Naked Man and Mister Winged Man.

Pwned.

Endrance: *Sees Azure Kite* Yo, Kite!

AFK: ?

Endrance: It'sa me, Elkdrance! You know, that wussy wavemaster from R1!

AFK: ...

Endrance: We had lots of fun together! But enough about me, how's you been?

AFK: ...Zzz.

Endrance: DON'T SLEEP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU! T_T

LMAO XD!

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:31 pm

Well, the AIDA are probably Anti-Existences, so they'll all be destroyed in one fell swoop if you take out the Light.

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:32 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, the AIDA are probably Anti-Existences, so they'll all be destroyed in one fell swoop if you take out the Light.

The problem is how the light will be taken away. In other words, i dont see how they could destroy their own Avatars. And there's no guarantee that'll fix everything.

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:37 pm

TheSorrow wrote:
Oh yeah, tell that to Mister Naked Man and Mister Winged Man.
Pwned.

Endrance: *Sees Azure Kite* Yo, Kite!

AFK: ?

Endrance: It'sa me, Elkdrance! You know, that wussy wavemaster from R1!

AFK: ...

Endrance: We had lots of fun together! But enough about me, how's you been?

AFK: ...Zzz.

Endrance: DON'T SLEEP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU! T_T
LMAO XD!

to the pwning...dammit....

and the other thing...
Endrance:Kite..its that you?
AFK:mooann...
Endracne:IT IS YOU...kite...can you do me a favor...ill give you every item i have...fi you pliz gimme your bracelet...then mia will come back to me!
AFK:mooann...*data drains*good riddance

DataDrainZ · Post by **DataDrainZ** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:02 pm

Okay that picture doesnt explain anything. Unless he actually said 'She has well kept eye brows" then you got nothing. Show me a pic of every girl shown in Liminality and compare eye brows. If everyone but Mai has some funked up drawn eyebrows then I will take that as evidence

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:05 pm

DataDrainZ wrote:Okay that picture doesnt explain anything. Unless he actually said 'She has well kept eye brows" then you got nothing. Show me a pic of every girl shown in Liminality and compare eye brows. If everyone but Mai has some funked up drawn eyebrows then I will take that as evidence

.... she DOES have "funked up drawn eyebrows" what more evidence do you need? We're not telling you that Kuhn IS Sieg, we're telling you that Kuhn COULD be Sieg, stop being so defensive about it. Also, Kuhn DOES state that in one of the e-mail chains, that he use to have a girlfriend that had well-kept eyebrows, and he regretted that he didn't treat her kinder.