What Do You Guys Think Tri-Edge's Blades Came From?

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Jing:King of Bandits wrote:Tri-Master how did Tri-Edge help Haseo in a way for god sakes he did Data Drain on'em.
He didn't data drain. If he drained him he'd be level one. Not turning into skieth. I think he gave him power to pkk.
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Jing:King of Bandits wrote:Tri-Master how did Tri-Edge help Haseo in a way for god sakes he did Data Drain on'em.
He didn't data drain. If he drained him he'd be level one. Not turning into skieth. I think he gave him power to pkk.
Haseo was PKKing before he encountered Tri-Edge, he did DD Haseo and we have no confirmation of Haseo transforming into Skeith.

I'm sick of the transformation idea! Why would a PC controlled by a human become an AI created to capture Aura? Skeith isn't even that intelligent.

I think Skeith acted like a shield of sorts, instead of Tri-Edge knocking Haseo into a coma with DD, Skeith got the brunt of the blow. I'm still not sure what effect that would had, but I'm assuming a...resurrection?
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Haseo says: "Ore ha koko ni iru" and then yelling SKEITH, translated he says "I am here". And as assumption he yells skeiths name I assume he was talking to him, like: "I am here, Skeith!!". So in some way maybe the two get in contact with each other and Skeith want Haseo to do something. Haseo doesn't really seem too happy when he's in that area :P

Bt the way, I love the sound of his scream ^_^ Great voice actor!
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"I am here" is also a persistant theme in SIGN. Tsukasa says it with various pronouns to indicate which side of the "boundary" between the real world and The World she's on, and who and where she thinks she is. I really think this is a replay on that theme, at least that's what it made me think of, Haseo coming to a revelation that changes everything he thought he knew, like Tsukasa...
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I think Skeith acted like a shield of sorts, instead of Tri-Edge knocking Haseo into a coma with DD, Skeith got the brunt of the blow. I'm still not sure what effect that would had, but I'm assuming a...resurrection?
Skeith could've taken the blow to give a small part of himself to Haseo. Not to say Haseo can data drain or turn into Skeith or whatever, but it might be like a sort of registration key that allows the system to recognize him as one of the Eight Phases and access the Uroburos Gate and other fancy stuff.
"I am here" is also a persistant theme in SIGN. Tsukasa says it with various pronouns to indicate which side of the "boundary" between the real world and The World she's on, and who and where she thinks she is. I really think this is a replay on that theme, at least that's what it made me think of, Haseo coming to a revelation that changes everything he thought he knew, like Tsukasa...
Interesting interpretation. You gotta remember that at this point in time, though, Skeith is infamous in the World. People don't know his true nature as a tool to create Aura, but they recognize him as one of the invincible monsters. Seeing Skeith, I'd probably do the same thing.
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Kuukai wrote:"I am here" is also a persistant theme in SIGN. Tsukasa says it with various pronouns to indicate which side of the "boundary" between the real world and The World she's on, and who and where she thinks she is. I really think this is a replay on that theme, at least that's what it made me think of, Haseo coming to a revelation that changes everything he thought he knew, like Tsukasa...
That's kinda what I meant, but my point was that he was talking to him, as an assumption Skeith was not in him or anything but is maybe about to give Haseo some rare and unusal power. A transformation into Skeith I do not believe he will or can do, as you play Haseo in GU.
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Jing:King of Bandits wrote:Tri-Master how did Tri-Edge help Haseo in a way for god sakes he did Data Drain on'em.
He didn't data drain. If he drained him he'd be level one. Not turning into skieth. I think he gave him power to pkk.
Haseo was PKKing before he encountered Tri-Edge, he did DD Haseo and we have no confirmation of Haseo transforming into Skeith.

I'm sick of the transformation idea! Why would a PC controlled by a human become an AI created to capture Aura? Skeith isn't even that intelligent.

I think Skeith acted like a shield of sorts, instead of Tri-Edge knocking Haseo into a coma with DD, Skeith got the brunt of the blow. I'm still not sure what effect that would had, but I'm assuming a...resurrection?
Maybe. But yet I still doubt it was a data drain. Skieth would probably be dead if so.
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O.o Huh? What attack other than Data-Drain looks like that?

It is Data-Drain, that has pretty much been confirmed, Tri-Edge beat up Haseo then Data-Drained him.

Why would Skeith be 'dead' if Haseo was Data-Drained by Tri-Edge? He doesn't come into the equation. What I'm curious about is why he isn't in a coma during the game like Shino...

That's where my theory comes from, in a similar way to the protection placed over Mai Minase, Haseo was capable of surviving Data-Drain because of some sort of protection placed over him. Skeith must be that protection because he seems to appear after the Data-Drain.

That's another thing you must remember, the Skeith incident may not have necessarily occured at the same time as Haseo's PKing
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Data drain might not be the braclet's only power.
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Tri-Master wrote:Data drain might not be the braclet's only power.
No, the Bracelet is made to extract incorrect data and re-write it. The Data-Bugs in monsters and the protection programmes placed on particular areas.

You should know that, you use the Bracelet in the four complete games.
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Umbra wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:Data drain might not be the braclet's only power.
No, the Bracelet is made to extract incorrect data and re-write it. The Data-Bugs in monsters and the protection programmes placed on particular areas.

You should know that, you use the Bracelet in the four complete games.
Doesn't mean the braclet can't upgrade
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And it would upgrade...how? O.o

Try and explain how and why it would upgrade.
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Umbra wrote:And it would upgrade...how? O.o

Try and explain how and why it would upgrade.
We all know that Aura goes beyond the system and upgrading the bracelet wouldn't be too hard. But of course there might be other ways in mixing with the data of the bracelet than through Aura. I bet helba could maybe done that. Though I don't think it has been "upgraded" more than changed a little bit, like Tri-Edge and his weapons looks similar to Kite's.
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BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
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Seijiro wrote:We all know that Aura goes beyond the system and upgrading the bracelet wouldn't be too hard. But of course there might be other ways in mixing with the data of the bracelet than through Aura. I bet helba could maybe done that. Though I don't think it has been "upgraded" more than changed a little bit, like Tri-Edge and his weapons looks similar to Kite's.
Aura is a possibility, she has altered it before, though I doubt she'd alter the Bracelet to fit Tri-Edge's needs...

As for Helba, it has been confirmed that she, along with everyone else, couldn't tamper with the Bracelet, all she knew was how it worked.

Tri-Edge's Bracelet may have been corrupted, but that wouldn't give it new powers. The Bracelet was built specifically to alter data by removing bad data using Data-Drain, it can't do anything else. Even if it was a different ability, why would it look like a Data-Drain?
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Tri-Master wrote:BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
The only upgrade i know about is the 3 special powers from all .hack games you get when you DD too much, and they give you a special power.
EX. Drain Heart.(remember?)

And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused. :?
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Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused. :?
Which would be a corruption rather than an upgrade.

I say the Bracelet is damaged, it doesn't sound to healthy when its being used in the trailer.

But damage doesn't mean its upgraded, and we already know its Data-Drain is capable of knocking players into comas because of Shino.
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Umbra wrote:
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused. :?
Which would be a corruption rather than an upgrade.

I say the Bracelet is damaged, it doesn't sound to healthy when its being used in the trailer.

But damage doesn't mean its upgraded, and we already know its Data-Drain is capable of knocking players into comas because of Shino.
Well, maybe there were some difficulty trying to copy another bracelet.
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The Bracelet and, therefore, Kite's avatar can't be deleted because of the protection the Bracelet was given by Aura.

But I do think that it could easily be damaged by a complete re-creation of The World.

So Tri-Edge would be a crudely repaired avatar of Kite, both the body and the bracelet would be damaged.
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Umbra wrote:The Bracelet and, therefore, Kite's avatar can't be deleted because of the protection the Bracelet was given by Aura.

But I do think that it could easily be damaged by a complete re-creation of The World.

So Tri-Edge would be a crudely repaired avatar of Kite, both the body and the bracelet would be damaged.
But do you think that Tri-Edge is only a program made into a character revive the WORLD because from the DD i saw, it looks like Something wants to make the World the same as before, which included the phases.
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