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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:36 pm
by Kuukai
Kouen wrote:So basically Kite seems so retarded is because he is. Any hopes of  Aura curing his retardation?
No, he's effective as a weapon, and that's what he's given away as, to help Haseo  protect The World once the next problem happens. It would be really cool if they followed that up and showed him and Haseo fighting something together, though.
Tsugasa-kun wrote:anyways lets compare this, Ovan has an AIDA with the data space of an entire FIELD, Azure kite, 1 player. 1 player vs Entire field.... hmmmm which would win? I think the entire freaking field
You under/overestimate AFK. He's mainly empty space. When he fought Haseo the second time, he had no trouble fitting an entire field within himself.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:27 pm
by Kite669
I'm just wondering, can Ovans AIDA protect him from Azure Kites Data Drain?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:11 am
by Kuukai
No, it's simply that the Epitaph Users and Kite have serious trouble "truly" defeating each other. The only thing notable about his AIDA is how strongly bonded to him it is, but he's not the only one infected to the point of it being impossible to remove with a normal Data Drain.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:56 am
by Chili
Kuukai wrote:
Chili wrote:And Azure Kite obviously needs glasses. XD
Ovan: *holds up chart* Now cover one eye and tell me what you see.
Kite: D-A-T-A-D-R-A-I-N. Oh, shi-... *bracelet goes off*
Haseo: *screams*
Ovan: *issues heavy prescription, with cool orange tint*
LOL :roll:

Kite's Visual Acuity:

Left eye: 20
Right eye: Above 400

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:52 pm
by Arrcu
More evidence on the DD being aimed at Ovan and not Haseo is that Haseo was reformated when he was hit by it. If Ovan was hit by it, then he would be rid of the AIDA<TriEdge>

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:12 pm
by Fragments.beta
Arrcu wrote:More evidence on the DD being aimed at Ovan and not Haseo is that Haseo was reformated when he was hit by it. If Ovan was hit by it, then he would be rid of the AIDA<TriEdge>
Except that Haseo already DD <Tri-edge> and it didn't kill it.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:39 pm
by Squall
Could it have something to do with Aura's power that because she created the Azure Knights they had more power a perfect example of this is when Balmung and Orca destroy an AIDA in one hit, so theortically Kite should be able to remove Ovans AIDA perfectly as he was created by Aura not the user

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:43 pm
by AuraTwilight
No, all Data Drains function exactly the same. Aura didn't have time to wait BECAUSE Ovan's AIDA is so deeply embedded. It can't be removed without a total wipe of his character.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:35 pm
by Azure crow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAtOGaVZhPM

I couldn't get the good version done,as it it on another computer,but here is the spoof version of the video.

All data drains do funtion the same,the only variation is the way the drain is delivered,an example is with or without protect break status,or when you compare Data Drain to Drain Heart.
Drain heart is more efective,but is still only a mass of data drains at once,with no varying power level.
Data Drain's effectivness lyes in quantity,not quality.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:08 pm
by Kuukai
No, it's pretty definite that Data Drain has different strengths. Otherwise, Ovan's plan either never would have worked, or he would have gone after Kuhn and the series would have ended partway through Roots.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:15 pm
by Azure crow
Kuukai wrote:No, it's pretty definite that Data Drain has different strengths. Otherwise, Ovan's plan either never would have worked, or he would have gone after Kuhn and the series would have ended partway through Roots.
Ovan had to be data drained multipule times,thus quantity over quality.
However a drain may be affected by the strenth of one's emotions,but an NPC's data drain is the same as the next's.
I'll admit I forgot that point when I made my last topic,and I admit that I may have made my point invalid doing so.
However,quantity DOES effect the strenth,because each three drain blades from a drain hearty have the power of a full fledged data drain.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:28 pm
by Kuukai
Azure crow wrote:Ovan had to be data drained multipule times,thus quantity over quality.
If that were true, again, the series would be over in Roots.
Azure crow wrote:However,quantity DOES effect the strenth,because each three drain blades from a drain hearty have the power of a full fledged data drain.
Drain Blades? Umm, if you're talking about the Knights, their ability to kill the AIDA without DDing can probably be explained without making up (admittedly cool) new words. Even Avatars can kill lesser AIDA with only physical attacks, presumably their weapons are made out of the same stuff, but better, or something. That doesn't mean they have anything to do with data drain.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:36 pm
by Jimbob
Azure crow wrote:Ovan had to be data drained multipule times,thus quantity over quality.
However a drain may be affected by the strenth of one's emotions.
It actually seems that way or at least Avatar's do.

During the first arena tournament, Haseo first awakens Skeith in anger over Bordeaux and all the stuff she did to him. He really really wants to get her and as a result he attacks her and she's knocked out temporarily and doesn't appear for the rest of the Volume.. Later on against Alkaid (who angers him but hasn't actually done anything bad to him, or his friends) he doesn't want to use his avatar and only uses it out of desperation with not nearly as much anger an harmful intent. As a result Alkaid's fine after losing and jumps up withing seconds.

In Volume 2 against Bordeaux he uses Skeith against her AIDA and once again she's apparantly comatose or something as a result of data drain(since she vanishes again, maybe til Vol.3 I don't really know?) Haseo's furious in this scene since throught the match she insults Alkaid and mocks him for not being able to help her so he really really hates her here. Then later he fights Sirius and his AIDA (once again with no hate here he's trying to help Sirius) and data drains him and Sirius is pretty much ok afterwords.

So either Avatar's are more deadly based on you amount of hatred for your target, or Bordeaux just can't take Avatar attacks well.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:12 pm
by Vlaidmare
Azure crow wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAtOGaVZhPM

I couldn't get the good version done,as it it on another computer,but here is the spoof version of the video.

All data drains do funtion the same,the only variation is the way the drain is delivered,an example is with or without protect break status,or when you compare Data Drain to Drain Heart.
Drain heart is more efective,but is still only a mass of data drains at once,with no varying power level.
Data Drain's effectivness lyes in quantity,not quality.
Dude, I laughed my ass off at this! It was SO damn funny! xD

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:40 pm
by AuraTwilight
I'm assuming that Data Drain can be strengthened by "<3 Powr."

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:05 am
by destai
Jimbob wrote:
Azure crow wrote:Ovan had to be data drained multipule times,thus quantity over quality.
However a drain may be affected by the strenth of one's emotions.
It actually seems that way or at least Avatar's do.

During the first arena tournament, Haseo first awakens Skeith in anger over Bordeaux and all the stuff she did to him. He really really wants to get her and as a result he attacks her and she's knocked out temporarily and doesn't appear for the rest of the Volume.. Later on against Alkaid (who angers him but hasn't actually done anything bad to him, or his friends) he doesn't want to use his avatar and only uses it out of desperation with not nearly as much anger an harmful intent. As a result Alkaid's fine after losing and jumps up withing seconds.

In Volume 2 against Bordeaux he uses Skeith against her AIDA and once again she's apparantly comatose or something as a result of data drain(since she vanishes again, maybe til Vol.3 I don't really know?) Haseo's furious in this scene since throught the match she insults Alkaid and mocks him for not being able to help her so he really really hates her here. Then later he fights Sirius and his AIDA (once again with no hate here he's trying to help Sirius) and data drains him and Sirius is pretty much ok afterwords.

So either Avatar's are more deadly based on you amount of hatred for your target, or Bordeaux just can't take Avatar attacks well.
Neither of the examples from the arena in volume one were of data drain. Haseo only data drained Endrance andKuhn in the arena in volume 1. The other two he just had Skeith take a swipe at.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:11 am
by Jimbob
I meant Skeith in general not just data drain.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:05 pm
by destai
Jimbob wrote: It actually seems that way or at least Avatar's do.
oh sorry, my bad.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:19 am
by Azure crow
When I talk about "Drain Blades",I mean the blasts of data that are used to data drain.
If I was going to come up with a material words for the knights and Avatar weapons,or anything else that can induce coma's on touch,I would use a word like "Drain code" or "Data meshe" or if you want to get geeky about it,"Drain Sheath"


however,we shall call this material "drain blade" from now on,and I claim the word.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:59 pm
by Umbra
O.o Who gave you that authority?