I don't think we're going to kill tri-edge in VOL 1..

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:53 am

Apart from that, it doesn't fit. TriEdge isn't a real PC.

*DATA BUG* · Post by ***DATA BUG*** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:00 am

well hes definatly not 100% PC but he stil might be some odd freaky kind of hidden PC

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:02 am

*DATA BUG* wrote:ya i mean in my hart of harts i think having tri-edge would be one heck of a blast but in all reality this si probay never gonna happen since (apart form the phases) who else would be the bad guy???

Other AIDAs, probably.

Also, who's controlling the avatar doesn't make a huge difference in whether they could become PCs or not. Mia was part of the system, too.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:29 am

Yeah, but Mia DOES conform to normal rules.

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:43 am

Now you're going back and forth between your arguments. My point is that both occasions have occurred at some point already, those being 1) the ability to recruit a nigh-well-invincible PC, and 2) a PC who is very much a digital entity.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:48 pm

Yes, but the recruition of a character who is beyond normal game rules hasn't happened.

YouTube · Post by **Erroneous** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:54 pm

Dengar wrote:Yeah, but Mia DOES conform to normal rules.

How's getting sick, having your PC speak in giberish, and have an character model of a cat deem "normal rules"?

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:02 pm

Doesn't change the way she plays. She still has stats like any other PC. Her graphics don't malfunction when she takes damage and she doesn't warp all over the place. She doesn't do things a PC can't possibly do. Gameplay-wise.

YouTube · Post by **Erroneous** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:11 pm

Dengar wrote:she doesn't warp all over the place. She doesn't do things a PC can't possibly do. Gameplay-wise.

So where does she go when she gates out or "logs off"?

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:24 pm

That's got little to do with gameplay.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:48 pm

I think what Dengar means is that even though we have played alongside AI, in the form of Mia, in the past, we have never played with an AI that is outside the system in terms of gameplay capabilities.

While Tri-Edge is impossibly strong, Mia is no more powerful than your average player, she is not invincible and the enemy does not require data-drain to defeat her.

I would say that if we get Tri-Edge at all, he will have had to have undergone some sort of downgrade in power, if not, there is no way we would get him. Unless, of course, he is the Helba of the new games and can only be unlocked at the end of Volume Three.

YouTube · Post by **Erroneous** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:50 pm

Umbra wrote:I would say that if we get Tri-Edge at all, he will have had to have undergone some sort of downgrade in power, if not, there is no way we would get him. Unless, of course, he is the Helba of the new games and can only be unlocked at the end of Volume Three.

That or a useless eye candy like a level 50 Orca in your party list that is unuseable

Surge · Post by **Surge** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:54 pm

Umbra wrote:Unless, of course, he is the Helba of the new games and can only be unlocked at the end of Volume Three.

I would have to go with this one, if you are to get Tri-Edge as a party memeber I would think it be at the end and he would still have needed to lose losts of power and probly the braclet as well

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Mon May 08, 2006 2:32 pm

But I thought the agreement was that Haseo will defeat Tri-edge? Not so? If it was, that would mean that Haseo eventually becomes more powerful than Tri-edge, thus making Tri-edge a possible ally through the virtue of being less powerful. Does that make sense?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon May 08, 2006 4:08 pm

Evem IF Tri-edge turns out to be not-so-bad and even if Tri-edge is willing/capable of forming parties with Haseo, Haseo seems like the type who will carry a grudge to the end of the Earth. He would NEVER forgive Tri-edge for Data Draining Shino.

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Mon May 08, 2006 4:30 pm

If that's true, I'm not sure I like Haseo's character.

Kiru · Post by **Kiru** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:39 pm

I personaly think having Tri-Edge as an ally would be amazing, since he is my favorite character.

I think that "Somthing" about his past will make haseo feel pity or somthing like that, as in somthing happens after we defeat him, and he is no more powerful than a level 99. (<-- that made me laugh, lol)

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:36 pm

marthwmaster wrote:If that's true, I'm not sure I like Haseo's character.

What would YOU be like if somebody severely injured your best friend?

Surge · Post by **Surge** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:43 pm

unless through out the games it changes his own outlook on it...I know it's not that likely but just a "what if" kind of thing

*DATA BUG* · Post by ***DATA BUG*** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:46 pm

dengar has a good point but...

the only way this would happen is if the adia goes BYE BYE and then kite comes back. this woud result in norma gamepaly no datadrain and a normal charecter who is jsut a twin blade (thats the only exception)

so then he cant hold a grudge aagainst kite since kite didnt do anything.

*wow this keeps on going 1 theroy after the next*

also then if the adia escapes tri-edge, then u have your boss to fight