Haseo - Carnard Guildmaster?

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:56 pm

Looking further into this topic, which arose when Shinsou Wotan brought our attention to the relationship between Grunties and Guildmasters, I am guessing that Haseo becomes the Guildmaster for Carnard.

Not only does the scene in which Deathrunty is speaking to Haseo resemble the @home for Carnard, but on the official GU website, if you look here you will see that Haseo and his Deathrunty are both in the image of Carnard's @home.

Haseo does seem the type to become Guildmaster for Carnard, he had a particularly tough time when he first logged into The World and I am sure he will have experienced that all over again in GU after being Data-Drained. He may develop a sympathy for newbies at some point, or may admire the idea behind Carnard.

He also seems to possess a stronger will than that of Silabus, who he will have to replace as Guildmaster at some point in order for this to be a reality. Though whether or not it is because Silabus gives up his position willingly, or is incapable of fulfilling his role, or any number of scenarios in which power is transferred to Haseo take place is unknown.

Also, looking at the scan from The World magazine here, I would not be surprised if Haseo becomes a member or even the Guildmaster of Carnard. It appears to me that Carnard will be caught in the middle of larger Guilds' political struggle. Of course, we can not be sure of the role of any of these Guilds until the page is translated.

Incidentally, I would also like to know whether or not Kuhn is a member of Raven, as he seems to be connected with Raven in this diagram.

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:03 pm

What you say makes sence, I can see Haseo making a guild for newbies since he was one before. Maybe the connection Canard has with the other guilds is its maybe it's neutral. Moon Tree might be trying to get Canard on their side in the war in exchange for protection from any PKers. While Kiestrel is most likely threating them not to get involved in the war. Since their all newbies and Kiestrel is all PKers I don't really see them wanting them join their side. I can't really figure out Raven's purpose because we don't have a good info about them right now. Kuhn could be part of Raven but that could go either way.

I wouldn't be surprised if Haseo replaced Silibus as guild master. He may be back to newbie level but that doesn't mean he forgot how to play the game. Not to mention, to does who seen Roots. Does the @Home for Canard look a lot like The Twilight Brigade's? Could they have a connection some how? Or am I just seeing things?

Surge · Post by **Surge** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:09 pm

thats what is messong me up cause the Canard's and the twilight Brigade guilds have the same look....so you think that maybe Haseo or the previous owner changed the guilds name from Twilight Brigade to Canard?

I think that if it is true that Haso is Guildmaster Canard then he must be neutral for his own reasons. I don't know about the Raven and Kiestrel but he is shown in a pic running around Moon Tree, maybe he is trying to keep peace between the guilds...although that dosen't sound like something he do

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:25 pm

Or maybe they just look the same because they were designed the same.

I mean, it's like Blackrose and Mimiru looking the same.

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:46 pm

Dengar wrote:Or maybe they just look the same because they were designed the same.

I mean, it's like Blackrose and Mimiru looking the same.

But that's characters. Homes wouldn't look the same unless someone from Twilight Brigade started Canard.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:51 am

Unless, of course, Twilight Brigade and Carnard share a similar default design for new Guilds. Even TaN's @home has similarities, though not nearly as many as the aforementioned @homes.

So until there if evidence to suggest otherwise, I will say that Carnard is a separate Guild.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:17 am

wave killer wrote: But that's characters. Homes wouldn't look the same unless someone from Twilight Brigade started Canard.

Why not? THe fact that BlackRose and Mimiru look similar is due to pure coincidence. This may be pure coincidence as well. Or there may just be a limited number of designs to choose from, even.

Nenja · Post by **Nenja** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:03 am

my gues it that every small guild have the same @Home and afther it have cetain numbers of players the leader of the guild can upgrade the @Home and later wend it grow even lager you it can get an unique @Home

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:07 am

Although that would be interesting...

Well lets just say it's interesting, but we can't confirm that.

Dawn of the Warrior · Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:38 pm

Wait Carnards the guild they say is made up of noobs right?
Well i guess Haseo Qualifies since he got DD'ed

Nenja · Post by **Nenja** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:52 pm

Dawn of the Warrior wrote:Wait Carnards the guild they say is made up of noobs right?
Well i guess Haseo Qualifies since he got DD'ed

that not true newb are wend your new to the game and haseo been playing for 8 months in G.U.
thougth some people in the game migth think he is a newbie because he lv get back too 1

and noob mean idiot.

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:14 pm

Dawn of the Warrior wrote:Wait Carnards the guild they say is made up of noobs right?
Well i guess Haseo Qualifies since he got DD'ed

It isn't made up of newbies; its purpose is to help newbies. There's a difference.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:03 pm

Given the fact that new blood seldom joins the game due to being killed a lot.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:27 am

I believe it has been confirmed previously that at the start of GU, Carnard has only two members; Silabus and Gaspard.

So it isn't made up of newbies, though they appear to assist Haseo at the start of the game. With Haseo's prior experience, it would not be difficult to imagine him rising to the top.

Cruel Ruin · Post by **Cruel Ruin** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:53 pm

I really hope Haseo just stays in the Twilight Brigade but highly unlikely...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:10 pm

The Twilight Brigade was disbanded before the game even began.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:52 pm

Haseo can't be the Canard Guildmaster, Thats Silabus. Aparently Haseo is the Guild Master for A guild but it looks like the Headquarters for the Twilight Brigade. Since the room looks exactly the same.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:28 pm

You know, it might be worth mentioning, that in //ROOTS, the TaN grunty resembles Tawaraya, rather than Naobi.

Nenja · Post by **Nenja** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:40 pm

Dengar wrote:You know, it might be worth mentioning, that in //ROOTS, the TaN grunty resembles Tawaraya, rather than Naobi.

that was a guest key,they never show the actual Grunty of TaN

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:42 pm

The guest key has a picture of the grunty, no?