Sora and Haseo

SnowManZero · Post by **SnowManZero** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:15 am

hey i just had a thought which i can bring to the table.

i just watched the last ep of sign and right when sora get's DD skieth appear's behind him. the wand was seperate! and i don't think it was skeith who DD sora.

i'm sure that this brought to everyone's attention. what i'm lead to belive is that seing as the wand was seperate there is something else which the terror of death need's in order for haseo to become skeith-a player to become his wand.

what if instead of a data drain as it's interpreted normally(ie it going to aura) what if it assimilated sora into skieth's wand. this would explain his appearence in outbreak and why skeith wasn't with the wand.

once assinilated sora would loose any free will of his own and had to go along with whatever skieth was doing.

once skeith was defeated sora was able to relocate to a dungeon or for that matter move around in the world freely until someone destroyed the 'final boss' cubia/ corebenik whatever his name is.

now if you transfer that over into the worldR2 then for skeith to have his wand he would need a player sacrifice to become the wand.

OR you could say that sora is skeith without control of his body but rather a puppet on string's and in a different outfit.

i'm sure someone will poke a hole into this theory but i like this theory. it relate's sora to haseo or at least skeith (this is a case of read between the line's).

i should probably put a complex theory in the speculation's thread but i figure it would find it's home here. i will probably place this into the speculation's thread but for the moment here it is.

k-su · Post by **k-su** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:54 am

Thing about Sora captured in the wand makes me think about a link between Liminality and Zero. remember in the case of Mai Minase, when she was playing, a cloaked figure carrying the wand was shown onscreen. When I first watched it, I didnt know what to make of it b/c skeith is the one who carries that thing, so what I think may be the thing with that is that while, you are playing the game, Liminality begins...during Zero, Sora wears a cloak and carries Skeith's wand, doesnt he? So that means that while in Infection, Skeith was chasing Aura as himself, he also came after Aura as Sora too before you defeat him in the game. Skeith may choose to show himself at certain times like when he's actually found Aura, but when he's searching, Sora may be his disguise as he roams the game searching for her. That's my thoughts on that.

By the way, anyone know the ranking system for posts? I looked all over, but I dont see it anywhere. Just wondering when my rank will move up( Probably not for awhile)

milliennium_fox · Post by **milliennium_fox** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:28 pm

Shinsou Wotan and Kuukai mention about that in this thread.

It does seem that the wand and Skeith are seperate from each other. It did continue to exist long after Skeith was gone.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:26 pm

Skeith's wand isn't part of the original Skeith program. It was created by Morganna to seal Sora within it and punish him for his betrayal. Skeith can function just fine without the wand, but because he has it, he can access Sora's files.

SnowManZero · Post by **SnowManZero** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:03 pm

wow my theory is holding it's ground!

Skeith can function just fine without the wand, but because he has it, he can access Sora's files.

that seems reasonable but why would he want to acces sora's file?

there is still the question though of whether or not there will be a wand in the new game/s. if so i feel sorry for whoever has to suffer that though it would be cool to run around in a game!

that's a laugh- shino become's skeith's new wand

and k-su rank goes up when you hit seventy.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:04 pm

that seems reasonable but why would he want to acces sora's file?

Espionage. In ZERO, it's been proven that Skeith is atleast hiding with Sora's form to look for Aura in root towns and whatnot.

SnowManZero · Post by **SnowManZero** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:35 am

a though which may get transferd to the speculation's thread.

sora get's 'DD' and is used as a puppet by morganna and as a wolf in sheep's clothing espionage situation(i don't know the exact name) by skeith.skeith hide's in sora to get around without being noticed and when he find's aura, skeith take's control and goes to how we all know (and love

) him. skeith die's sora is free.(haven't finished the last game yet it may be different then what i'm posting. if so i appolagise)

tri-edge meet's haseo(and the whole thing with shino) and while tring to DD him shino get's caught in the cross fire.haseo goe's searching for tri-edge for revenge. he find's him at HFHG. he get's 'DD'. and he is back to noob-like status.

at the end of the G.U. trailer, we see skeith2 or at least we're to believe it is skeith2. it is also assumed that he were to be born from haseo the same way skeith1 was with sora and also from what the image's at the end of the trailer show.(when he was glowing green and yell's out skeith and then skeith appear's)

what if instead of DDing haseo,as we are led to believe by the red bracelet, tri-edge placed data into haseo-skeith's data. and at the end of it all skeith come's out of haseo.

i have cross referenced some stuff with the trailer's i think and this probably should be in the speculation's thread but this way it would tie sora to haseo.

they were both used to create form's of skeith. there data was used so that they could roam around freely until the time come's when the phases are needed. haseo find's aida and presto skeith come's out and does his whole bit.

this thought should be in the speculation's thread but it would probably more at home here for the moment.

sorry if it bored you to sleep.

i'm sure someone will find something wrong with it

k-su · Post by **k-su** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:20 pm

tri-edge meet's haseo(and the whole thing with shino) and while tring to DD him shino get's caught in the cross fire.haseo goe's searching for tri-edge for revenge. he find's him at HFHG. he get's 'DD'. and he is back to noob-like status.

nothing really wrong with your theory, its just that in this part, it seems that in the trailer,Haseo had had never seen Tri-edge b4, so he couldnt have been in a situation where Shino gets caught in a DD crossfire from Tri at Haseo, since they'd never met. Everything else seems pretty plausable.

um...as far as the reverse stream data drain theory, I think it is extremely possible....ooooouuu....just hit with an idea.
This also comes from stuff I heard on another thread, but my new idea is that what if Tri-edge's infection rate is somehow over the red zone, his bracelet glowing red. Then his data is corrupted and he is maybe out of control...or in an attempt to lower his infection rate, he goes around killing other players...maybe he meets Haseo in the cathedral when his infection rate was super high and reverse stream data drains Haseo to get rid of some of the data. The data overwhelmed Haseo's player data, causing the data to be altered and resulting in the destruction of the cool armor. An excess of data just explodes out of Haseo. maybe the new wave of bracelet power is not a new Data Drain, but a new move called Data Overload!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a thought though...just trying it out. Cant wait to see what evrybody has to say about it.[/quote]