Old characters to return and make cameos?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:25 pm

The only way I see older characters having any logical appearance is if they left behind memory fragments like the SIGN characters did in the original four games. I can just imagine it. Haseo passes by the Cathedral to get clues on Tri-Edge, and sees phantoms of Blackrose and Kite when they first meet.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:30 pm

tht sounds kool

Post by **Kuukai** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:34 pm

Tri-Edge doesn't necessarily have Kite's bracelet. Also, "they don't know it's happening" seems like a sorry excuse, since Kite was entrusted by Aura with the bracelet a second time for just this kind of thing, probably.... And they both know a bunch of people irl who probably keep playing...

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:32 pm

hey
i lykd the idea that the 8 dont kno watz going on
that waz my idea n the first place

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:35 am

Kuukai wrote:Tri-Edge doesn't necessarily have Kite's bracelet. Also, "they don't know it's happening" seems like a sorry excuse, since Kite was entrusted by Aura with the bracelet a second time for just this kind of thing, probably.... And they both know a bunch of people irl who probably keep playing...

It seems unlikely, The World, the game they all played together, is gone. That makes me think that the idea behind this game is to start afresh. New plot, new characters, new World.

If Tri-Edge was created using Kite's avatar, and that seems most likely at the moment, then Kite wouldn't be capable of logging on as Kite and, therefore, wouldn't have a bracelet.

Even if they did know, they'd probably have to create new characters and without the bracelet, they're helpless, they can't do anything about it.

If they find out about the Infinity Eight, it is possible that they would pass information on to Haseo. But I don't see that happening personally, this seems to be a new enemy with a new plot.

milliennium_fox · Post by **milliennium_fox** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:42 pm

Also, the biggest problems in The World are from Pkers. There's nothing so far that indicates that the real world is being affected. So, I don't think that they know about what's going on behind the scenes.

As for Tri-Edge, his attacks seem to be so rare that he's more of a myth than an actual threat raging in The World.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:32 am

No apparent problems in the Real World? Well, that is true if you don't count the fact that those Tri-Edge PKs are put into comas.

But you are right about the whole myth idea, Tri-Edge does seem to be legendary in the sense that many people doubt it even exists.

Light Kagutsuchi · Post by **Light Kagutsuchi** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:38 am

If The World became a messed up industrial world I'm sure someone would investigate, even if they had to make new characters. Balmung especially seems like the type to do so. Granted, a great deal of time has passed, but I don't think that Kite and co. would just forget about Aura and The World. Although I'm not too sure about Shugo, he seems pretty flaky.

As for Tri-Edge, his attacks seem to be so rare that he's more of a myth than an actual threat raging in The World.

Good point. I’ve been wondering about exactly how many players have been Data Drained by Tri Edge. Shino was, but even for rumors to come into existence there has to have been at least one survivor; comatose people usually don't post on the BBS. The whole Azure Flame description must have come from somewhere.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:59 am

Light Kagutsuchi wrote:If The World became a messed up industrial world I'm sure someone would investigate, even if they had to make new characters. Balmung especially seems like the type to do so. Granted, a great deal of time has passed, but I don't think that Kite and co. would just forget about Aura and The World. Although I'm not too sure about Shugo, he seems pretty flaky.

I'm guessing that's just the look of the new World, a new style. If I was Balmung, I'd probably abandon The World entirely, its not the same place he'd come to love, was it?

I doubt they'd have forgotten, but .hack has always been like this. The characters play their part before stepping aside and allowing others to take their place.

It seems to me that Kite has stepped aside to allow Haseo to take his place.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:54 pm

Good point. I’ve been wondering about exactly how many players have been Data Drained by Tri Edge. Shino was, but even for rumors to come into existence there has to have been at least one survivor; comatose people usually don't post on the BBS. The whole Azure Flame description must have come from somewhere.

OOooh! Double good point! Then again, people could've seen Tri-Edge without actually facing him, like someone around the corner witnessing one of his attacks, and gating out before they were detected. My money's on Ovan.

Light Kagutsuchi · Post by **Light Kagutsuchi** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:37 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
Good point. I’ve been wondering about exactly how many players have been Data Drained by Tri Edge. Shino was, but even for rumors to come into existence there has to have been at least one survivor; comatose people usually don't post on the BBS. The whole Azure Flame description must have come from somewhere.
OOooh! Double good point! Then again, people could've seen Tri-Edge without actually facing him, like someone around the corner witnessing one of his attacks, and gating out before they were detected. My money's on Ovan.

I concur. Ovan definelty has some part in the Tri Edge rumors. Ovan could have spread all or most of the rumors, perhaps to motivate Haseo or others to seek out Tri Edge.

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:39 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
Good point. I’ve been wondering about exactly how many players have been Data Drained by Tri Edge. Shino was, but even for rumors to come into existence there has to have been at least one survivor; comatose people usually don't post on the BBS. The whole Azure Flame description must have come from somewhere.
OOooh! Double good point! Then again, people could've seen Tri-Edge without actually facing him, like someone around the corner witnessing one of his attacks, and gating out before they were detected. My money's on Ovan.

There is one confirmed witness to a TriEdge attack: Midori from CELL.

ULFRIC · Post by **ULFRIC** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:58 am

um...if Tri-Edge attacks so rarely
that he'z more myth than fact
then sumthing must trigger the attacks
right?
something xtremely specific

RoyMaster · Post by **RoyMaster** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:57 am

if they do make a cameo i wont how different it will look

you know with the new graphics and everything

Loki. · Post by **Loki.** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:14 pm

then sumthing must trigger the attacks

That's exactly what I was thinking... but nothing came to mind.

He DD'd Atoli, and I don't know much about the game so far, but it appears as if she was just in Hidden Forbiden Holy Ground, just there... nothing to incite attack.

However, seeing as Tri-Edge is probably one of these "AIDA" things, he was likely formed in part by data fragments from Kite's last character (hence the Kite-like appearance and somewhat of an explanation for the Data Drain bracelet).

Kite was connected to Hidden Forbiden Holy Ground on many occasions and for many reasons... it may seem like a stupid theory, but perhaps Tri-Edge remembers this, and either guards it, or kinda claimed it as his own or something?

Animals do that in the real world, so it's not totally farfetched.

Then again, this only would explain attacks within Hidden Forbiden Holy Ground, and none outside.

And, another just popped up: The main drive of all living things is to survive. Of course, Tri-Edge is not a living being, but he is artificially intelligent, and that AI is likey based on that of a human or some other living creature, so he likely has the drive to live.

Anything that he percieves as a threat to this, he would destroy without hesitation.

Or maybe, he's just a crazed PKing AIDA on the loose.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:48 pm

He could be like Shadow/Skeith Sora from ZERO, staying near Hidden Forbidden Holyground or other areas with gloomy keywords.

DarkZero · Post by **DarkZero** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:49 pm

http://altimit.insyderonline.com/album_ ... pic_id=405

Check that out you'll notice "Tri-Edge" On the Twinblade class =/

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:26 pm

DarkZero wrote:http://altimit.insyderonline.com/album_ ... pic_id=405

Check that out you'll notice "Tri-Edge" On the Twinblade class =/

Read the caption:

Insydius's version of how the character creation pages appear as in .hack//FRAGMENT. Note that these images use silhouette images that were best viewable. The Twinblade silhouette is not available in Fragment and the translations were as best as could interpret.

In other words, this image was compiled by the image creator from a variety of sources, and the TriEdge silhouette came from some source other than Fragment. I have yet to see any official source that gives any information whatsoever about what TriEdge is, other than the magazine referring to him as a "mysterious PC".

adamgnome · Post by **adamgnome** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:53 am

All the character data was lost, but that doesn't mean we won't be seeing them as new characters eventually.

That image someone posted of the fragment character select is photoshopped. XP

Mitsuhide_Akechi · Post by **Mitsuhide_Akechi** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:08 pm

I think that some characters like Balmung and helba will be showing up somehow and I think there is something to endrance, but that is for a different thread so I won't go more into it. Besides, I'm probably not right about my feeling in any case.