What Do You Guys Think Tri-Edge's Blades Came From?

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:58 pm

It may not include the Phases, but that's one of my theories.

The Bracelet was made to repair The World, and suddenly The World is deleted almost entirely, which is quite a lot of damage.

So my theory is that every new area, every new Player Character and every new AI is some form of damaged data from Tri-Edge's point of view.

It'd certainly explain why he DDed Shino, who had little connection to the Phases. He simply viewed her as a glitch and 'repaired' her using Data-Drain.

Dot-Hack-Rocks · Post by **Dot-Hack-Rocks** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:02 pm

Umbra wrote:
It'd certainly explain why he DDed Shino, who had little connection to the Phases. He simply viewed her as a glitch and 'repaired' her using Data-Drain.

So, Tri-edge has been seeing other characters as broken, so when he DD'd haseo, Shino, and Ovan they werent un-repaired anymore?

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:08 pm

Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:So, Tri-edge has been seeing other characters as broken, so when he DD'd haseo, Shino, and Ovan they werent un-repaired anymore?

Ovan? I'm assuming you mean Haseo.

Yes, that is one of my theories...Of course there is the slight disadvantage of players falling into comas. ^_^'

Who knows, Haseo may even be the only one immune to Tri-Edge's Data-Drain because he's already been repaired. Or Tri-Edge may feel that its Data-Drain didn't work and will want to do it again.

Tri-Master · Post by **Tri-Master** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:11 pm

Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
The only upgrade i know about is the 3 special powers from all .hack games you get when you DD too much, and they give you a special power.
EX. Drain Heart.(remember?)

And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused.

Sorry to break it to you but DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND THE GAMES! I just ordered the third one, with no luck of finding the second, I have the first. And yup. It might've inserted.

Dot-Hack-Rocks · Post by **Dot-Hack-Rocks** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:23 pm

Tri-Master wrote:
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
The only upgrade i know about is the 3 special powers from all .hack games you get when you DD too much, and they give you a special power.
EX. Drain Heart.(remember?)

And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused.
Sorry to break it to you but DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND THE GAMES! I just ordered the third one, with no luck of finding the second, I have the first. And yup. It might've inserted.

lol, wow, i have all 4..beat them all like 5 months ago...now i just need to beat the item completion poop. But, atleast you got the third one, it took me awhile also, but thanks to ebay it came with it. So, like just go to EBAY.

Tri-Master · Post by **Tri-Master** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:27 pm

Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
The only upgrade i know about is the 3 special powers from all .hack games you get when you DD too much, and they give you a special power.
EX. Drain Heart.(remember?)

And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused.
Sorry to break it to you but DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND THE GAMES! I just ordered the third one, with no luck of finding the second, I have the first. And yup. It might've inserted.
lol, wow, i have all 4..beat them all like 5 months ago...now i just need to beat the item completion poop. But, atleast you got the third one, it took me awhile also, but thanks to ebay it came with it. So, like just go to EBAY.

Where do you think I'm ordering them from? Gonna bid on a cheap volume 2 one.

Dot-Hack-Rocks · Post by **Dot-Hack-Rocks** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:14 pm

Tri-Master wrote:
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:
Dot-Hack-Rocks wrote:
Tri-Master wrote:BOO-YAH! Besides the braclet REWRITES data so who says he can't make it a positive rewrite?
The only upgrade i know about is the 3 special powers from all .hack games you get when you DD too much, and they give you a special power.
EX. Drain Heart.(remember?)

And second of all, the DD image with Tri-edge wasnt blue, it was red, so it mightve upgraded by instead of taking out the virus core, it inserts the virus core into the person or monster being DD. But i do kind of think the Rewriting one is true too...soo confused.
Sorry to break it to you but DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND THE GAMES! I just ordered the third one, with no luck of finding the second, I have the first. And yup. It might've inserted.
lol, wow, i have all 4..beat them all like 5 months ago...now i just need to beat the item completion poop. But, atleast you got the third one, it took me awhile also, but thanks to ebay it came with it. So, like just go to EBAY.
Where do you think I'm ordering them from? Gonna bid on a cheap volume 2 one.

well, good, but back ON TOPIC: i think the blades came from each of the phases data, like maybe the 3 tips on each blade represents 6 of the phases, and the 2 eyes represent another phase being brought.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:53 am

As for this Bracelet discussion, it's pretty clear it was corrupted or damaged, but these Data Uploading theories people are throwing around are just retarded. What the hell is the basis? The color of the beam? OH SNAP! Then what the hell is the GOLDEN beam from Shugo's beam? Data Flush? Puh Lease.

Seriously though, it is possible that Haseo survived purely by chance or human will like Mai. It'd totally be .hack for Haseo and the others to spend like, two thirds of the game trying to figure out how he's immune, thinking he hides a World-changing secret, but it turns out it was something relatively simple like ripping off his helmet at the last minute.

Hey wait a minute- Here's a much more plausible reason for why Haseo didn't get comatose. Did anyone else see him get Protect Broken? ****, there goes the theory of Haseo having the max b33tz.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:05 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Hey wait a minute- Here's a much more plausible reason for why Haseo didn't get comatose. Did anyone else see him get Protect Broken? ****, there goes the theory of Haseo having the max b33tz.

You keep bringing this up... -_-'

The idea of Protect Break even featuring in this new version of The World is questionable, as I've said elsewhere, because we don't seem to be controlling a character capable of Data Drain, Protect Break would be pointless.

If it does feature, there is the questionability of it featuring in the game trailer. Would people outside the .Hack fanbase understand what they're seeing?

Even if it does feature, people say that it is possible that Tri-Edge's palm attack could have caused a Protect Break. Though I doubt it personally.

You add all these factors together and I believe the theory of Haseo surviving because he was still protected looks pretty unlikely.

Tri-Master · Post by **Tri-Master** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:14 pm

Who knows, he might have, It just might not have shown it. Tri-Edge is pretty powerfull.

DarkZero · Post by **DarkZero** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:22 pm

It could of just automaticly somehow COME with him when he was created...?

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:50 pm

He is the main hacker there...

Maybe he duped it

Zeicule · Post by **Zeicule** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:22 pm

I'm sticking with the Orca and Balmung theory. I mean, it does explain a lot since they ARE the legendary descendents of fiana and the most well known/strongest charachters in "The World". The only thing that conflicts this theory is that it is an entirely new system, but the fact that Tri-Edge is against the system, ie not supposed to be there, is a violation its self, so he could have quite possibly brought the data with him and made them into his twin blades. And the fact that in the Manga they call him "Tri-Edge the Azure Flame" supports this theory. With Orca being the azure sea, and balmung being the azure sky, they are together, possibly making the middle, or the azure flame.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:28 pm

The idea of Protect Break even featuring in this new version of The World is questionable, as I've said elsewhere, because we don't seem to be controlling a character capable of Data Drain, Protect Break would be pointless.

And yet it made a brief cameo in the end of SIGN and such. Even still, since it was there, it's part of the plot of .hack. Thusly, we can't rule it out. If you're gonna make theories of the Bracelet becoming active on it's own and the Phases coming back and DATA DRAIN blah blah blah, you have to include Protect Break too. This isn't the Legend of Zelda storyline. God.

If it does feature, there is the questionability of it featuring in the game trailer. Would people outside the .Hack fanbase understand what they're seeing?

Yes, because people outside the fanbase would totally understand Data Drain, Tri-Edge's connection to Kite, Shino's surreal comatose scene, Skeith's involvement...

Great argument there, bucko.

Even if it does feature, people say that it is possible that Tri-Edge's palm attack could have caused a Protect Break. Though I doubt it personally.

Same here.

He is the main hacker there...

Maybe he duped it

Haseo isn't a hacker.

I'm sticking with the Orca and Balmung theory. I mean, it does explain a lot since they ARE the legendary descendents of fiana and the most well known/strongest charachters in "The World". The only thing that conflicts this theory is that it is an entirely new system, but the fact that Tri-Edge is against the system, ie not supposed to be there, is a violation its self, so he could have quite possibly brought the data with him and made them into his twin blades. And the fact that in the Manga they call him "Tri-Edge the Azure Flame" supports this theory. With Orca being the azure sea, and balmung being the azure sky, they are together, possibly making the middle, or the azure flame.

Orca and Balmung theory? What's that? and the Manga doesn't say anything like that. >_> yea, that whole block of text is wrong. It offends all five of my supersenses.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:09 am

AuraTwilight wrote:And yet it made a brief cameo in the end of SIGN and such. Even still, since it was there, it's part of the plot of .hack. Thusly, we can't rule it out. If you're gonna make theories of the Bracelet becoming active on it's own and the Phases coming back and DATA DRAIN blah blah blah, you have to include Protect Break too. This isn't the Legend of Zelda storyline. God.

Hmm? A cameo in SIGN? That was the style they used to show you when they were being Data-Drained, it happened when the Guardian Data-Drained a player. I don't see Sora being attacked, which would cause the Protect Break, he was simply being Data-Drained.

AuraTwilight wrote:Yes, because people outside the fanbase would totally understand Data Drain, Tri-Edge's connection to Kite, Shino's surreal comatose scene, Skeith's involvement...

Actually, it is quite easy to understand what you see. Some strange attack deployed by Tri-Edge, Shino lying on the floor, as if dead, and some strange creature appearing at the end. Anyone who wanted to follow through could find the connection to Kite.

But these are all necessary points, you need Data-Drain to know why Shino is unconscious. You look at an image of Kite and of Tri-Edge and there's an obvious connection. But if you saw this orb around Haseo suddenly break apart and you had no idea what it was, would you think that was ordinary? It'd lead people in the wrong direction.

Zeicule wrote:And the fact that in the Manga they call him "Tri-Edge the Azure Flame" supports this theory. With Orca being the azure sea, and balmung being the azure sky, they are together, possibly making the middle, or the azure flame.

As far as we can tell, Tri-Edge isn't actually called 'Tri-Edge of the Azure Flame'. That was simply a name given to him on the board to help support the theory. He was named so because whenever he appears, he is always shrouded in Azure Flames. As you can see when he first appears in the trailer.

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:59 pm

AuraTwilight wrote: Haseo isn't a hacker.

I was talking about Tri-Edge...
He is the main hacker after all.
Didnt you see how he blown the other guy's weapon... (the last weapon, The AXE)

Light Kagutsuchi · Post by **Light Kagutsuchi** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:08 pm

I don't think Tri Edge is a hacker even though he destroyed Haseo's Scythe. There is no evidence to suggest he is even human, he is more likely a very powerful A. I., not a hacker.

Zeicule · Post by **Zeicule** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:33 pm

I don't think Tri-Edge is a hacker. I'm pretty sure that he is an AIDA, just for the fact that in the trailer AIDA pops up right after Tri-Edge appears, and it also says when it was born, the first thing it saw was a Player Killer. Maybe Tri-Edge is just mimicking what he saw when he was first brought into "The World". I think of it as him being a little kid mimicking an adult, not knowing what's right from wrong. But this is just one theory of the thousands floating around on this board.

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:30 pm

he is a hacker :@

didnt u see how he teleported from the ball and blown his weapon? also his last attack... he is probebly Kite's bro or something.

Dot-Hack-Rocks · Post by **Dot-Hack-Rocks** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:26 pm

Oblivion wrote:he is a hacker :@

didnt u see how he teleported from the ball and blown his weapon? also his last attack... he is probebly Kite's bro or something.

I don't see tri-edge as a hacker because he might be part of the system of the new "world." and i wouldn't think the character Kite as a brother.....there is no proof of that!!!