Do you think AppleStar is a unique PC???

[_Tri-edge_]

...I was thinking of Nanase from Alcor (i think it was Alcor, i forgot 'XD), but yeah, now that i remember, there was another Nanase in the game, and it wasn't related to Natsume or anything.
And yeah, NA00 and Oshino 8 Seas share models with others, Oshino does with General Leo, in fact. Henako with -COOH, Syake with Black Pearl and someone else. And NA00 shares it with the leader of...was it Zodiac or Silent Butcher? XD Anyways, it's Sui, the leader of one of those teams but i forgot which, and she's a Steam Gunner.

What about Pen-Pen and Ono? Where one's an Edge Punisher and one's a Shadow Warlock.

[CountDOOMDestroyer]

An interesting note, Battery Tomekichi and Governor Tadashi's models, while being different races, are very very similar.

Another interesting note...

Characters that share body styles tend to show up in the same root town. I think the game can only load a certain number of PC models at a time, and makes up for it by using whichever characters share those models instead of loading more.

To be more clear, whenever I see Kitty Ladle, Sagittarius, Gates, or TomCat is never far behind. General Leo and Oshino 8 Seas appear in proximity as well, and so on and so on...

Oddly, there are some PCs that never seem to appear at the same time...
Mile and her alternate never seem to both be on... Dragonfly and AK47 don't appear at once in my experience...

This could all be perfectly normal paranoia on my part of course...

paranoia is fun! but satoh i have seen dragonfly and ak47 on at the same time in the first one. i always see them in lumina cloth. however in the third one, which i have been playing ALOT recently, i never see those 2. i wonder y ???

[TheSorrow]

...I was thinking of Nanase from Alcor (i think it was Alcor, i forgot 'XD), but yeah, now that i remember, there was another Nanase in the game, and it wasn't related to Natsume or anything.
And yeah, NA00 and Oshino 8 Seas share models with others, Oshino does with General Leo, in fact. Henako with -COOH, Syake with Black Pearl and someone else. And NA00 shares it with the leader of...was it Zodiac or Silent Butcher? XD Anyways, it's Sui, the leader of one of those teams but i forgot which, and she's a Steam Gunner.

What about Pen-Pen and Ono? Where one's an Edge Punisher and one's a Shadow Warlock.

Well, what about them exactly? Models don't really say anything about the class the characters are, even though they give an idea and so it can throw people off to have a model mostly used for some class then it turns out the character has a completely opposing class (best example, Towa...a Ya Tribe Harvest Cleric who makes people freak out because you would never expect a friggin beast to try to heal you). So, it's perfectly normal and common to have same models and different classes.
And, going with game's mechanics, thanks to ZED we know that every generic model has access to every kind of weapon except Dual Guns, and that they all share the same files for skills, so the game has absolutely no problem in allowing someone like Henako to use Heavenly Wheel or 1/2 to spam OrAni Zots on you. You could see a Syake-like character as a Dance Macabre and that'd be perfectly fine, both for the actual GU game, and The World R:2 itself.

[GyppyGirl2021]

NAOO shares PC models with Mile, Olive and Aleanor, IIRC. Battery Tomekichi and Butt-Rice have the same PC model too, lol. XD

[Satoh]

NAOO shares PC models with Mile

This is incorrect. Mile has shoulder length hair untied, and NAOO has a large ponytail.

The rest of their outfits are too complex for me to describe, but they are very different.

Unimportant note: According to ZED's investigation, Mile is a twinblade with a unique animation file like the party members have, as opposed to the rest of the npc's which are all the same...

[TheSorrow]

Best way to difference NA00 and Mile....You can pretty much see Mile's breasts entirely, as much as Pi's if not more XD

And that unimportant note is more than important to me, and i don't even remember Mile in battles at all o-o How did he figure that out and what else has he said about it?

[GyppyGirl2021]

Maybe they originally planned for her to be a party member but scrapped the idea at the last minute? 0_o

And their models are similar at least XD

[Master ZED]

Unimportant note: According to ZED's investigation, Mile is a twinblade with a unique animation file like the party members have, as opposed to the rest of the npc's which are all the same...

No, that's a misunderstanding, as I wasn't sure how to clarify that part because I didn't know why there were two generic Twin Blade classes in the data (the data you're talking about has nothing to do directly with animations to my knowledge, but rather, Weapon level Skill sets and PC/SPC classes).

Mile is just a generic Twin Blade; the difference is in the fact that her class text, if you could see it, would read Adept Rogue. This is the same designation used by Sagittarius. Amongst generics, you can't adopt the Adept Rogue text without being a Twin Blade because that's all that's available (unless you were to use Matsu's, since he's the only Rogue whose first job doesn't involve Dual Swords).

This is why I say that unless the person's class is made explicitly clear in the game text somewhere, if they are not a Twin Blade, there is a chance the person you're dealing with is really a Rogue. Isolde is a prime example, as she's a Harvest Cleric according to the data, but states that she took the Adept Rogue class to go through the two Job Extension Quests. The charade only works because she doesn't fight in the Arena, where you can see the class title under their names.

[TheSorrow]

...I understood but got lost x-x
Lessee...what's special about Mile is that her class is directly stated as an Adept Rogue, right? And that's the same for Sagittarius, the other character that we're sure that is a Rogue? But so, if you can see the classes of each other PC, and read them as Twin Blade, Blade Brandier, Harvest Cleric, etc, why you say that every character could be a Rogue unless it says "Twin Blade"? Becuase, unless the game lies, which if i remember correctly it only does with -COOH and only a small text does, the characters' classes are well-stated and so they can say Blade Brandier, Harvest Cleric, Steam Gunner, Adept Rouge, etc, and that's what they'll be (Twin Blades in the case of Adept though). I just don't get where the "anyone can be a rogue" comes from....sure, anyone can equip any kind of weapon, but either way, they have a "pre-defined" class.
And if i remember correctly, what Isolde said is that she made another character to go through that Job Extension quest, to help others finish it, and the other character, the one we see, it's entirely a Harvest Cleric. The game's not really lying D:

[Master ZED]

Lessee...what's special about Mile is that her class is directly stated as an Adept Rogue, right?

Yip.

And that's the same for Sagittarius, the other character that we're sure that is a Rogue?

Yes, but we've known this for years since she fights in the Arena.

But so, if you can see the classes of each other PC, and read them as Twin Blade, Blade Brandier, Harvest Cleric, etc, why you say that every character could be a Rogue unless it says "Twin Blade"?

This is the list of available unmodded class choices in Redemption:

0098D150 - Generic Twin Blade, Azure Kite
0098D1A8 - Generic Blade Brandier, Azure Balmung, Azure Orca, unknown4
0098D200 - Generic Edge Punisher
0098D258 - Generic Lord Partizan
0098D2B0 - Generic Tribal Grappler
0098D308 - Generic Flick Reaper
0098D360 - Generic Steam Gunner
0098D3B8 - Generic Harvest Cleric
0098D410 - Generic Shadow Warlock
0098D468 - Generic Macabre Dancer
0098D4C0 - Generic Adept Rogue (Twin Blade)
0098D518 - Haseo
0098D570 - Atoli
0098D5C8 - Kuhn
0098D620 - Pi
0098D678 - Silabus
0098D6D0 - Gaspard
0098D728 - Piros the 3rd
0098D780 - IYOTEN
0098D7D8 - Asta
0098D830 - Matsu
0098D888 - Alkaid
0098D8E0 - Sakubo
0098D938 - Endrance
0098D990 - Antares
0098D9E8 - Bordeaux
0098DA40 - Negimaru
0098DA98 - Grein
0098DAF0 - Yata
0098DB48 - Ovan
0098DBA0 - Zelkova
0098DBF8 - Taihaku
0098DC50 - Gabi
0098DCA8 - Shino
0098DD00 - Sirius
0098DD58 - Nala
0098DDB0 - Sakaki
0098DE08 - Kaede
0098DE60 - Hiiragi
0098DEB8 - Sophora
0098DF10 - Tabby
0098DF68 - Natsume

We know everyone from Haseo down is who they say they are since those are unique, but for the generics, there is only one choice that outright states a given character is an Adept Rogue. I guess it's just hard for me to accept that out of over 500+ people, only one Rogue didn't have Twin Blade as their first class.

And if i remember correctly, what Isolde said is that she made another character to go through that Job Extension quest, to help others finish it, and the other character, the one we see, it's entirely a Harvest Cleric. The game's not really lying D:

This is true, I apologize. I should have looked this one up myself, but I went with the wiki instead.