Bleach Question
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kite//sugo
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Bleach Question
Since Ichigo has a Hollow mask appear on him durring the series around the Soul Society Arc does that make Ichigo a Vizard or something else.
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SnowManZero
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he's a shollow/shinigami hybrid which can't be catagorised by the above term's due to the fact that he's 50/50.
He's split perfectly down the middle, so classing as one or the other is purely arguementative.
he's not a vaizard-way to much shinigami in him, he's not a shinigami(he's a representative:P) because hollow boy is too present in him that he can't subdue him.
He learn's how to control his power, yes, so in that respect-yes he's a vaizrd., but vaizard's also have cero blast's and thus far he's yet to use it.
By the way, BLEACH ROCK'S.
He's split perfectly down the middle, so classing as one or the other is purely arguementative.
he's not a vaizard-way to much shinigami in him, he's not a shinigami(he's a representative:P) because hollow boy is too present in him that he can't subdue him.
He learn's how to control his power, yes, so in that respect-yes he's a vaizrd., but vaizard's also have cero blast's and thus far he's yet to use it.
By the way, BLEACH ROCK'S.
I had another theory, Ichigo´s father(Ishin) was a Shinigami when he married, that´s why he can´t and won´t return to Soul Society.
Because of that, Ichigo was born being a "Pure Shinigami" as to say, so he had much more Reiatsu than any other human and could see spirits.
But when he lost his powers trying to fight Byakuya and Renji, he made a training which is supposedly to not only restore the Shinigamis their powers, but to create Vaizards, because it IS impossible to get out of that hole without the strenght of an Hollow or a Shinigami, and that training will only restore their powers, not create a Shinigami like Rukia have done. That´s why he got a Hollow mask in his face while he was a shinigami, but he didn´t know at that time and Urahara revealed nothing.
So, at least for me, he can be considered a "Pure Vaizard" because he was a "Pure Shinigami" and turned into a Vaizard, quite simple in my opnion...
Agreed SnowManZero, BLEACH ROCK'S
Because of that, Ichigo was born being a "Pure Shinigami" as to say, so he had much more Reiatsu than any other human and could see spirits.
But when he lost his powers trying to fight Byakuya and Renji, he made a training which is supposedly to not only restore the Shinigamis their powers, but to create Vaizards, because it IS impossible to get out of that hole without the strenght of an Hollow or a Shinigami, and that training will only restore their powers, not create a Shinigami like Rukia have done. That´s why he got a Hollow mask in his face while he was a shinigami, but he didn´t know at that time and Urahara revealed nothing.
So, at least for me, he can be considered a "Pure Vaizard" because he was a "Pure Shinigami" and turned into a Vaizard, quite simple in my opnion...
Agreed SnowManZero, BLEACH ROCK'S
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Ichigo is a Vaizard,plain and simple.He was a shinigami to start with,and then had his inner hollow taped into.
@SnowManZero:representivative or not,hes a shinigami.and the vaiards cant use cero,they have Kido spells that look like cero becuz they dont have to chant.he isnt split down the middle...the reason he cant subdue his inner hollow is because he doesnt know how to defeat it.he doesnt know how to go into his own world...
@Shirosaki:his father didnt return to the soul societ becuz i think did fall in love,and didnt want to leave her.and ichigo never lost his powers.he lost RUKIAs powers.he had his own all along.and that hole Kisuke made was a test to tape into those powers.he had no clue that ichigo would become a vaizard....if ichigo was of weak mind and sprit,he would have instantly become a hollow,but he struggled and attain his shinigami powers.
anybody who has shinigami powers can become a vaizard.Isshin can become a vaizard if he felt like it...
and to both of you:BLEACH ROCKS MY SOX
@SnowManZero:representivative or not,hes a shinigami.and the vaiards cant use cero,they have Kido spells that look like cero becuz they dont have to chant.he isnt split down the middle...the reason he cant subdue his inner hollow is because he doesnt know how to defeat it.he doesnt know how to go into his own world...
@Shirosaki:his father didnt return to the soul societ becuz i think did fall in love,and didnt want to leave her.and ichigo never lost his powers.he lost RUKIAs powers.he had his own all along.and that hole Kisuke made was a test to tape into those powers.he had no clue that ichigo would become a vaizard....if ichigo was of weak mind and sprit,he would have instantly become a hollow,but he struggled and attain his shinigami powers.
anybody who has shinigami powers can become a vaizard.Isshin can become a vaizard if he felt like it...
and to both of you:BLEACH ROCKS MY SOX
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Yes they are spoiler's(but only if you don't read the manga).
Yes, this is not a cero blast from Shinji Hirako.
Yes, he doesn't know how to defeat his inner hollow.
haseoxth, you were right about something, however. That stuff you said to shirosaki was preety much dead on the mark. He did fall in love with ichigo's mother(who I have forgetten the name of) and his power's were lost.(We don't know why yet, it hasn't been revealed in the manga yet) he lost rukia's power's. While I'm sure that urahara didn't intend to help ichigo become a vaizard, he knew about them from at least the start of the manga(most definatly earlier) so that's the only thing wrong with your deduction on that part.
Yes, this is not a cero blast from Shinji Hirako.
Yes, he doesn't know how to defeat his inner hollow.
haseoxth, you were right about something, however. That stuff you said to shirosaki was preety much dead on the mark. He did fall in love with ichigo's mother(who I have forgetten the name of) and his power's were lost.(We don't know why yet, it hasn't been revealed in the manga yet) he lost rukia's power's. While I'm sure that urahara didn't intend to help ichigo become a vaizard, he knew about them from at least the start of the manga(most definatly earlier) so that's the only thing wrong with your deduction on that part.
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haseoxth
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ok...take a good look at the guy firing a cero...thats someone coming to knock out grimrawr(sp?)and bring him back to hueco mundo after disobeying Aizen.SnowManZero wrote:Yes they are spoiler's(but only if you don't read the manga).
Yes, this is not a cero blast from Shinji Hirako.
Yes, he doesn't know how to defeat his inner hollow.
haseoxth, you were right about something, however. That stuff you said to shirosaki was preety much dead on the mark. He did fall in love with ichigo's mother(who I have forgetten the name of) and his power's were lost.(We don't know why yet, it hasn't been revealed in the manga yet) he lost rukia's power's. While I'm sure that urahara didn't intend to help ichigo become a vaizard, he knew about them from at least the start of the manga(most definatly earlier) so that's the only thing wrong with your deduction on that part.
it was revealed why ichigo only lost rukias power.his own power lied dormant within,and byakuya only aimed for the power he had then,also overlooking his own.
and where did i say that kisuke didnt know about the vaizard.i said he had no clue ichigo would be come one.
and if you note,he had to be helped into beating his inner hollow.if he could get into the world within his own by himself,he could have done it.
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SnowManZero
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shinji hirako was fighting against grimmjaw, and wanted to kill him. he is not on Aizen's side, not working for him. PERIOD.
the only thing which ichigo got help with was getting into his inner world. That's what the Vaizar'd did. BUT once he got into that world he was on his own. If he got beat/died in that world, he would become a full hollow in the real world and the Vaizard's would have to kill him. the only thing going in ichigo's favor was the fact that ogihci was trying to teach him about 'instinct' while trying to kill him.
the only thing which ichigo got help with was getting into his inner world. That's what the Vaizar'd did. BUT once he got into that world he was on his own. If he got beat/died in that world, he would become a full hollow in the real world and the Vaizard's would have to kill him. the only thing going in ichigo's favor was the fact that ogihci was trying to teach him about 'instinct' while trying to kill him.
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haseoxth
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you right your right....that was shinji...forgot he saved his ass....but about the getting into his inner world ****...THAT WHAT THE HELL I WAS SAYING!!!!!!he couldnt beat his hollow if he didnt know how to find it.SnowManZero wrote:shinji hirako was fighting against grimmjaw, and wanted to kill him. he is not on Aizen's side, not working for him. PERIOD.
the only thing which ichigo got help with was getting into his inner world. That's what the Vaizar'd did. BUT once he got into that world he was on his own. If he got beat/died in that world, he would become a full hollow in the real world and the Vaizard's would have to kill him. the only thing going in ichigo's favor was the fact that ogihci was trying to teach him about 'instinct' while trying to kill him.