Do you think that the Cc2 guys are overdoing it?

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Do you think the guys at Cc2 are overdoing it?

Poll ended at Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:40 pm

yes
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no
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cidkuneraze wrote:
Amaethon wrote:Why have so many of you come of the opinion that we're gonna get an MMO? A .hack MMO would suck. It takes away from the simulated environment, the awesome characters and story; everything good about .hack. The next gen systems annoy me, because they even have all of these weird online features. It almost encourages the creation of MMO's, when all I really want to play is a normal game. Not to mention, I don't need all of the fancy entertainment features. I'm only going to use it to play video games. o.0;
Because, I think that's the direction .hack is going. they're already jumping the gun for a next gen game. G.U. isn't even quite complete yet. They already did .hack//fragment in Japan which was (nearly) an MMORPG based on Fragment, the beta version of The World. So, the logical thing would be that the Next Gen games are probably The World R:1 and R:2. Also, American .hack fans aren't the only ones who want an MMO, obviously, seeing as Fragment was released only in Japan.

Personally, I would miss the storyline, but, at the same time, I want to make my own character and do my own thing on a real MMO version of The World. Besides, how long are coma-inducing games gonna be under C.C. Corp's belt before players take the hint..?
The .hack series, as it stands has almost no luck of making a compelling mmo. Compare what every other mmo has to .hack? Also put into consideration that since there was no extra content at the end of Rebirth, what would they put for end game quests/missions/god kills/whatever? In essence TWR:2 actual story line is shunned away.
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Wan wrote:
The .hack series, as it stands has almost no luck of making a compelling mmo. Compare what every other mmo has to .hack? Also put into consideration that since there was no extra content at the end of Rebirth, what would they put for end game quests/missions/god kills/whatever? In essence TWR:2 actual story line is shunned away.
Who said an MMO had to be compelling? There's no 'compelling' MMO's that I've ever played. Nobody ever plays an MMO for storyline, they just want a game to play with other people. I didn't get Guild Wars for a storyline, though it actually has one. I got it to play with other people, to interact with them in a game... I never call an MMORPG an MMORPG except in explaining why I don't call them one. The Reason? No Roleplay or Necessity to follow a story.

As far as I know, there's no way to have an MMO work like an RPG unless you're encouraged to make a story yourself.

So, I would play a .hack MMO, and not expect a story or deep character personalities, because I know that's too much to expect from the MMO-Generation. I would just expect level ups, PK's, PKK's, and noobs. Oh, looky, right there is the making for the environment of the R:2 storyline and no programmers had to do anything to make it happen. :)
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I think what Wan means is, more than the story, neither The World's gameplay would make for a particularly good MMO...

Also, the part of the article by Matsuyama is now on the top page. ^^
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Post by Suyo »

I think.. The World needs to have a melt down
and return to its origins
and have more of the Epitaph revealed
the phases return (but, to make it more interesting..perhaps have the phases be Wandering AI?)

eh, prolly not

But its seems The World with all the mystery it once had in Sign, and in the first games is waring thin.. GU seems more of a personal quest of Haseo's than a quest for The World..
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I wouldn't mind if they had a pre-quel that takes place in .hack//Fragment. Either playing as Albireo, Balmung, Hokuto, Orca or a new character. Playing as Hokuto would be awesome, taking a twist from the male main character pattern in the .hack games.
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Kouen wrote:I wouldn't mind if they had a pre-quel that takes place in .hack//Fragment. Either playing as Albireo, Balmung, Hokuto, Orca or a new character. Playing as Hokuto would be awesome, taking a twist from the male main character pattern in the .hack games.
Yeah I like that idea, I think a pre-quel could work very well. :D
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well, i cant say that i agree or disagree. cc2 would be "over doing it" by adding more stories to one story, and kind of making it fit together. I mean, the oringinal story of having a corrupt game and fighting it, was cool. Then they added explainations to things, and that was fine too. Then, we skipp to the future (Legend of twilight) which wasn't really nessary, it was just more entertainment. and then GU, then Roots. what more could you possibly add!!?? OH, and now with the next gen. systems, why would you want to **** it up. is each system going to have a hack related story, or will the new story will intertwine with the old ones? BUT IF, cc2 decides to stay with sony, or what the hell, even go with microsoft and finish the darn story (GU), (also, when roots is done) it would be just great that they make a morpg for a next gen. system. and let us make our own story.
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Kouen wrote:I wouldn't mind if they had a pre-quel that takes place in .hack//Fragment. Either playing as Albireo, Balmung, Hokuto, Orca or a new character. Playing as Hokuto would be awesome, taking a twist from the male main character pattern in the .hack games.
Hokuto is Lady Badaoth. I would SO love to play as her.
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Immortal King wrote:it would be just great that they make a morpg for a next gen. system. and let us make our own story.
How? I can't find myself making my own story if I'm just an average player training to get levels. While being surrounded by hacking PKers. Who would want to play when hackers can speed around the Fields and deal 9999 damage per hit? By the way, don't expect to have your character to be in the middle of a Twilight Incident event, the account sharers will.
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Kouen wrote:How? I can't find myself making my own story if I'm just an average player training to get levels. While being surrounded by hacking PKers. Who would want to play when hackers can speed around the Fields and deal 9999 damage per hit? By the way, don't expect to have your character to be in the middle of a Twilight Incident event, the account sharers will.
im not saying that there would be a "twilight" incident. and im not saying that everything is going to be close to perfect. and of course every .hack fan, even more so the fanatics, (me being one), will want a story to be part of. when the next gen. computers ( im talking about when they will stop running off of dos.) who knows, "the world" might be the future, cc2 will just have to "experiment" more. what we do need though is something tangable, something other then a extended story. the way i see it, were in the 2nd generation of technology, going on the 3rd. theres going to be bugs up the a$$ in everything new. i just want it to speed up. BUT when everything is okay, will we be ready for it? or is it going to be some wow /or D2, LOD game.
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I can't imagine .hack becoming the future of this world. In the future Naruto will rule the world. -_-. Don't expect anything if they actually made "The World", not everyone is as wise as Phyllo. You would get mostly Bordeaux type players.
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Nah, most players are actually more like Azure Flame Kite, but with a little more flaming and a lot more real-world chatter superimposed.

Edit: Also, CC2's New Year's card says that 2007 will be a very important year for the company, comparable to 2006. Whatever's coming after Naruto is a secret, though.
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well, i have to agree. :D it just depends on which way cc2 goes, ecxtended story plot or other.
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Annwyn wrote:What I'm about to say is useless, but:

I wish they would go back to The World: R1.

I'm sure there's SOMETHING interesting they could do with the old version...

I just miss it like crazy. GU and Roots are great, sure--but it's just not the same. It feels too different. Actually, no. Roots fit in with the older series very well to me. I was able to liken it to the older series because of similarities, and because of that, I enjoyed watching Roots almost as much as I enjoyed playing IMOQ.

It was GU that just felt entirely different.

GU is a great game, but I miss the way things were. The feelings, the tension, the mystery, the danger, the unnerving seriousness of it all, the scattered puzzle pieces that had to be smashed together into one terrifying jig-saw...

Is it just me, or are the Avatars nothing more than dangerous additions to your character data? I wanted their origins and their binds to The World to be emphasized more detail, and I'm not talking about the Terminal Disk.

I'm rambling, but still. I want a .hack game that feels like a .hack game. Give me the area layout of GU, but the emotions that came from the older stuff.
It almost reminds me of Desperate Housewives (lol). The first season was so interesting because of the mystery and all of those hints and twists and turns. But after that it was just blahhhh. The same goes for G.U. It doesn't have the same feeling.
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Kouen wrote:I can't imagine .hack becoming the future of this world. In the future Naruto will rule the world. -_-. Don't expect anything if they actually made "The World", not everyone is as wise as Phyllo. You would get mostly Bordeaux type players.


im not just saying that "the world" will be the future, but that type of technology in a game will be. (someday.....)
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Akuta wrote:I wouldn't say they're overdoing it. All big franchises wants to move over to the next-gen and it's not unusual for a company to do so while other games are in development.

I actually have hopes of it being a multi-platform deal. There a few BandaiNamco 360 games out in japan, so they may make a smart decision and make a PC/360/PS3 mmorpg for us to play with :D
Totally.. but then.. we'd be on it 24/7

zaffax wrote:
Notive how the Wii ain't listed...
You wanna try a MMORPG on the Wii? Go ahead my friend. =\
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Osamu wrote:
Akuta wrote:I wouldn't say they're overdoing it. All big franchises wants to move over to the next-gen and it's not unusual for a company to do so while other games are in development.

I actually have hopes of it being a multi-platform deal. There a few BandaiNamco 360 games out in japan, so they may make a smart decision and make a PC/360/PS3 mmorpg for us to play with :D
Totally.. but then.. we'd be on it 24/7
What, you mean to say they aren't in .hack itself? :D
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if the made a next gen...it most likely would be an MMO cuz...they have more to work with....
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