Cubia

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:47 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:I think that it's a strong possibility that it's Cubia, in fact, that's what I'm telling everyone that it is... But think for a minute, why would Haseo be fighting Cubia? Cubia, like the 8 Phases, is a part of the system, so unless it is infected with AIDA fighting it would be pointless since it wouldn't be destroyed.

Without Knowledge wrote:Hmm, is it not possible for Cubia to still be the Twilight Bracelet's Anti-Existence? That's what it was before, what would make that change?
Well, you do remember the facts about Cubia right?

Cubia:

Morganna could anticipate human behavior and plan ahead. One example of this was Cubia, a monster designed to balance the game against hackers and edited character data.
Cubia was meant to seek out malicious players with illegal abilities like the Braclet and Data Drain, then deleting their PC files. Until Kite recieved the "Book of Twilight" and the Braclet, no players fitting this description had appeared, so Cubia had not been seen.Once the Braclet became active, Cubia sought Kite whenever he came in contact with Aura, because it believed Kite was a threat to the system, to which Aura belonged. Cubia did not attempt to attack Aura or the malfunctioning Morganna because it saw both Morganna and Aura as parts of the game world.
Cubia disappeared when Kite destroyed the Bracelet because the danger to the system was removed and its job was done. Cubia remains in the system, however, and should something new appear that threatens game balance it will launch again. Cubia copied Kite's character data everytime it was launched and was able to keep pace with Kite's increasing powers.

So Cubia is more than just the Twilight Bracelet's Anti-Existence, he was still in the game far after the Twilight. The Bracelet being destroyed simply caused him to lose the body it created from the remnants of Skeith, he still omnipresently existed.

I believe that it's Cubia, but I'm a bit curious as to why you have to fight it.

That's a false bit of info from the Liminality Easter Eggs. Cubia was created when the bracelet was. It got bigger as Kite DD'd more and more crap.

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:59 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote: That's a false bit of info from the Liminality Easter Eggs. Cubia was created when the bracelet was. It got bigger as Kite DD'd more and more crap.

And your proof of that is where?

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:02 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote: That's a false bit of info from the Liminality Easter Eggs. Cubia was created when the bracelet was. It got bigger as Kite DD'd more and more crap.
And your proof of that is where?

Destroying the bracelet destroyed Cubia.

It was already proven by people to be false. The Liminality Easter Eggs are noncanon information written by a bunch of people before the games were even released.

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:06 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote: Destroying the bracelet destroyed Cubia.

It was already proven by people to be false. The Liminality Easter Eggs are noncanon information written by a bunch of people before the games were even released.

That doesn't give me any proof. I'm going with the info I got off the freakin .hack DVD, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to. And if destroying the Braclet destroyed Cubia, than there is no way that the thing in the trailor is Cubia since, as you said, Cubia was destroyed...

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:07 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote: Destroying the bracelet destroyed Cubia.

It was already proven by people to be false. The Liminality Easter Eggs are noncanon information written by a bunch of people before the games were even released.
That doesn't give me any proof. I'm going with the info I got off the freakin .hack DVD, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to. And if destroying the Braclet destroyed Cubia, than there is no way that the thing in the trailor is Cubia since, as you said, Cubia was destroyed...

With a new means of Data Draining, comes a chance for another Cubia. No one said it's the same one.

mr.classybear · Post by **mr.classybear** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:08 pm

That stuff from the eatser eggs is false( not everthying, but the cubia part is, it even says so on wiki. What you posted is exactly what it says on wiki, and right above it, it says. Validity: FALSE

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:10 pm

mr.classybear wrote:From what i kno, the stuff the other guy said is wrong, i read that stuff of Wiki, the stuff about Cubia being a good guy and all, and im pretty sure above it it says FALSE.

That's correct. Look on the .hack//WIKI. I doubt anyone has "missed" it, since they've been working on that page quite diligently.

Also, Aura tried to prevent Kite from destroying Cubia because the bracelet would be destroyed as a result.

Rental Daughter · Post by **Rental Daughter** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:10 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:With a new means of Data Draining, comes a chance for another Cubia. No one said it's the same one.

O__O I never thought of it that way.

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:12 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:With a new means of Data Draining, comes a chance for another Cubia. No one said it's the same one.

Oh? So what yer saying is that the Cubia system that Morganna created has made a new Cubia to counter the new threats? That's what I've been saying this whole time...

mr.classybear wrote:That stuff from the eatser eggs is false, what you posted is exactly what it says on wiki, and right above it, it says. Validity: FALSE

Wikipedia is not always right...

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:15 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:With a new means of Data Draining, comes a chance for another Cubia. No one said it's the same one.
Oh? So what yer saying is that the Cubia system that Morganna created has made a new Cubia to counter the new threats? That's what I've been saying this whole time...

mr.classybear wrote:That stuff from the eatser eggs is false, what you posted is exactly what it says on wiki, and right above it, it says. Validity: FALSE
Wikipedia is not always right...

Morganna did not make Cubia. Cubia was a neutral entity.

When it's on the .hack//WIKI, then it's almost 99% bound to be correct. There's a difference between Wikipedia and .hack//WIKI.

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:18 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:Morganna did not make Cubia. Cubia was a neutral entity.

When it's on the .hack//WIKI, then it's almost 99% bound to be correct. There's a difference between Wikipedia and .hack//WIKI.

If Morganna didn't create Cubia, Cubia would not exist in the first place.

The difference isn't very large since it's still hosted by wikipedia and is still just a bunch of people's opinions and thoughts of what they think is true.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:22 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:Morganna did not make Cubia. Cubia was a neutral entity.

When it's on the .hack//WIKI, then it's almost 99% bound to be correct. There's a difference between Wikipedia and .hack//WIKI.
If Morganna didn't create Cubia, Cubia would not exist in the first place.

The difference isn't very large since it's still hosted by wikipedia and is still just a bunch of people's opinions and thoughts of what they think is true.

Cubia is the shadow of the bracelet. The bracelet created it.

It's not a bunch of people with opinions. Everything placed there by the more active members and moderators is factual.

mr.classybear · Post by **mr.classybear** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:24 pm

well im not sure if this would be proof of Cubia being the shadow, but, inside Cubia is a darker looking Kite, Kites wearign the bracelet, and Cubia has Kite in him, if Cubia really just tries to stop hackers or whatever, how come Kite is in his stomach?

Maive · Post by **Maive** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:25 pm

Doesn't Aura even say that in the games? "The Shadow of the Bracelet, The Ying to the Yang." or Something like that.

I would think Ovan's AIDA would keep the trend and be called Bertha or Ermintrude or some sort of old name.

Doesn't it say on the Terminal Disk too?

Skeithwannabe · Post by **Skeithwannabe** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:25 pm

Well I once put skeith was the only Phase that has appeared in the anime and it got deleted and it was true he is the only one who has actually appeared in the animes and if Cubia was truely destroyed he wouldn't have been absorbed into the system again

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:28 pm

mr.classybear wrote:well im not sure if this would be proof of Cubia being the shadow, but, inside Cubia is a darker looking Kite, Kites wearign the bracelet, and Cubia has Kite in him, if Cubia really just tries to stop hackers or whatever, how come Kite is in his stomach?

That's there to simply represent that he is Kite's antiexistance.

Aura does say "Shadow of the Bracelet".

Like I said, it doesn't have to be the same Cubia as the one the original bracelet manifested.

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:29 pm

EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:Morganna did not make Cubia. Cubia was a neutral entity.

When it's on the .hack//WIKI, then it's almost 99% bound to be correct. There's a difference between Wikipedia and .hack//WIKI.
If Morganna didn't create Cubia, Cubia would not exist in the first place.

The difference isn't very large since it's still hosted by wikipedia and is still just a bunch of people's opinions and thoughts of what they think is true.

God you are stubborn. The .hack//ANALYSIS fanbook (published only in Japan) EXPLICTLY stated that the Liminalty Easter Eggs were false and non-canon.

Cubia doesn't work for the system. He is an ANTI-EXISTENCE. He exists only to opose the existence that manifests him.He is composed of the negative data produced by a DD, he only gained true manifestation when Kite DD'd skeith, and each phase made him stronger because all the phases had a crapp load data.

Get it? Got it? Good.

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:29 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:Cubia is the shadow of the bracelet. The bracelet created it.

It's not a bunch of people with opinions. Everything placed there by the more active members and moderators is factual.

If that were true than Cubia would already have a form before the defeat of Skeith.

Oh I'm sorry, so it's the opinions of a few. But still only opinions, nothing really factual... Nothing you can say will get me to think the things that they put onto the .hack//LIMINALITY are false.. So let's just drop the whole thing.

Fragments.beta wrote:God you are stubborn. The .hack//ANALYSIS fanbook (published only in Japan) EXPLICTLY stated that the Liminalty Easter Eggs were false and non-canon.

Cubia doesn't work for the system. He is an ANTI-EXISTENCE. He exists only to opose the existence that manifests him.He is composed of the negative data produced by a DD, he only gained true manifestation when Kite DD'd skeith, and each phase made him stronger because all the phases had a crapp load data.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Unless you can show me that, I'm not going to believe it untill I see it.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:31 pm

He just needed the extra jump to reveal itself to Kite.

You underestimate the knowledge of the Wiki's team.

That's not made up. .hack//ANALYSIS is canon, Liminality's Easter Eggs were not. Issue closed.

I agree, let's drop this before we get into anything personal.

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:41 pm

Want proof? .hack//G.U. Interim Report Disk File 07, its devoted to Cubia. Look it up in youtube. It clearly says that Cubia is an Anti-existence and not an anit-hacker program.