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ilona~POW · Post by **ilona~POW** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:40 pm

While I ave my own oppinion on the first and last of your paragraphs, I would most definatly have to agree without a doubt with your second, about possessions and the such.

*high fives for opinions*

wave killer · Post by **wave killer** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:55 pm

This is only my basic view on morals, so don't take it so seriously. If I offend anyone in any way then I'm sorry it's how I think. If you don't like it, tough luck.

Morals: I don't believe morals are degrading, they're changing. If you compare today's world with that of Puritan America, you'll see that alot has changed since then. Back then if you so much as dressed different you would be hanged, but now the owrst that can happen to you is being shout at by your parents. So society isn't falling apart, it's just changing with the times. Even 'delinquents' know there's a line between right or wrong.

If I could change the world for the better, it would be that people would never take things so serious as go on protests about it. Look I don't care if your gay, dating someone over aged, or are from a different religion. You have your views and I have mine; so don't tell me what's best and what's not, I can make that choice myself.

Material: Let just get this out in the open; every human is selfish. They will always expect something when giving away something. Whether it be a christmas present or an act of kindness, you will always want something back.

So my view on this would be like Umbra's. Be thankful you have something, and haven't lost everything.

Sex: While I may not like the fact of teenagers having sex, it's not my right to tell them what to do. If it's what both partners want, then I won't get in their way. If it was up to me what they should do, then they wouldn't have a free will. But even then I would only tell them to do what they think is right.

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:20 pm

I strongly believe sex to be a sacred act. But because I am an American, I also think everyone should be allowed to make their own decisions. I think this so-called immorality is a small price to pay in return for having the freedom to live your own life.

Essence of Transcendence · Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:37 pm

Akuta wrote:
The Essence of Transcende wrote:ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?
That's extremely irrelevant. A wish list isn't a "give me this" list. It's an "this is what i would like to have" list.

As for the rest of your post, i'll try to translate it for my brain later. Too tired right now.
To the first two lines though, i can say that you are saying you're better than everyone else. I'm pretty sure i saw a "i'm not like that" somewhere in the big chunk.

Anyways, i'll get back to ya later.

let me make this perfectly clear I never say that i am better then anyone else so just lay off the hole idea of me saying that i am better every one else i just voiced my opinion is that ok????????

o this is my lat post on this thread so that is that

Osamu · Post by **Osamu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:41 pm

marthwmaster wrote:I strongly believe sex to be a sacred act. But because I am an American, I also think everyone should be allowed to make their own decisions. I think this so-called immorality is a small price to pay in return for having the freedom to live your own life.

That's because you are a pimp, marth.

Umbra wrote:You shouldn't worry about morals if you disagree with them, the fact that you do tells you that not everyone thinks in such a way.

It's when you don't find anything wrong with at least someone's morals that you should worry, as there will inevitably be people that play society's role as the 'delinquent'.

For the argument of material possessions I will say that all humans have material possessions, it is now impossible to live life without them, as you'd be arrested when found without any clothes. My opinion on the matter is that you should treat material possessions as a privilege rather than a right, and enjoy them.

As for premarital sex, It'd be rather hypocritical for me to say its wrong, but in all honesty, I don't believe that. I was born to unmarried parents and so were my two brothers, and my parents only got married a few years ago. My own belief if that sex is sacred, unfortunately I've never had the chance to 'give myself' to someone in such a manner, but I don't believe you have to wait until after marriage to have sex with someone.

Umbra's posts have so much intelligence in them.

Anyways, human intelligence phails.

Akuta · Post by **Akuta** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:51 pm

The Essence of Transcende wrote:
Akuta wrote:
The Essence of Transcende wrote:ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?
That's extremely irrelevant. A wish list isn't a "give me this" list. It's an "this is what i would like to have" list.

As for the rest of your post, i'll try to translate it for my brain later. Too tired right now.
To the first two lines though, i can say that you are saying you're better than everyone else. I'm pretty sure i saw a "i'm not like that" somewhere in the big chunk.

Anyways, i'll get back to ya later.
let me make this perfectly clear I never say that i am better then anyone else so just lay off the hole idea of me saying that i am better every one else i just voiced my opinion is that ok????????

You should try to calm down.

they are greedy aand have not self control. i can safely say that i am not like this (and if i was i would shoot myself) people are jsut so stupied.

That is an example of what i'm talking about.
You should try to calm down though. Wouldn't want this to turn into bashing.

Osamu · Post by **Osamu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:53 pm

Akuta wrote:
The Essence of Transcende wrote:
Akuta wrote:
The Essence of Transcende wrote:ok i will as you this one question abot people being greedy. How long is your wish list for X-mas and how expensive are the things on it?
That's extremely irrelevant. A wish list isn't a "give me this" list. It's an "this is what i would like to have" list.

As for the rest of your post, i'll try to translate it for my brain later. Too tired right now.
To the first two lines though, i can say that you are saying you're better than everyone else. I'm pretty sure i saw a "i'm not like that" somewhere in the big chunk.

Anyways, i'll get back to ya later.
let me make this perfectly clear I never say that i am better then anyone else so just lay off the hole idea of me saying that i am better every one else i just voiced my opinion is that ok????????
You should try to calm down.

And spell better. Ex Dee.

Akuta · Post by **Akuta** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:57 pm

Narayu wrote:And spell better. Ex Dee.

As much as it would help bringing his point across, i don't think it's wise to post like that. It'll just make him angry.

atoli-chan · Post by **atoli-chan** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:08 pm

it bothers me

ilona~POW · Post by **ilona~POW** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:39 pm

BIG TEXT IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

Morals and such do change as the times change, but come on, there has to be a certain degree of change and I really don't like the amount of negativity and hatred in todays people is the kind of change, nor degree of change that is needed, as in making this sort of behavior mainstream and acceptable.

Maromi · Post by **Maromi** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:09 pm

The Essence of Transcende: I would read your entire last post, but I had trouble reading and understanding the first few lines.

Not that this is addressing anyone's post, in particular, but being married doesn't automatically make sex sacred. You can be unmarried and still hold sex sacred. People seem to think that once it's official on paper, it's automatically "right."

I believe promiscuous and casual sex is wrong. I don't believe pre-marital sex is wrong.

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:33 am

The society has declined in all aspects as possible.....

marthwmaster · Post by **marthwmaster** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:24 am

I think the biggest thing to watch out for is getting married just so you can have sex. Naturally, sex will be a big part of the married relationship, but it is not something that by itself can make a marriage work. I think you should enter a marriage only after telling yourself that you'll never have sex with the person. If you still want to spend your life with them after thinking that way for awhile, then it's more likely that you're not being guided by feelings of lust.

SatelliteFenrir · Post by **SatelliteFenrir** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:01 pm

I haven't read the other posts, but I continue on.

Well I sort of, and sort of don't. I hate the trends and the shallow people, but we've always had that, right?

And most of the people others call "disturbed" such as gore fanatics and "occultists" are usually the most redeemable souls out there.

I just hate most people. Misanthropy was made because our people are so incredibly moronic. I could go on and on about this, but I won't, considering it would probably offend most of the people here.

ilona~POW · Post by **ilona~POW** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:05 pm

SatelliteFenrir wrote:I haven't read the other posts, but I continue on.

Well I sort of, and sort of don't. I hate the trends and the shallow people, but we've always had that, right?

And most of the people others call "disturbed" such as gore fanatics and "occultists" are usually the most redeemable souls out there.

I just hate most people. Misanthropy was made because our people are so incredibly moronic. I could go on and on about this, but I won't, considering it would probably offend most of the people here.

O.O

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:22 pm

marthwmaster wrote:I think the biggest thing to watch out for is getting married just so you can have sex. Naturally, sex will be a big part of the married relationship, but it is not something that by itself can make a marriage work. I think you should enter a marriage only after telling yourself that you'll never have sex with the person. If you still want to spend your life with them after thinking that way for awhile, then it's more likely that you're not being guided by feelings of lust.

I agree. A real relationship is something not found in today's world. Its hard work, more so you are supporting someone other than yourself.

To me, you take care of your wife, tell her you love her everyday and mean it. Then at the end of the day, there is something to go back to after work. Thats the joy of it all.

But telling someone you really care for them is looked down upon. Then again, theres always alot of ways to read this. My youngest sister, age 15, for instance is stalked by a 19 year old who is "in love" with her. Everyone in this house knows what hes after, but my sister lets her guard down and allows him to wrap his fingers around her. Too bad for him my Dad was in the marines heh...

At any rate find someone worth getting to. And when you do, when you find out you two really do love each other. It will be like heaven on Earth.

Aera · Post by **Aera** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:14 pm

i pretty much summed this whole thread up in my little rant on how mentally ill society is on the making out thread.

ilona~POW · Post by **ilona~POW** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:29 pm

Balian wrote:you can tell our world is headed to destruction when a 14 year old makes a thread about making out and says he likes it rough

lawlz, that's sick haha, sorry, got me all choked up. Yeh, "you know our world is headed to destruction when", 11 yr. olds go shopping for thongs with thier father and or mother.....ew, I think i just barfed a lil' in my mouth.

cadence · Post by **cadence** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:40 am

ilona~POW wrote:
Balian wrote:you can tell our world is headed to destruction when a 14 year old makes a thread about making out and says he likes it rough
lawlz, that's sick haha, sorry, got me all choked up. Yeh, "you know our world is headed to destruction when", 11 yr. olds go shopping for thongs with thier father and or mother.....ew, I think i just barfed a lil' in my mouth.

14 yo's making out and 11 yo's shopping for thongs are quite different issues, and the latter is unrrealistic. I'm sure there are the odd handfulls of 11 yo thong wearers, but just because you saw it on South Park or wherever doesn't make it true.

Speaking of the morals of 100 years ago, you might remember a time when 14 year olds were married and making babies, and that was well over 100 years ago. Morals have really gone downhill since medieval times.

cadence · Post by **cadence** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:57 pm

So if it was the norm then and not now, or in other words morally acceptable then but not now, wouldn't that mean that morals are fluid and do, in fact, change over time?

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