Lios or Apeiron?

Tolf · Post by **Tolf** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:37 pm

I'm unaware if this subject has been covered or not, but I've yet to find it on the search engine so I'm trying it out...

If Apeiron is the King of Light, then why is Lios supposedly also the name of the King of Light? Theories? Ideas? It's been nagging at me for a couple years.

YouTube · Post by **Erroneous** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:56 pm

Play into the first part of .hack//Mutation, Helba explains it perfectly then.

Tolf · Post by **Tolf** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:17 am

I've played all four games... but I don't remember anything on this besides Helba mentioning Lios being the name for the King of Light in the Epitaph.

rare_hunter_mistral · Post by **rare_hunter_mistral** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:41 am

try readin' .hack another birth.

Tolf · Post by **Tolf** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:53 am

I've read that one too, again, it only refers to Lios being a codename for Apeiron, and yet again, it doesn't explain how the name Lios has anything to do with Apeiron.

VKV · Post by **VKV** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:30 am

Unfortunately I don't remember this well but there was conversation about this at somepoint in the past and there was a conclusion that "Lios" means light in some language or smoething like that.
I just can't remember what topic it was and when. Maybe you should ask from Kuukai or Shinsou Wotan.
They might know.

Tolf · Post by **Tolf** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:09 am

You mean like Helios? Okay, actually that makes more sense considering that, well, another name for Helios is Hyperion. Thank you for your help.

robinton19 · Post by **robinton19** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:58 pm

Lios is noted in the Epitaph, as is Apeiron... Apeiron is mentioned as the "King Of Light"... remember Apeiron from the first game? He even warns you about Helba... coincidence???

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:48 pm

Lios is the word for "light" in the Epitaph, it's from Old Norse. Apeiron is the name of the king of light, and "Lios" is the name of what he is king of... This got lost in the English translation... In fact, like all references to Old Norse are, even in G.U. where words from like half the Alvissmal show up...

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:27 pm

Kuukai wrote:Lios is the word for "light" in the Epitaph, it's from Old Norse. Apeiron is the name of the king of light, and "Lios" is the name of what he is king of... This got lost in the English translation... In fact, like all references to Old Norse are, even in G.U. where words from like half the Alvissmal show up...

Oddly, though, this only seems to be the case in the Japanese version of the Epitaph. In the one sample we have of the "original" German, the word used was Licht, which is perfectly ordinary German.