Pros and cons

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Re: Mindless rant

Post by dominus_draconis »

.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:
Marioshinobi wrote: Oh no He's releasing his Curse seal Sasuke-I meant his tattoo markings Haseo!!
A bit off topic, but isn't it unfair for people to constantly compre Haseo (as a character) to Sasuke just because he has the same dub actor? Things like that person hating Yuri Lowenthal because s/he hates Sasuke has been really bugging me lately.

Sorry if that wasn't your intent, but. <<;
I had a friend compare them in terms of look and character a couple months back when we first saw roots, and e had no idea it was gonna be the same VA in the dub :P
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Pros
Better battle system
Better Graphics
Can interact with forums
Arena Fights
Can PKK
Motorcycle over grunties
Can run a guild
Replayable Avatar Battles
Remarkable Soundtrack
Some of the best VA around(besides making Alkaid sound like a boy!)
Larger Root Towns
Actual side quests this time
Alchmey
Big Ending
The best story since the last games

Cons
Can't update gear unless at a certain level
Party Commands have been stripped down
Avatar fights being to easy (Besides Azure Flame God, he was difficult)
Gaspard becoming the next Piros
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Post by dominus_draconis »

Pros:
deeper storyline than the original
incredible battle system
pkk is fun
no biological dungeons(they were cool, but, the lack of background music sucked(on the good side, they reminded me of Grandia II))

cons
piros(not gay-bashing(seeing as how I am gay myself and also piros is straight) his character just gets under my skin)
needs even more avatar battles :P(not so much a con as me being greedy)
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whisper wrote:<.< >.>

Pros
The Graphics
Steam Bike
Death Grunty(uber Kawaii)
A Majority of the Wallpapers for the 'Desktop'
...

Cons
The fact that Haseo's voice sounded to much like Sasuke's (when listening to Haseo I didn't see Haseo I saw Sasuke ><)
Atoli's voice at times
Alkaid's voice
Gaspard (fat goat must DIE!)
...
Adding this to 'Pros' list:
Alchemy(Hoorah!)
Quests(Love the 'Text' items >.>;)


Adding this to 'Cons' list:

Repth's recovery was lowered from 150 to 100 and the sp it took to cast the spell was raised to 16...it was 10 in the first games right? Been a while since I picked them up <.<;

When Haseo used Repth his voice changes to a high-pitched 'screech'...at first I though Gaspard was crying o.o;;)
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Post by blackphoenix »

dominus_draconis wrote:Pros:
deeper storyline than the original
I actually find it rather similar, seeing the main character's friend gets DD'ed and falls comatose and the hero has to find the "cure"


I personally hate the mecha grunty, but like the death grunty.
I also like the atmosphere of the game (more "realistic" as a mmorpg)
-haven't seen this one yet, so-
sell items at the guild shop for good GP
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Post by Bulletcatcher »

Pros:

-Fast Paced Gameplay
-Avatar battles FTW
-Better music, the OST sounds as epic as the story
-News Short Movies
-Not one... but TWO forums.
-Smoother graphics
-Great Voice Acting (for most characters anyway)
-Varied fighting styles
-Deeper Story
-Longer Gameplay
-Hearing Yuri Lowenthal scream "Skeith"
-Crashing bike into anything you can find
-Much more dramatic than the first games, some moments even made a friend of mine cry
-Mac Anu is huge, yet easy to navigate
-PVP
-Avatar Rematches (especially Azure Flame God :D)
-Easy to level and get ahead of the game
-Data draining- sometimes tough, but fun

Cons:

-The annoyance you have to go through when urging Haseo to say something that actually helps him
-Replay value is decent, but makes the gameplay seem monotonous post-main story
-Changing weapons during battle is slow
-No good rapid weapons late game
-Main game is too short when you get too ahead of opponents
-Gaspard sounds like Spongebob
-Alkaid sounds like a drunk
-Sometimes, Atoli sounds a little...eh...not too sure
-Not enough equipment to actually keep you playing after you finished the story
-Why can they DD me automatically when I'm at above 50% when I can't even when I've gotten them to 0?...

To me, it was the best and most well put together .hack story yet, made even better by its soundtrack and nice list of varied characters.
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Post by dominus_draconis »

Haseo reminds me of Ryudo from Grandia II
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Con: Tri'edge's english VA is Kite's English VA. How lame. Now he sounds all whiny instead of all cool zombie moaning. It was terrible. I hope he never speaks or if he does, he takes a page from lycoris and use textboxes or something.

Another Con: Why does Skeith sound like Darth Vader at one point in the game? James Earl Jones! It kinda erked me to hear Skeith sound like that. He still sounds ok, its just strange to me.

Skeith-"Haseo, I am your Avatar."
Haseo-"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!....oh, wait a minute YES!!!"
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k-su wrote:Con: Tri'edge's english VA is Kite's English VA. How lame. Now he sounds all whiny instead of all cool zombie moaning. It was terrible. I hope he never speaks or if he does, he takes a page from lycoris and use textboxes or something.

Another Con: Why does Skeith sound like Darth Vader at one point in the game? James Earl Jones! It kinda erked me to hear Skeith sound like that. He still sounds ok, its just strange to me.

Skeith-"Haseo, I am your Avatar."
Haseo-"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!....oh, wait a minute YES!!!"
A. Kite: *Myyyyooooooan...*

The next Volume shows Skeith with a black helmet attached to a voice box and a glowing red sword.

I agree. It's so pointless that they changed the VA for Kite, Skeith, and Mia. They don't even say anything...

EDIT: Oh yeah,  Skeith talks at one point...I forgot.
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Post by d07_h4ck_3xp3r7_01 »

pro:

steam bike (although it doesn't seem fast to me >_>)
graphics
you can pk
avatar battles
not as many annoying characters
its got some good funny material
rengeki
the switching over of different weapons in battle
its no longer just "to the dungeon and defeat the monster"

Con:
gaspard
all of the news and crap
dungeons are the same basically
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Post by JamesBeardIV »

Pros

- Trading is alot easier
- Quests
- choice of two different types of weapons
- Combat system
- Pi's Butt

Cons

- Had to run to a gamestop store just to buy the overpriced Special Edition
- Those damn chests with only 3 seconds to disarm
- The fact that it is probrobly twice as confusing if you havnt watched Roots
- I miss Mia too.
- Only one blasted cleric
- Haseo is such a dick
- Those damn chests with only 3 seconds to disarm
- Hold & Release broad swords
- Nothing good unlocked from playing the first 4 .hack games
- Avatar battles
- No bracelet with Data Drain
- No exp for low level monsters.
- Awakenings
- Useless weapons until level is high enough to use them
- No Tohta or Sakisaka in the game.
- Chims (aka busy work and annoying chim ninjas)
- Death Grunty
- Doppleganger
- No Mia.
- No Liminality'ish DVD
- The news boards full of losers whining about global warming.
- Could use more voice actors for NPCs other then grunts and "oh no's" for quest scenes and thinking thoughts.
- Beating the snot out of enemies in the arena only to learn that despite the fact that I killed two of them in seconds and now pounding the third one, they are actually all alive and beating the snot out of me until my avatar pops out and kills all the enemies.
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Can trade more than 3 different items in 1 transaction :)
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Post by Dot-Hack-Rocks »

Pros:
I like the battling style.
Customizing the weapons/armour.
Avatars.
New classes.
Player Killing.

Cons.
Too many cut scences!!!
Getting up in the Ranks.
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Post by Cless »

Forgot to add something.

Con:
1. I heard that you had to solve a puzzle to advance further in a dungeon but I didn't see anything like that while playing volume 1.
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Post by Atropos »

Kuukai wrote:
laysh wrote:Dislike:
Not able to change my ally's gear.
You can't? I thought you could. At the very least I'm sure you can in two.
Don't quote me on this [TV's taken atm, so no G.U. in the background], but I'm pretty sure if you go to Equipment and hit {R1} or {L1} you can change into your teammates equipment lists ... think I've done it before at one point
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Post by Kazeki »

Like: Everything?

Dislike: The fact that it's for PS2 and not Game Cube T_T.... why did i get a game cube... damnit... I'm soooo sad T_T I rue the day I ever got game cube *sigh*.
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Post by blackphoenix »

Wow, nice to see this got stickied :)
Cless wrote:Forgot to add something.

Con:
1. I heard that you had to solve a puzzle to advance further in a dungeon but I didn't see anything like that while playing volume 1.
IIRC, that's what  Old man Antares sends you through (same for the character advancement quest)
I also like the "fanarts" and the guild expansion upon completion of the book of 1000's

Dislike
(yeah I know this is really picky, but)
Skeith's avatar doesn't follow the consistancy from the original Skeith (referring to the placement of the "bracelet" for data drain...in the originals it's on the left "arm", but in GU, it's on the right) :?
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Are you stupid!?!

Post by Keyaki »

laysh wrote:Im glad Endrance is a guy. ⌐.⌐

Con:
Endrance didn't join your group >.< I was hopeing he would : (
Also only 3 area looks. kinda got old after awhile.
Why the hell would you think that Endramcew ould join Canard!?!
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Re: Are you stupid!?!

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Keyaki wrote:
laysh wrote:Im glad Endrance is a guy. ⌐.⌐

Con:
Endrance didn't join your group >.< I was hopeing he would : (
Also only 3 area looks. kinda got old after awhile.
Why the hell would you think that Endramcew ould join Canard!?!
Whhhaaa?? If Endrance isn't the personification of social newbie helper than I don't know what is!!

/sarcasm >.>;
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Post by marthwmaster »

laysh wrote:Sadly no : ( I hear pplsaying in 2 you can after you get 3rd form. I really wish you could in this game instead of puseing the game and manualy putting on twinblades.
He was quoting a different thing you said.
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