.hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Kuukai » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:02 am

Tolby wrote:Maybe I am underestimating the fanbase, I just personally haven't run into many people that knows much outside their area of expertise. In other words, they might know all the lost grounds, but they won't know Blackrose's real name. Or vice versa. Or they'll think Kite and Blackrose from the games are Rena and Shugo, even though they can recite the G.U. games by heart. Or maybe they have looked up the information, but they are looking at the events as simple information because they didn't experience it for themselves. Experiencing it is more valuable then just reading or hearing about it.
*GASP* You haven't read my dinosaur treatise?
http://www.dothackers.net/forums/viewto ... 61#p400561
I've done a lot of serious debate about it too, but this is probably the only one that's even remotely fun to read, and there's an element of truth to it. You have a point about understanding the series as a whole, but at the same time, when deciding whether or not Link is totally out there you could say that all you really need to know is .hack at its weirdest. Dinosaur. End of argument.
Tolby wrote:And actually thats why I would say ignore people who haven't been with .hack the whole time. Not that they can't come up with their own opinions and discussion, its just that when fans with so much knowledge on the entire series are debating on rather or not something fits in the .hack world, and each side is making good and valid points, its hard to take the opinion of someone who has only be exposed to a fraction of .hack.
But, couldn't you say no one here is qualified based on those criteria? Reading .hack//Epitaph of the Twilight is essential for understanding how teleportation fits in alongside long-established canon, but no one here has read it. I myself have only read the first few chapters but I wouldn't say that qualifies me for much. I really should get around to finishing it, I'm a shamefully lazy reader. But anyway, my point is this: aren't we all pretty handicapped in evaluating Link?

EDIT: Looking over d5t's FB thread about this, it still seems to me that most of the respondees have gone through most of the .hack media. Like I was trying to say before, I think the kind of person who would join our FB group is a more intense, reliable kind of fan than the "Lol why isn't Tsukasa a Night Elf Mohawk?" people on Youtube. I think their opinions about Link matter. Well, I guess we'll know more as we get more responses...

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Tolby » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:40 am

But, couldn't you say no one here is qualified based on those criteria? Reading .hack//Epitaph of the Twilight is essential for understanding how teleportation fits in alongside long-established canon, but no one here has read it. I myself have only read the first few chapters but I wouldn't say that qualifies me for much. I really should get around to finishing it, I'm a shamefully lazy reader. But anyway, my point is this: aren't we all pretty handicapped in evaluating Link?


Yes, that is right. Thats why I've said on more than one occasion to reserve judgment. Yea, I understand that there is a lot of information out, and theres the excitement. Its only fair to want to talk about it and voice your opinion, but keep it reasonable.

However, the more experienced you are the more likely your opinion is to have reason behind it. Usually anyways. I'm not saying I'm gonna turn down the opinion of everyone who hasn't experienced every single part of .hack. Just the less they've experienced the less likely they know what they're talking about. It more like a grading system. You don't need a perfect 100 score to pass, but you need a more then a 17 or a 26. Not to say that someone who has a 17 couldn't answer something that someone with a 93 couldn't, just I know who is gonna be my study buddy for the next exam.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Kuukai » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:15 pm

Well, looking at the FB thread again it still seems like every member of the group I was originally talking about is at least somewhere in the 80s...

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Postby |<!73 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:25 pm

Mumbles something about the gap between book/manga releases always saved by the next game. Fricken two year licensing. Yes pointless babble, but there's a question I've been wondering ever since Link's announcement. (Fact had you guys not been talking about it I might have forgotten.) The series is suppose to be an all inclusive work right? That works for most things, but am I taking it too literally when I ask about alcor, gnu and epitaph of twilight?

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Kuukai » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:26 pm

Alcor and Epitaph of the Twilight are both confirmed to be in it. No word one way or another on GnU, but it wasn't in that giant list in Famitsu. But yeah, 95% of .hack *is* guaranteed to be in there, with full voicing, and there are over 1000 event demos in the game. Add cutscenes and ingame stuff and that's plenty of time for all the returning characters to shine. It'll be cool to hear many of them for the first time...

Also, back to the speculation thing, I was thinking about it again, and I think Link will probably be fine in that department. Link kicks off the new .hack season, but for the rest of the year threads of the story continue in anime and manga. There'll still be speculation, just like before.

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Postby lastadeptrouge » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:00 am

honestly I have been reading all seventeen pages LOL and what trully bothers me of link is that the decided to crap out on the character design. The whole school uniform thing doesnt really bug me what bugs me is the character they decided to go with. Scaling a game's character from Kite-pretty cool, Haseo-bad ass, to Tokio-digimon character ripoff is whats really killing it for me. Not to mention the cutscenes.....(screams in horror.) Jesum crow what the hell happened. .Hack sign, roots, and other animes and mangas looked pretty good. However the moment I saw the few snipits of cutscenes in Links I wanted to have someone analyze the cyberconnect2 crews skull.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Kuukai » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:40 am

What are you talking about? The cutscenes look just like XXXX and Twilight Knights. That might be a problem itself, but is it possible you're confusing this with the opening animation? It's pretty much the first .hack game opening animation that isn't just a rehash of in-game cutscenes though, so I say awesome. That and I like the art style.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Tolby » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:29 am

I feel horrible, but during these earthquakes and tsunamis, I'm worried about my game. Someone say they feel/felt the same, if only for a second.

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Postby renadeles » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:15 pm

I know personally I do feel good about the game so far, the demo was not perfect but I enjoyed it overall. I don't voice my opinion too much here because I don't see the point. Y'all who hate it kinda seem over the top with that hate, if I may be frank.

I don't understand the PSP hate (I've owned a PSP for a long time now, still like it more then my DS even) nor the hate for a game not out yet. You can put a LOT on a UMD, and it can look very pretty. I am sure I'll have a lot to drool at :)

Also my suspension of disbelief is quite strong when it comes to .hack. Yes it has been less fantasy-esque with it's sci fi, but that's okay. New is good and all that.


Also very sad to see such bashing of fans. Not all fans are like that, and to be so prejudice can lead to being elitist.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby .hack//AnimechaZero » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:10 pm

It would be a total bummer, if they ended the series. But ide be willing to bet that, like a lot of games, if //LINK sells well ide imagine they world at the very least put plans in for something new in the .hack world (ie, new anime, manga, game)

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Postby MizuTakishima » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:18 pm

.hack//AnimechaZero wrote:It would be a total bummer, if they ended the series. But ide be willing to bet that, like a lot of games, if //LINK sells well ide imagine they world at the very least put plans in for something new in the .hack world (ie, new anime, manga, game)


I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that they'll at least come out with a new manga or something, after .hack//Link that is. Maybe a new anime but I can't remember...and what was the one with the funny name again?

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby .hack//AnimechaZero » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:26 pm

MizuTakishima wrote:
.hack//AnimechaZero wrote:It would be a total bummer, if they ended the series. But ide be willing to bet that, like a lot of games, if //LINK sells well ide imagine they world at the very least put plans in for something new in the .hack world (ie, new anime, manga, game)


I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that they'll at least come out with a new manga or something, after .hack//Link that is. Maybe a new anime but I can't remember...and what was the one with the funny name again?


Im sorry, I completely disregarded the new (potential manga/anime. I meant afterwards, potentially a new story line and whatnot.

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Postby TheSorrow » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:04 pm

MizuTakishima wrote:I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that they'll at least come out with a new manga or something, after .hack//Link that is. Maybe a new anime but I can't remember...and what was the one with the funny name again?


They announced a new anime after LINK...but i think it'll be like, let's say, Unison or Returner. Maybe more than 1 episode, but still, it'll be just like that...an anime that follows the story of the game and leads to a final conclusion.

And the other was that .Hack//ChupChopCase or whatever...the thingy with the very funny name, and i think it was a manga or a novel meant to describe the end of R:1, Mia being raped by Amagi, and a new Piros character. Either way, i can't really take it seriously with that name >3>''

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Keyaki » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:16 pm

There is also .Hack New Testament and Old Testament, or something like that

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Postby Anime Monkey » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:19 pm

Those are really just info books though that came with the Quarantine pack of .hack//Link. I mean, they're THE ultimate info books, but still.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Advent_Winter » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:59 pm

The only mystery that we seem to have no idea about, is .hack//X'over.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Tolby » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:22 am

I'm loving this game with all my heart and soul. I mean I have no idea whats going on so the story could kill the hell out of it. But man.. all the characters, reliving through my favorite .hack moments in a game, the cutscene style is awesome, everything is picture and text but still so much voice acting. The customization (I gots a kitty on my head), everything. I love this game. The art, the songs (of course), just everything.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby zaseo » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:39 pm

It seems Link didn't turn out to be an epic failure after all. I can't wait to play the game in English. Maybe if this becomes a greatest hit the series would continue on. I like the games more then the anime, or manga for obvious reasons.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Reioumu » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 am

I'm actually enjoying myself quite a lot with Link right now after beating the crap out of GU forever ago.

I hope it's not the final installment as I get addicted to .Hack games when I start playing them for some reason, but the preview for this game made me tear cause I didn't want it to end :(.

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Re: .hack//LINK to be the "final installment" of .hack

Postby Virgillius » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:34 am

I just want to ask something...
Will that announcement about EA Sports will affect the release of .hack//link in US?


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