Terminal Disc and Endrance?? Spoilers...

Skeith805 · Post by **Skeith805** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Before, many people have been going around saying how they believe Endrance is Elk. It could be. The clue most people went on was the fact that his cat's name was Mia. Now I know Yata said something might have happened to his cat in real life, but after watching the 6th Interim Report, it said that they destroyed Mia's character in order to extract Macha. And remember when Endrance said that he lost his cat once. What are your opinions.

(Support and constructive critizism and thoughtful input are appreciated)

scratchmyears · Post by **scratchmyears** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:51 pm

I think he's definitely intended to make you think of Elk. But they set it up so that he may be Elk, or he may not be Elk.. Its all a matter of interpretation. I'm willing to bet that it wont ever be clarified. They'll probably leave it up to you. I say he's Elk.. Lots of people are saying that Kuhn is Sieg. Its all speculation..

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:12 pm

Kuhn, Sieg? I heard that he was a R:1 player and couldn't think of anyone he could be. Except maybe is Kazu grew up to be a womanizer, but I forgot about Sieg. That works too. Hmm...Endrance. I hope the above poster is wrong. I want him to be Elk, but I would much rather them tell us if he is or not, even if he isn't.

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:12 pm

Yata never said that it could be his cat in RL he said he dosn't know what "Outside" ment. Personally im thinking he ment "The Black Box"

DeusGear · Post by **DeusGear** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:22 pm

From the wiki:

Later, when Elk meets Kite, Elk becomes jealous of him because of Mia's interest in Kite's data draining bracelet. Eventually, Elk's jealousy wanes as he realizes that Kite has no interest in "taking Mia away" and they become friends. Mia then begins her fatal transformation into the sixth Phase, Macha, which he and Kite both witness. In the end, Elk becomes a pivotal and important character. In the current game series(G.U.) Endrance is believed to be Elk by many fans. Endrance, who carrys a small cat on his shoulder, is also the user of the Macha avatar, referred to as "The Temptress". Elk is also age 13 during the events of the games, and syncs up to Endrance's age of 20, as .hack//G.U. takes place 7 years later. While this is only a theory, it seems to hold as he is heard saying something about Mia (many believe he is referring to his cat). Endrance is also voiced by Elk and Tsukasa's seiyuu.

Plus the way he looks in R1 looks exactly like in R2:

HaseoDeath · Post by **HaseoDeath** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:22 pm

People are still debating it? I thought it was already confirmed.. besides, like I've said before.. people don't do something for no reason.

Age, same color scheme, same voice actor [in Japanese], is connected to phase 6 macha, talks about losing "her" and calls the cat Mia... come on.. Edrance is ELK.

If we find out he's not Elk, then why the heck did the creators of .hack go to all the detail of making it seem obvious it's Elk.

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:28 pm

It's not proven beyond all doubt, but the preponderance of the evidence seems to indicate that it's true.

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:34 pm

Mia the cat could have just latched onto Endrance because he looks so much like Elk. The same reason she hung around Elk because he reminded her of Tsukasa.

TenSpeed12193 · Post by **TenSpeed12193** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:40 pm

yeah. either endrance is elk or Piroshi MAtsuyama wants u to remeber elk...

Pazuzu · Post by **Pazuzu** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:09 pm

Endrance's speeches in Volume 2 make it really obvious. Sold it for me, anyway.

Tolby · Post by **Tolby** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:46 am

Yeah, yeah, yea. If Endracne said "Hey, guess what? I'm Elk". Not a soul would be suprised, but it still hasn't been confirmed, meaning well.....it's not confirmed. Likely, but not 100% for sure.

Bryce_P · Post by **Bryce_P** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:42 am

i just really want to know why Endrance was austrlian...listen to him talk....you'll see it.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:43 am

HaseoDeath wrote:People are still debating it? I thought it was already confirmed.. besides, like I've said before.. people don't do something for no reason.

Yes they do. People put things in games and what not just for the hell of doing it. do you think that people at Cyber connect don't go look for what the fans are thinking? they've probably crossed this page before many times...

HaseoDeath wrote:Age, same color scheme, same voice actor [in Japanese], is connected to phase 6 macha, talks about losing "her" and calls the cat Mia... come on.. Edrance is ELK.

Um Same Color Scheme? Elk is ALL blue, Endrances is blue and PURPLE, its also a possibility that its coincidence that Mia is named that. Think of this, Macha was never evil towards Tsukasa, and same for when she was Mia, she was never mean towards Elk. The new Mia, is the link to the AIDA within Endrance, its manipulating him... the REAL Mia wouldn't manipulate Endrance if he was Elk. and if he was he'd spill his guts to Mia about being Elk and all this sappy stuff, he wouldn't be this total lax person, and especially wouldn't be fighting people if he got what he wanted which is Mia back.

HaseoDeath wrote:If we find out he's not Elk, then why the heck did the creators of .hack go to all the detail of making it seem obvious it's Elk.

Simple, gamers know what fans think since they do research on the fan opinion. So they can play with the story to trick fans and keep em in suspence. Also remember Hiroishi i believe stated "THESE ARE ALL NEW CHARACTERS!!" this does not mean all new PCs this means ALL NEW PEOPLE, NEW HUMANS! not the old players coming back with different PCs.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:51 am

The point of the AIDA known as Mia was that it was a fake... ¬_¬ It attached itself to Endrance and told him what to do whilst acting as a friend. It certainly seems strange that the AIDA would take the form of a cat and call itself Mia, but it could be coincidence.

As for all new characters...there's no way to tell if they meant all new PCs or all new players. Suffice to say that Kuhn, apparently, played The World R:1 and the fact that his name has yet to be revealed, unlike many other characters including Endrance, suggests that he is someone we know.

Endrance is still a mystery, I can easily imagine them making you think Endrance is Elk only to discover that he is a new player. I guess we'll find out when he sees Tri-Edge.

Bryce_P wrote:i just really want to know why Endrance was austrlian...listen to him talk....you'll see it.

I can't listen to anyone's voices until someone puts them on Youtube or some such site... ¬_¬

I heard off most people that he simply sounds a bit snobbish, though in all honesty I prefer the Australian accent to the American accent.

.hack//BICTIOUS · Post by **.hack//BICTIOUS** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:57 am

Yeah, I didn't notice an Australian accent, he just sounds snobbish. If anything, he's British.

.... Oh, dear, that came out wrong.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:09 pm

¬_¬ Snobbery is British?

I guess I'll have to forgive you for your ignorance, though I can tell you that there are probably more British accents than there are American accents. When you say British you mean an upper-class English accent.

I guess you'll have to wait for me to cast judgement, being the most British Brit here... XP

.hack//BICTIOUS · Post by **.hack//BICTIOUS** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:31 pm

It didn't come out the way I intended. ^^;; But yeah, I more or less meant that he sounds like he has a high-class English accent, that comes off as very snobby.

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:23 pm

HaseoDeath wrote:People are still debating it? I thought it was already confirmed.. besides, like I've said before.. people don't do something for no reason.

Age, same color scheme, same voice actor [in Japanese], is connected to phase 6 macha, talks about losing "her" and calls the cat Mia... come on.. Edrance is ELK.

If we find out he's not Elk, then why the heck did the creators of .hack go to all the detail of making it seem obvious it's Elk.

there are not enough proof. the possibility is still open.....

Age? anyone knows Elk´s age??

maybe the truth about Endrance (or Elk) must be a surprising one....So, the creators of .hack made we thinking about Endrance=Elk, only to eventually give us a shock......

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:30 pm

Umbra wrote:¬_¬ Snobbery is British?

I guess I'll have to forgive you for your ignorance, though I can tell you that there are probably more British accents than there are American accents. When you say British you mean an upper-class English accent.

I guess you'll have to wait for me to cast judgement, being the most British Brit here... XP

Sir Umbra, would you like to stay for a spot of tea and some crumpets? XP

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:08 pm

Crumpets aren't the staple for a Welsh boy... ¬_¬ But if you're buying, then I'd love to! XP Just as long as you don't butter my crumpets.

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Terminal Disc and Endrance?? Spoilers...

Terminal Disc and Endrance?? Spoilers...

yeah ur probably right