Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

[shugo_lover]

Sex that doesn't result in babies isn't evil, wrong, or immoral.
It's just animals being animals.

With that said.
If haveing sex that didn't result in babys was evil. Then anyone who used birth control and protection must be avil.

[_Tri-edge_]

@Zaseo, lol. Since when was masturbation "unatural" and "harmful"?

[Azure Knight]

@Zaseo, lol. Since when was masturbation "unatural" and "harmful"?

Ever since the Bible said it was, apparently.

[AuraTwilight]

If there's going to be a rise in homosexuality, then it's going to be from something natural, like overpopulation, but lol there really isn't any rise at all. Homosexuality has been around forever, but people have only been more open about it due to there being less people who depend and base their lives entirely on a book written thousands of years ago by a stoner.

Don't forget that nowadays, coming out as the homosexual you've always been won't necessarily result in getting killed by a mob, kicked out of town, fired from work, disowned by your family...

[Keyaki]

Then anyone who used birth control and protection must be evil.

According to Catholicism, ya.

[zaseo]

Masturbation, and many other sex acts are harmful. Is it really worth masturbating anyway? Isn't climaxing with a girl far more enjoyable. Well that is what I hear anyway. Masturbation can be harmful if someone does it too much. Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no. Casual sex is healthy, not the other crap people do that is consider sex, or masturbation.

If you go by the bible then you're not support to use birth control because you're so suppose to be fruitful, and bare kids.

[Keyaki]

Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no.

Heck Yes. Science shows its perfectly normal, the amount of times you do it depends on your age. The older you get the less you should it. Around adolescence is when you do it the most a day, around 2-3 times.

[Aru]

Masturbation, and many other sex acts are harmful. Is it really worth masturbating anyway? Isn't climaxing with a girl far more enjoyable. Well that is what I hear anyway. Masturbation can be harmful if someone does it too much. Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no. Casual sex is healthy, not the other crap people do that is consider sex, or masturbation.

If you go by the bible then you're not support to use birth control because you're so suppose to be fruitful, and bare kids.

Uh? LOL wow I seriously can't believe you believe such crap.
Masturbation has been proven to be a very healthy act.

Here, try some reading OUTSIDE of the bible:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/12461-masturbation/
This is just one of the many articles I found by googling "masturbation" and "healthy". You should try it.


That being said, I have absolutely nothing wrong with people who follow the teachings from any religious text, but I can't stand people who don't apply any common sense to it.
If there is a god, I'm sure all he wants you to do is have faith in him, live your life to the fullest, and not kill any other human being while doing so.

If he demands anything else, he's quite the jerk :/

[zaseo]

Google "over masturbation". It can have some bad side effects if someone gets addicted. The myths aren't true, but people that do it too much can screw up some parts of their lives.

[Aru]

Google "over masturbation". It can have some bad side effects if someone gets addicted. The myths aren't true, but people that do it too much can screw up some parts of their lives.

OHSHI-depression can affect your every day life, too!
Guess that should be punishable as well.

btw, not everyone who masturbates is a chronic masturbater.
The people who ARE usually have some underlying problem that causes them to fap so much.

[AuraTwilight]

Masturbation, and many other sex acts are harmful. Is it really worth masturbating anyway? Isn't climaxing with a girl far more enjoyable. Well that is what I hear anyway. Masturbation can be harmful if someone does it too much. Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no. Casual sex is healthy, not the other crap people do that is consider sex, or masturbation.

If you go by the bible then you're not support to use birth control because you're so suppose to be fruitful, and bare kids.

1) Masturbation is not harmful. It actually prevents prostate cancer. Incidentally, sucking dick can also help prevent breast cancer. No really. http://www.tatom.org/documents/CNN.com- ... yshows.htm

2) Climaxing with a girl, I assume you'll also include "guy" in here for the women and gays in the audience. Well, OBVIOUSLY. But it's not like everyone has a personal cumdumpster they can just summon with their Wank Materia. Even if you have a boyfriend or girlfriend, they might be mad at you, or not in the mood, or something.

3) Again, masturbation is not harmful. As I've already explained multiple times, there is nothing in your balls your body wants to keep. If it is coming out of your penis, YOUR BODY DOES NOT WANT IT ANYMORE. Semen is THERE is to spew out. However, masturbating like three times a day isn't MENTALLY healthy, but there's probably a deeper reason.

4) Why is casual sex healthy but not masturbation and other forms of sex? I want actual medical information, because otherwise you're talking out your ass. No matter what you do to make the climax happen, it's still the SAME climax.

5) You're right. The bible says to be fruitful. The bible also instructs to only have as many children as you can take care of. That means you either have to stop having so much goddamn sex (yea f*cking right) or use birth control.

[_Tri-edge_]

1) Masturbation is not harmful. It actually prevents prostate cancer. Incidentally, sucking dick can also help prevent breast cancer. No really. http://www.tatom.org/documents/CNN.com- ... yshows.html

Holy sh*t. I'm SAVING LIVES? :O

[zaseo]

I'm going to stick with my views on the whole sex thing. Would be people trying all of these sex acts if porn didn't exist?

Speaking from a political science point of view where is your mind on a government scale. To be a bit more clear are you a democrat, republican, conservative democrat etc? I have right wing views these days, but I don't like the the way the parties are running things at the moment. Maybe people can point at both for screwing up these days.

[S1lentOp]

I consider myself to be a moderate, though I'm sure there are a lot of people who would disagree that I am. On more than one occasion I've been considered a "far-left radical left-wing liberal progressive" because I think the government has a role in regulating businesses to protect consumers.

[AuraTwilight]

I'm going to stick with my views on the whole sex thing. Would be people trying all of these sex acts if porn didn't exist?

Obviously. Why the hell do you think there's porn of it? Because it already appeals to people's sexual interests. No one just decides, "Hey, no one gets off to X. Why not make a bunch of X porn and see if people magically start beating off to it?"

Speaking from a political science point of view where is your mind on a government scale. To be a bit more clear are you a democrat, republican, conservative democrat etc? I have right wing views these days, but I don't like the the way the parties are running things at the moment. Maybe people can point at both for screwing up these days.

I'm with SilentOp on this one. We generally have similar views on most things because we're both geniuses who know everything about everything.

[zaseo]

I like being more free without the government controlling things. Well some things they must control, and they should help out the low income families. I don't like what Obama is doing, but the Tea Party is even worse. I think America needs a society were we make a good % of our goods instead of having China do all the work. It is cheaper to buy, but people could use some jobs over here right now.

I'm not a fashion person, but it would be great if shoes, and clothes was made here. It would cost more to produce, but then the goods could be sold to US citizens, and to people across the world. If we did that then the debt wouldn't be so high. In case the economy ever crashes in my lifetime I will stock up on, and invest in gold, and sliver. It is a good idea to have some if you can.

[S1lentOp]

I'm not a fashion person, but it would be great if shoes, and clothes was made here. It would cost more to produce, but then the goods could be sold to US citizens, and to people across the world. If we did that then the debt wouldn't be so high.

And if it costs more to produce, it's going to cost more to consume. Sure, things can all be made in the US but you're going to have to import a lot of those resources and since the cost of production is going to go up, everything is going to become more expensive. That doesn't really help the people who don't have jobs and are already strapped for cash as it is. If producing things domestically made things cheaper to produce then the incentive would be there and not in exporting jobs overseas where labor and resources are cheaper.

In case the economy ever crashes in my lifetime I will stock up on, and invest in gold, and sliver. It is a good idea to have some if you can.

Haven't you ever wondered why companies are selling gold for currency that's supposed to be worthless? The companies shilling gold are scamming people. By underscoring the fluctuations in purchasing power of the US dollar, they try to give people the impression that the dollar is totally worthless or will be very shortly, giving the incentive to buy gold to the consumers. The problem with this is that they charge you a lot more than the gold is worth, which leaves you with less money than you started with. In the long term it's not much of an investment either. The gold isn't going to make you wealthy and you certainly can't use it at the grocery store. Buy your gold, but it's just going to leave you with a net loss and a pile of metal that will be worthless to you until you sell it for the same currency you used to buy it in the first place.

[shugo_lover]

Masturbation, and many other sex acts are harmful. Is it really worth masturbating anyway? Isn't climaxing with a girl far more enjoyable. Well that is what I hear anyway. Masturbation can be harmful if someone does it too much. Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no. Casual sex is healthy, not the other crap people do that is consider sex, or masturbation.

If you go by the bible then you're not support to use birth control because you're so suppose to be fruitful, and bare kids.

What about the poor people who can't get a girl?

[_Tri-edge_]

Masturbation, and many other sex acts are harmful. Is it really worth masturbating anyway? Isn't climaxing with a girl far more enjoyable. Well that is what I hear anyway. Masturbation can be harmful if someone does it too much. Would it really be ok if someone did it a few times a day on a regular basis? It is healthy to do so right? Heck no. Casual sex is healthy, not the other crap people do that is consider sex, or masturbation.

If you go by the bible then you're not support to use birth control because you're so suppose to be fruitful, and bare kids.

What about the poor people who can't get a girl?

SHUGO LOVER!!.....Too soon.

[Smitts]

Masturbation is normal and natural.
Other than the fact you bring it on, what is the difference between a "wet dream" and masturbation.
If you want to get all technical then you can say you still bring it on because it is YOUR brain producing the dream.

Yeah, i see nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't control your life and is unhealthy.
Like a disorder.