Terminal Disc translations!

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:16 am

I always wondered what happened in the fire myself, there's no list of the casualties?

EDIT: It says that PC of Magus is under lock and key, but he was one of the ones put into a coma? But one has to wonder what happened to Amagi, to make him lose his mind, what did he see?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:32 pm

But I agree, that it was either the Anti Existence, or a malfunction in the dummy Tarvos that created the problem. Maybe even a combination of both.

One has to wonder though, what happened to the Dummy? Was it sent into Amagai's brain? Is it floating in the system? Could there possibly be two Tarvos Avatars wandering around now?If that was the case would the new dummy wielder be as hot as Pai is? And if so would they fight each other in a vat of whipped cream?

My current theory is that the Anti Existence is the AIDA, so it would be the Dummy. And to answer your questions in order, according to my theories: Maybe destroyed or somewhere in the world spawning Tri-Edged players as the Big Bad, going in his brain is lam3, prolly floating in the system, maybe, but that'd be wierd, I don't think the Dummy was assigned a specific Phase, just Amagi being like "Good enough", possibly, and definately, definately yes.

>_> Ahem. And they have to fight naked.

Tri-Edge didn't exist in the system back then, did he?

He did as Kite's character itself.

Was it because it was a dummy that Amagi was spared from a coma? Not to mention, those other 7 "epitaph weilder's" would never wake up, now that any lead was instantaneously destroyed, right?

Pretty much.

BTW, did the other canditates die in the fire?

I doubt it.

It says that PC of Magus is under lock and key, but he was one of the ones put into a coma? But one has to wonder what happened to Amagi, to make him lose his mind, what did he see?

It was locked AFTER the test run when the players went comatose and the other PC's were lost and such. As for Amagi, my current theory is that just a part of his mind was pulled into the World instead of the whole thing, and thus insanity.

MirageAtoli · Post by **MirageAtoli** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:41 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:If Ovan was Bear, he wouldn't be dating a high schooler and he wouldn't need Naobi to tell him what the hell the Key of the Twilight was. Ovan is clearly a new person.

And yea, he stole Corbenic. I mean, it's spelled out for you.

I figured that. I mean that the two would get along very well and have alot in common character-wise.

They both are intelligent and more rational than those around them. They both are aware of the Key of the Twilight. They have a tall strong looking character.

But if he did steal it then that contradicts the theory of the Avatars flocking to the canidates after the Avatars were 'lost'.
Did he somehow go to Corbenik for an avatar instead of letting it come to him?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:04 pm

Well, it's not like ALL the Avatars chose their Candidates. Pai was given hers by her brother and Kuhn allegedly got his from CC Corp, and I would assume Yata recovered his himself, being an Administrator who was working on the project.

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:11 pm

But it would appear asi f Raiko is a chosen one able to handle the avatar of Tarvos, that's what Jun says at least.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:16 am

Well of course. I wasn't saying she wasn't. The claim I was making is that not all Epitaph Weilders had the Epitaph PC's come to them on their own volition. Most of them did, but atleast two, possibly three of them, were gained through human effort and means.

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:31 am

I'm pretty sure they don't "choose" anything, they simple go to the first available "candidate". This implies candidates are rare though, so I doubt "random Unreturner guy" is a candidate... He might be, since all of them except Atoli have been in the system for a while, but I really doubt it...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:22 pm

Well, if two Candidates register at the same time, the PC's gonna have to choose, so nyeh

Tyson03 · Post by **Tyson03** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:25 pm

BLEH I'll never get this series, lol.

This makes me way too impatient to play the game,

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:05 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, if two Candidates register at the same time, the PC's gonna have to choose, so nyeh

There's no such thing as absolute simultanaeity, so nyeh

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:00 pm

There's no such thing as a game that puts people into supernatural comas, but there you go. NYEHWGEHFHFEH.

Exotahu · Post by **Exotahu** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:11 am

If they didn't carry characters over from The Old World to R2, HOW did Kite's data get there to become Tri-Edge? What of Tri-Balmung and Tri-Orca? How did their data survive?

Also, I think that Amagi went insane because his attempt to surpass Harold ruined everything that Project G.U. worked for, severely damaged the game, caused CC Corp to catch on fire, and caused several people to go into comas.

If he thought he was some kind of super genius that couldn't be wrong, then his massive massive screwup may have driven him to insanity. Seems about right to me anyway.

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:10 am

Exotahu wrote:If they didn't carry characters over from The Old World to R2, HOW did Kite's data get there to become Tri-Edge? What of Tri-Balmung and Tri-Orca? How did their data survive?

thats the great mystery

who they are, how they got there, and what is their mission (the Tri-Mystery?)

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:08 am

Well, Kite's data is special, so when that remaining 20% of the World was used for The World R:2, there you go.

Tyson03 · Post by **Tyson03** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:34 pm

I read on the terminal disc that said Amagi tried to fuse himself with the Ultimate AI or something like that...maybe I'm wrong.

That's probably why he went insane more than anything, Exo.

Skeith Haseo · Post by **Skeith Haseo** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:08 pm

The Anaconda wrote:
Exotahu wrote:If they didn't carry characters over from The Old World to R2, HOW did Kite's data get there to become Tri-Edge? What of Tri-Balmung and Tri-Orca? How did their data survive?
thats the great mystery who they are, how they got there, and what is their mission (the Tri-Mystery?)

I believe that the Data of Kite, Balmung and Orca (since they are something special, Orca and Balmung have solved the The One Sin, Balmung and Kite... Kite saved The World).
And since Aura has created a second Kite aka Shugo, the data of the Azure Trio has to be in the BlackBox.
And since it is splitted, the AIDA could copied itself into the Three legendary Players, whose strength are in the BB too.
So Tri-Edge could use the DD because it Kite could do it too.

But I still got a question about the Avatares.
They can't use the "real" DD, they just extract Data from someone without putting it into coma.
Could it be that the Avatare aren't exactly like the original? Like if you program something but forgetting to program the decisive line?
Or wasn't Project G.U. able to decode the BlackBox completely/correctly?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:58 pm

Uh...Orca and Balmung aren't in the blackbox. Atleast not the original Orca and Balmung. I'm sure the evil ones are.

And what do you mean by "real" Data Drain? all Data Drain does is allow someone to edit data, and thus is like a swiss army knife. People don't go into comas because the Epitaph Weilders don't want to put people into comas. It's heavily implied that the Avatars have the ability to induce coma's. (otherwise how is it "dangerous" as Pai puts it?)

Skeith Haseo · Post by **Skeith Haseo** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:53 am

AuraTwilight wrote:Uh...Orca and Balmung aren't in the blackbox. Atleast not the original Orca and Balmung. I'm sure the evil ones are.

And what do you mean by "real" Data Drain? all Data Drain does is allow someone to edit data, and thus is like a swiss army knife. People don't go into comas because the Epitaph Weilders don't want to put people into comas. It's heavily implied that the Avatars have the ability to induce coma's. (otherwise how is it "dangerous" as Pai puts it?)

Of course the real Orca and Balmung aren't in the blackbox. I mean their data are in there. Like Aura "cloned" Kite and has become Shugo so Aura could be able to create a second PC with the look of Orca and Balmung.
And what happens if the AIDA had somehow access into the BB. So that could be the way, how Tri-Edge (and Orca GU & Balmung GU) was created. Copy and customize the legendary heros (customize into the new style so that Tri-Edge doesn't look exactly, I mean 100% like Kite).

To the data drain:
But why are still Kuhn and Pai able to play after Skeith has DDed them?
Ok, Haseo was able to control Skeith while he fought Tarvos. But when he fought Magus, Skeith has done his own thing, throwing Haseo outside of the battle like Yami Yugi does it with Yugi^^". And Skeith fought against Magus really brutally. So why should Skeith show mercy for Magus? Reminds me like EVA 01 when he goes berserk.
Maybe Project GU has decreased the original DD to ensure that if the Avatares go mad in the Test phase that they don't put themselves into coma.

The original DD extract and replaces the data of something, in G.U. they only extract the Data of an AIDA.
Ok, in Dusk, Shugo does the same thing... how was it? He extracted the virus of the other player but didn't overwrite it?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:09 am

Well, the most likely possibility is that Pai and Kuhn are protected by their own Epitaphs just like Kite was protected by his Bracelet.

As for Kuhn, it wasn't him fighting. His Propagation ability lets him make clones of his Avatar. That's what Skeith went apeshit on.

Post by **Kuukai** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:13 pm

Umm, not all of The World's data was destroyed in the Amagi incident. In fact, Jun mentions nothing about player data being lost. If so many players were logged in on the "final day", it seems like there are good odds that most player data was fine after the crash, including the Azures and the Epitaph-PCs...

There's no "protection". Magus and Tarvos are both Protect Broken. After that it's game over... The reason nothing bad happened to Pai is because Haseo used his DD on the AIDA inside her, not really on her... Magus was a copy, and that copy was completely destroyed since Skeith wanted to kill it.

Exotahu wrote:Also, I think that Amagi went insane because his attempt to surpass Harold ruined everything that Project G.U. worked for, severely damaged the game, caused CC Corp to catch on fire, and caused several people to go into comas.

If he thought he was some kind of super genius that couldn't be wrong, then his massive massive screwup may have driven him to insanity. Seems about right to me anyway.

I've never ruled out that possibility.