Over, time for new?

[AuraTwilight]

Kite himself never had to fulfill Aura's warning/prediction, but his PC data sure did.

It wasn't his PC Data, Aura made it entirely from scratch.

Endrance being Elk I can beleive because of the whole Mia reference. But Haseo being Sora is the most unbeleivable thing. There are no clues to it in any of the other media besides that so called Ultimate Guide that keep being mentioned. And thats not even going to be officially translated to English. So all we got are people who claim they've read it and say that Haseo is Sora.

If they really wanted us to beleive that then they would have put clues in the games, Anime, and Manga to make it more official. So until they do something like that then I won't beleive it.

They have the same name and age, and the names "Sora" and "Haseo" are both nicknames for the same Japanese poet. Not only that, but Skeith, acting and talking like Sora during a dream sequence, claims to be "The other part of Haseo's mind!"

[Dengar]

The simple fact that Haseo's player, who was Sora, also happens to be Skeith's epitaph user explains a lot. It pretty much means he was destined to become Skeith once more, because he had been Skeith before.

[Haseo-Skaith]

This just occured to me. The Twilight Dragon is mentioned in the games and stuff and its in the Epitaph of Twilight. What if the next game/story has to do with the Twilight Dragon in some way. Like someone awakens it or something and it ends up causing the next network crisis.

[AuraTwilight]

The Twilight Dragon is Aura, though.

[Azure crow]

The Twilight Dragon is Aura, though.

That's been disputed alot.
I've heard alot of talk about the twilight dragon also being Kite, Orca, Haseo, and Shino. It makes more sesne, though, dosn't the epitaph already mention Aura?

Endrance being Elk I can beleive because of the whole Mia reference. But Haseo being Sora is the most unbeleivable thing. There are no clues to it in any of the other media besides that so called Ultimate Guide that keep being mentioned. And thats not even going to be officially translated to English. So all we got are people who claim they've read it and say that Haseo is Sora.

They have the same name and age, and the names "Sora" and "Haseo" are both nicknames for the same Japanese poet. Not only that, but Skeith, acting and talking like Sora during a dream sequence, claims to be "The other part of Haseo's mind!"

There was also a scetch art picture released of Ryou's real life person, and it looks identical to Sora's Ryou. It's been proven over and over again that Sora and Haseo are the same person, so there's really nothing that can disprove it.

If they really wanted us to beleive that then they would have put clues in the games, Anime, and Manga to make it more official. So until they do something like that then I won't beleive it.

.Hack isn't that blunt, like the oh-so-cherished final fantasy series. Unlike FF, it dosn't make sure it's spoon-fed you every detail by the end. .Hack actually makes you think about things, and figure out exactly what's going on, and what's what.
For example, they never officially tell you that if Kite had data drained Corbenik he would have made the biggest mistake of his life, but we figured it out anyways.

If another .HAck game comes out, I don't want Haseo in it. I also don't want the arena to be so integral, nor the epitaphs. It'd be nice to(and I've said this before) see the epitaphs pull an Aura and decide to sit everythign out, or perhaps create PCs and start playing from scratch, without the powers they have. I could see Macha or Skeith becoming a party member if that happened(although not any of the others).
If that happened, however, then I would expect the epitaphs to operate under new names, even if they did comethign stupid like (Skeith=Kethis/Macha=Achma) or something like that, Mabye even if they used the KH sytsten abd added a letter(Skeith=Xeskith...mabye not an X...).
Mostly, I don't want it to just be a continuation of G.U.. Mabye the Azure Knights come back(but they better be fixed up, since they'd have the time and emotion).

I can't really say what's coming, honestly, but I hope for the best^^

If they do a R3 version of the world they might allow people to transfer their characters, but they might make you restart at level 1 again. Just to give everyone a fair chance. So I can see Haseo having to start over in his first form again.

If Haseo didn't use it, I'd be cool with that.

there wouldnt be an RE:3 unless something happened to RE:2, like dies, like RE:1

Not true. It cold just be some uber-massive upgrade. Mabye they even leave R:2 as a seperate game, like the Runescape/Runescape classic system.

GHEY.

Hey now, let's have none of that.

[AuraTwilight]

That's been disputed alot.
I've heard alot of talk about the twilight dragon also being Kite, Orca, Haseo, and Shino. It makes more sesne, though, dosn't the epitaph already mention Aura?

I've gone over it all, recently, and frankly, it can't be anyone but Aura, who doesn't have any other mention in the Epitaph.

Besides, the point is that the Twilight Dragon doesn't exist as a literal personage.

[Azure crow]

That's been disputed alot.
I've heard alot of talk about the twilight dragon also being Kite, Orca, Haseo, and Shino. It makes more sesne, though, dosn't the epitaph already mention Aura?

I've gone over it all, recently, and frankly, it can't be anyone but Aura, who doesn't have any other mention in the Epitaph.

Besides, the point is that the Twilight Dragon doesn't exist as a literal personage.

I'll accept that.

[Aselion]

I believe it was stated Final Fantasy will end at 30... That was stated about 4-5 years ago or something. (Thats just what I've seen)

Anyways, as for .hack... What does G.U. stand for? I've seen what it could be. But is there just one name for it?

My personal wish for .hack is a huge malfunction in R2... NO R3... PLEASE no R3! New characters, maybe old ones reappear, just as long as they don't join. The plot? Players get stuck in the world once again. This time, they can't log out. But with certain patches released in the future, a built in operations menu has been added. Allowing players to check E-mail and Forums through sub windows they can open up in towns. They soon realize data has been fragmented and begins merging with the real world. Areas in the game become destroyed, and in turn, systems in the real world shut down completely.

As the main character, your not some famous person or destined person. Instead your a normal layer who ends up forming a guild of your very own, with the ambition to gather the strongest players to take on whatever it is causing the problems, and find the lost fragments of data to restore them. Over time, characters will begin to lose sight of their goal, as they cannot sleep any longer or log off. Their mental state begins to diminish, and fear for their lives, leading a revolt in other character all over "The World". Though your characters will suffer through these periods from time to time, you must fight forward, and restore the world before it is destroyed. The fear of getting killed in the game will lead ones body to stop functioning as well, as their mind is broken.

I know... rip-off after rip-off probably. But thats just a basis. I'd like to see World character being transfered into real parts of the world, like both worlds were merging, so characters could actually visit parts of the city, and see that their body no longer exists in the real world.

[AuraTwilight]

I believe it was stated Final Fantasy will end at 30... That was stated about 4-5 years ago or something. (Thats just what I've seen)

I'd like to see it get that far and still be popular.

Anyways, as for .hack... What does G.U. stand for? I've seen what it could be. But is there just one name for it?

No, because it's used in different contexts by CC Corp, Piros, Jun, Yata, some AI's...

y personal wish for .hack is a huge malfunction in R2... NO R3... PLEASE no R3!

Yea, but who's gonna want to play what's essentially the same game again? I'd rather have R3 or go to an entirely different MMO.

The plot? Players get stuck in the world once again. This time, they can't log out. But with certain patches released in the future, a built in operations menu has been added. Allowing players to check E-mail and Forums through sub windows they can open up in towns. They soon realize data has been fragmented and begins merging with the real world. Areas in the game become destroyed, and in turn, systems in the real world shut down completely.

Laem.

As the main character, your not some famous person or destined person. Instead your a normal layer

Um, yea, duh.

Over time, characters will begin to lose sight of their goal, as they cannot sleep any longer or log off. Their mental state begins to diminish

That could be kickass.

The fear of getting killed in the game will lead ones body to stop functioning as well, as their mind is broken.

Doesn't work that way, Tsukasa's already proven that the comatose body can do fine no matter what happens to your in-game mind. However, if the BODY is hurt, it can damage the game-bound persona.

I'd like to see World character being transfered into real parts of the world, like both worlds were merging, so characters could actually visit parts of the city, and see that their body no longer exists in the real world.

HELL. NO.

That'd be like bringing the Power of Love cliche into Death Note, or having Haruhi Suzumiya figure out what's going on.

[The Key of Dawn]

Anyways, as for .hack... What does G.U. stand for? I've seen what it could be. But is there just one name for it?

Well the official meaning given by CC2 is "Grow Up" (which I think is very annoying), but there are other sub meanings

Graceless Unison
Geek's Utopia
Guilty Universe
Genesis of Ultima
Guardian Ubiquitos
Gateway to Utopia
Gathering of the Unwilling
Genetics of the Unknown
Genocide of the Unfaithful
Generation of Unity
Guide to an Uprising
Gate of Uroboros


most of these are shown in the Terminal Disk that came with the special edition of Rebirth

[Aselion]

Thanks for the info on G.U.

Yes I know my idea is lame in many points. I gave it as much thought as I do wiping my... anyways. I'm fine with the series ending their completely. I was just thinking how Digimon does the whole, worlds getting merged. Hell, even Megaman Battle Network did it. So yeah, bad idea. But I think it would be a nice addition to access E-mail in game... They do it on certain occasions, so why can't we manually? It would reduce the annoyance of logging in and out to see new e-mails spawning every log in.

[Haseo-Skaith]

I'd like to see World character being transfered into real parts of the world, like both worlds were merging, so characters could actually visit parts of the city, and see that their body no longer exists in the real world.

HELL. NO.

That'd be like bringing the Power of Love cliche into Death Note, or having Haruhi Suzumiya figure out what's going on.

Besides that was done on MegaMan NT Warrior with those virtual space generators or whatever they called them and the Crossfusion thing.

[Dead]

That's been disputed alot.
I've heard alot of talk about the twilight dragon also being Kite, Orca, Haseo, and Shino. It makes more sesne, though, dosn't the epitaph already mention Aura?

I've gone over it all, recently, and frankly, it can't be anyone but Aura, who doesn't have any other mention in the Epitaph.

Besides, the point is that the Twilight Dragon doesn't exist as a literal personage.

But Aura even tells Haseo "May the Grace of the Twilight Dragon be with you" or something like that, and i want to say thats the 3rd or fourth time ive heard that line in .hack
Why would she talk about herself in the third person?

Well the official meaning given by CC2 is "Grow Up" (which I think is very annoying)

It makes sense to me If you think about it. Its About Ryou Growing Up. Its really a Perfect Title.

[The Key of Dawn]

Well the official meaning given by CC2 is "Grow Up" (which I think is very annoying)

It makes sense to me If you think about it. Its About Ryou Growing Up. Its really a Perfect Title.

It is a perfect title that does make sence, but it doesn’t mean that you have to like it. An individual opinion on something shouldn't effect whether or not it works in the context.

[The Key of Dawn]

That's been disputed alot.
I've heard alot of talk about the twilight dragon also being Kite, Orca, Haseo, and Shino. It makes more sesne, though, dosn't the epitaph already mention Aura?

I've gone over it all, recently, and frankly, it can't be anyone but Aura, who doesn't have any other mention in the Epitaph.

Besides, the point is that the Twilight Dragon doesn't exist as a literal personage.

But Aura even tells Haseo "May the Grace of the Twilight Dragon be with you" or something like that, and i want to say thats the 3rd or fourth time ive heard that line in .hack
Why would she talk about herself in the third person?

I agree with Dead, it just seems odd that if Aura is the representation of the Twilight Dragon, that she would speak about herself in that context. Not that it isn’t true that she is, it just seems a bit too strange to me.


But that’s just my opinion

[Dengar]

Well, she is not the Twilight Dragon, she's just The World's equivalent.

Just like how Helba is not the Helba from the epitaph.

[The Key of Dawn]

Well, she is not the Twilight Dragon, she's just The World's equivalent.

Just like how Helba is not the Helba from the epitaph.

I get it. That makes much better sence. Now when i look back at that post, it does sound a bit unjustified. But these forums were made so everyone could express there opinions and ideas, and that was his.

[zaseo]

I don't get it part way . I thought that was the same Helba in the epitaph .

[The Key of Dawn]

No, Helba in The World is the equivalent of Helba in The Epitaph of Twilight, both in name and the role they play. In the section of the Epitaph that is shown in the beginning of Infection, it said Helba has built an army to fight the wave. Helba in The World has also recruited an army (aka the .hackers). In the same part of the Epitaph, it mentions that Helba and Aperion (I think that’s how you spell it) join together to try and stop the wave. Helba in The World joins up with Leos (the equivalent of Aperion) to attempt and stop the continuing corruption of The World and try to prevent the second network crisis.

You can see how the two are meant to be similar

[Haseo-Skaith]

Yet to return, the shadowed one.
Who quests for the Twilight Dragon
Rumbles the Dark Hearth,
And Helba, Queen of the Dark,
has finally raised her army.
Apeiron, King of Light beckons.
At the base of the rainbow they meet
Against the abominable Wave,
together they fight.
Alba's lake boils.
Light's great tree doth fall.
Power- now all to droplets turned
in the temple of Arche Koeln.
Returns to nothing,
this world of shadowless ones.
Never to return, the shadowless one,
Who quests for the Twilight Dragon.


"Welle"
Riding the Wave is Skeith, the Shadow of Death, to drown all that stands.
Mirage of Deceit, Innis, Betray all with the flawed image, and did aid the Wave.
And by the Power of Magus, a drop from the Wave doth reach the heavens, and creates a new Wave.
With the Wave, Fidchell, the power to tell the dark future, hope darkens, sadness and despair rule.
Gorre schemes when swallowed by the Cursed Wave.
Macha seduces with the sweet trap.
Wave reaches the Pinnacle, and escape none can. Tarvos still remains with more cruelty to punish and destroy.
And with the turbulent destruction after the Wave. Only a void remains. From deep within the void arrives Corbenik.


Fragment 0
Shunning the field broken by Wave.
The shadowed girl whispers,
"Surely, I will return."
Alas, the truth unbeknownst.
Awaiting her at journey's end;
Eternal mourning for her land.


Fragment 1
When the finger points to the
yonder moon,
The fool will not look at the fingertip.


Fragment 2
The whole cannot be changed.
We have already lost that chance.
Because the time left to us was short,
We were mistaken in our path.
But now do we realize,
We should change not the whole,
But the parts.


Fragment 3
Wave soars and shrouds the eyes.
No means to fight an omnipresent force,
The shadowless ones just grieve.
Why must it be a Wave?
Divide, if it would just...
Then retaliate, we may.


Fragment 4
Over the Keel Mountains,
Meets an ape with human speech.
The ape asks,
"What clings to you?
Bear it - you cannot.
Accept it - you cannot.
But hidden - it is from you.
Recite its name."

Just thought I'd post the Epitaph of Twilight for those that haven't seen it yet.