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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:08 pm
by ULFRIC
Yes but the Azure knights were named by a web poet
As part of a their event completion
oh...yea huh
Who named Tri-Edge the Azure flame?
Was it the system administrator?
Or is there another poet wandering in disguise?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:59 pm
by k-su
Question that's been plaguing me for all but five minutes now
if Kite(tri-edge) is

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supposed to be working for the system and chasing after ovan, then why does he attack those random people in that video YAtta shows Haseo, and data drains that one guy who couldnt get away?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:09 pm
by Magus
The same reason he fought Phyllo, most likely.  Ovan visited the area briefly and left. Tri-Edge warped to the area, didn't immediately recognize a different player, and attacked him thinking it was Ovan.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:22 pm
by AuraTwilight
Yes but the Azure knights were named by a web poet
As part of a their event completion
oh...yea huh
Who named Tri-Edge the Azure flame?
Was it the system administrator?
Or is there another poet wandering in disguise?
No, the Descendants of Fianna were named by a web poet for event completion. Tri-Edge received his title from player rumors, since he was literally covered in azure flame.
supposed to be working for the system and chasing after ovan, then why does he attack those random people in that video YAtta shows Haseo, and data drains that one guy who couldnt get away?
It seems that that player may have hacked his character. We don't know. It's possible, as Umbra theorizes, that Ovan was in the shadows and Tri-Edge was aiming for him, but Ovan kind've offed the guy as a shield and ran off.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:36 pm
by Kuukai
I still doubt Ovan was there, but it was just like Haseo's battle: Ovan doesn't need to be there, just around...

And the Knights might have just gotten their titles from CC when they were created, playing off of the legend...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:44 am
by bredan
why doesn't yata doesnt know about T-E and his buddies since he is an admin.....unless yata is a fake!!!! *Cough*yata=Bad prophet*cough*

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:48 am
by Umbra
There is the fact that, assuming Tri-Edge is part of the TSN System, Yata is an Admin in 2017 while the TSN System was created in 2010.

It may also not be in his power to know such things.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:42 am
by Kuukai
No, no, I agree it doesn't make any sense. It's in the news, he ought to know about it if CC's PR people do... He lied?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:36 am
by dark_kratos
okay you guys are talking about Cubia and the Twilight bracelet...well there is a chance that he could still be around as TE's bracelet is the Twilight bracelet as it is broken (meaning it only has 3 of the 4 when OG Kite's was normal) I dont know but thats what I think.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:58 pm
by AuraTwilight
No, no, I agree it doesn't make any sense. It's in the news, he ought to know about it if CC's PR people do... He lied?
It could be he's pretending not to know so he can manipulate Haseo's anger, and thus, get his Epitaph's cooperation.
okay you guys are talking about Cubia and the Twilight bracelet...well there is a chance that he could still be around as TE's bracelet is the Twilight bracelet as it is broken (meaning it only has 3 of the 4 when OG Kite's was normal) I dont know but thats what I think.
Yea, but Tri-Edge, and his Bracelet, are not controlled by a human, and the Bracelet, so regardless, there wouldn't be an Anti-Existence since he's a non-variable in the system.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:26 pm
by Kuukai
AuraTwilight wrote:Yea, but Tri-Edge, and his Bracelet, are not controlled by a human, and the Bracelet, so regardless, there wouldn't be an Anti-Existence since he's a non-variable in the system.
Not necessarily, he's still a foreign element introduced to the system and going around messing with stuff. If AIDA is the anti-existence for all 8 Epitaph Users though, it's also his probably, since he's very similar in both construction and power. I can only imagine he's somehow immune to AIDA infection though, since he's waaaaaaaay too stupid to have not been infected by now otherwise... Though that might explain why there are three: to watch each other's backs, like Haseo's role with half the Epitaph Users...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:08 pm
by AuraTwilight
Or it could be because they're AI's, so AIDA have no use for them anyway.

plus, Anti-Existences have only threatened to rise up when players have received significant power. And it also seems they have to be physically active players, since Tsukasa didn't prompt an Anti-Existence.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:55 pm
by ashlay
AuraTwilight wrote:Or it could be because they're AI's, so AIDA have no use for them anyway.

plus, Anti-Existences have only threatened to rise up when players have received significant power. And it also seems they have to be physically active players, since Tsukasa didn't prompt an Anti-Existence.
then again, tsukasa didn't have any real power all his own.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:19 pm
by Kuukai
That's a good point about Tri-Edge, the AIDA are only interested in humans.
AuraTwilight wrote:plus, Anti-Existences have only threatened to rise up when players have received significant power. And it also seems they have to be physically active players, since Tsukasa didn't prompt an Anti-Existence.
That's a really arbitrary degeneralization. The fact is, if you don't want to overly generalize, "you have to be Kite to get an anti-existence" is the best you can say... Judging from what Jun and Aura said, though, any unchecked power that's not part of the system that goes around affecting the system will cause an anti-existence (a "shadow" cast by the foreign power entering the system). Kite got his power from Aura, when Morganna was still the system of The World, hence it caused a "shadow". Shugo, Sora, and Tsukasa all got their powers from the system at the time. The reconstructed Avatars and their users, and also the TSN, are all foreign elements introduced by CC though, and therefore shadow-worthy...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:56 pm
by AuraTwilight
Well, the TSN has apparently been around since 2010, so there would've been some kints at an Anti-Existence for them at now. Currently all we're aware of is the Epitaph Weilders having an Anti-Existence.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:13 pm
by Kuukai
We have no idea when the AIDA problem started... I'm just saying it's possible the Knights are included...

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:09 pm
by AuraTwilight
The way Yata talks about the AIDA in Roots, they seem to be a fairly recent phenomena.

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:37 pm
by ULFRIC
i think, if i had to assume
the AIDA problem started with the launch of R:2
it jus went unnoticed until now
lyk how the Cubia/Morganna existed at the launch of The World
it jus went unnoticed
except for the folders
until Kite and the whole craziness events

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:04 pm
by Kuukai
AuraTwilight wrote:The way Yata talks about the AIDA in Roots, they seem to be a fairly recent phenomena.
As far as he knows. He's still (supposedly) struggling to understand them by Vol. 2, so I don't think his early impression is 100% reliable...

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:23 pm
by ULFRIC
I don't think anyones earliest impression of an AIDA is reliable. There not even supposed to exist so how could people get a grasp of them in the first encounters. Though if anyone were to know anything it would be Yata. I think he's hiding something. Downplaying what he knows.