.hack//G.U. SPECULATION THREAD AND THEORIES

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haseoskeith wrote:
Ignus wrote:maybe they are regulating TW while Aura is away.

Another question. Pai as we all know in the trailers goes berserk (possibly to an AIDA) and all these connected lines go everywhere on her. Now my question is this.

If something of that nature happened to Pai, then what about Haseo? He too got lines of those same natures and it looked like he was surpirsed or unnerved to get it...
i think those lines show when they summon theyr avatars (altho it seems a bit painful to them)
  actually i saw the vid how Haseo changed into skeith on accident but he saw Ovan and it help activated Skeith's power. So it looked more like a surge of energy went through him
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Those markings appear on any Epitaph-PC that is transforming into their Avatar. ¬_¬
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i think their like hidden wave marks
summoning waves
that just summon the avatar
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Post by AsukaSoryu »

I dunno why, and I know I am a moron, but I have a hunch that 'Evil Kite' is Ai....

yeah, me = moron
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Yes...yes you are. ¬_¬

For a start, 'Evil Kite' is known as 'Tri-Edge' or 'Azure Kite', or even 'Kite of the Azure Flame', nothing else.

Secondly, its pretty much established that Azure Kite is an AI, but he isn't an AIDA.
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you know, i dont think that necessarily Tri-Edge is a direct copy of Kite's data, just something built similar...

heres some things we know
*when the player created the character Kite he chose the male Twin Blade character design with a funky hat and a bag on the back, choosing a Green outfit
*Red was not an available color for the character choice for the character (extrapolated from comments in the game on his character color after the bracelet installation)
*after the events of the games, that character design was retired, along with several others, such as the female Heavy Blade character design used by BlackRose and Mimiru (extrapolated from comments in Legend of the Twilight)

the character designs were probably retired by CC Corp themselves, so as to not further complicate the situation (have people create new characters with the same designs to try to pretend to be the others). they couldnt touch the actual character files of Kite (and by extension of Kites protection the others), but they could influence some other factors such as the Character Creation system.

all they needed to do was create an AI using the retired character design. given that Kite didnt sign on often, Balmung became an Administrator, and Orca probably never signed in again, they could make duplicates of the three of them for the surveilance system (with the benefit that they could go around like any other party and keep an eye on things and never be suspected, at the time they were created there were probably a number of other characters still using those character designs) and pass them off as the real characters.

the bracelet? who knows. but its visual difference could indicate it was an attempt to duplicate the functions of the Bracelet and isnt the same Bracelet given to Kite by Aura. its possibly copied from fragments of the Phases during the RA Project.

the visual style difference was probably made when R:2 was launched, because they couldnt keep the exact same models or else people who remembered those character models would complain if they saw them (since they were told no R:1 characters could be moved to R:2).

unless it was destroyed in the fire, Kites data probably still exists, separate from the TSN
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The Bracelet's powers can't be duplicated by any ordinary means.

The way I see it, CC Corp took Kite, Balmung and Orca's PC data in order to create a trio of AI that would act as a protection system. The three legendary warriors seem the logical choice as they would be the strongest.

I could agree with Orca and Balmung's characters being duplicated, but Kite's data can't.
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The only part about Kite's data that can't be duplicated is the Bracelet, and after rebuilding eight entire Phases, a Bracelet should be simple.
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there would still be some flaws if it was copied right?
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there'd have to be. The very foundation of the bracelet would dictate an imperfect copy made by anyone other than Morganna. Unless it was made by something of a Morganna equivalent.
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Well, CC Corp seemed to do just fine. They recreated the Phases entirely, including THEIR Bracelets/Data Drain capabilities. I don't see why Kite's Bracelet would be so hard. There's no magical curse keeping the Bracelet from being copied or something. It's just a really sophisticated program. Clearly CC Corp has obtained a higher understanding of AI programming and such in the past seven years.
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apparently. but still nothing is perfect and TWR:2 clearly shows it. My guess is whats going to happen if...

1) the multiple use of epitaths has on its user (aka DD on Kite)
2) what effect does DD have on the epitaths
3) what happens to the player after they have been AIDAed, and use their epitath for wrongful purposes..
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well maybe it's a cubia created copy
since cubia copied Kite's data everytym they fought
then its possible that
to accomadate the new version of the world
Cubia had to create a new model for himself
and wat better body than that which beat you
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Except Cubia's DEAD and stuff. Dur.
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I didn't want to read all 129 pages so if someone already thought of this, then disregard this. *SPOILERS?*

  Aura copied Kite to create Shugo, so why would she not make another copy of Kite and name him Tri-Edge? Same with Orca and Balmung - they could have been copied as well. And the Sign, if you look at it closely, it looks like an A. A=Aura. And Ovan,... I think he is Aura, or controlled by Aura. And the AIDAs, I think they are like the R:2 version of a Data-Bug, possibly controlled be Morganna. The phases/avatars, not sure.
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Well, Aura left the World during R:1, so she has nothing to do with the events that are going on right now, while Morganna's been dead since the end of Quarantine.
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but Cubia didnt actually die right
just returned to its submerged state
waiting for another anomoly to resurrect it
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Post by .hack//BICTIOUS »

If you're thinking of the Liminality easter eggs, don't. Cubia is quite dead, as he was the shadow of the Twilight Bracelet and nothing more. When the Bracelet was shattered, Cubia went with it, and Kite's new Bracelet comes Cubia-free.
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we should put up disclaimers outlining certain points about .hack media being canon and noncanon. it certainly would clear up a lot of confusion.
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Even IF Cubia didn't die, and he somehow survived the transition from R:1 to R:2, becoming a clone of Kite and weilding the Bracelet would be making the coin one-sided. It doesn't work. Cubia can never possess Data Drain or any other qualities of Kite's, since he's their antithesis. Furthermore, the Cubia theory doesn't explain the other two Azure Knights, which were never a factor in the relationship between Cubia and Kite.
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