.hack//G.U. SPECULATION THREAD AND THEORIES

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Emma was merely inspiration for Harald. She's not that significant. She's not Aura, she's not Morganna, she's not Tri-Edge, she's NO ONE but Emma. And she's dead. She wrote the Epitaph and she died. That's it. That's all she'll ever do.
Said quote is from AuraTwilight on another thread that was heading in this direction. If you can't understand what this says.....then learn to read. o_o
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.Scythe wrote: 1:i dont think so. Naobi traps him. remember? So naobi is the first. Not ovan. AndTri-Edge did not attack Him.

2:ummm no. they are not. Did you see the vol 2 trailer? They knights attacked an AIDA. i dont think they would kill their own kind. an I have yet to see to much "intel" from t-e (like human interaction,..with words) he has no symtoms or anything of bein infected. (endrence did/does)
1. naobi hacked his way into there, so it wouldnt be noticeable.... by using the virus cores, it may have alerted tri-edge. naobi didnt use them

2. u missed my point... i didnt say they ARE i said that they COULD BE CALLED.... they dont exume black stuff, but they r A.I. right? so they can be called AIDA even though they arent.... u can call me a clown, even if im not, as long as that description suits me (dont even think on calling me that) im not going onto the physical description, but the name's description
AIDA stands for artificial intelligence data anomaly, and t-e is an AI, with data anomalies... an AI would know that DDing ppl is wrong, so he wouldnt do it..... since he has one or more anomalies, he does so
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Vagrant AI's are supposed to be Wandering Artificial Intelligences, but you don't call AIDA's Vagrant AI's and vice versas. There's more to it than the name's description. They're used for categorizing specific classes of AI's.

The Data Anomaly from AIDA specifically refers to their existence being an anomaly. They were created without purpose. You can't say that about Tri-Edge, Aura, or any other AI.
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That would be very neat in all, but i thought of something just now.....think of how much of a pain it would be if the enemy could ressurect there fallen comrads in battle....its like fighting the alucards all over again.
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i'm just thinking of when the Twilight Brigade faced off with Tan in episode 9. Haseo says 'i won't let you interfere with Ovan,' that line could be referenced to Skeith's role in the epitaph of twilight. riding the wave fast is skeith to thwart all those who oppose it.
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He does seem to follow Ovan as if something else were driving him. They all do... Ovan is very weird.
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weird in a cool way. i know though! he turns up at the most weird places like at the end of episode 3 hes just halfway through the door, he doesn't say anything all he does is smile and those sunglasses are always glaring as if hes possessed even though he is just himself. freaky, but he is one of my favorite characters.. if i grew my hair an inch or 2 longer i'd look exactly like ovan. i have his sunglasses. 8)
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Ovan gives off an aura to have people follow him. He does this by his appearance, the way he acts and what hes looking for.

But I havent played //Rebirth yet can someone tell me if Ovan is still looking for the key of twilight?
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We don't know, but he was told by Naobi really early on in the series that the Key of the Twilight does not exist. Whether he believes this is unknown.
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Well i think Ovan is playing with the idea that it does exist. This is what drives him. honestly i think thats what he tells other people. i think Ovan knows it exists. of course we don't know...
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I put this idea in the wrong place the first time but now im ready to say it again I think the Characters kite, orca, and balmung went offline in the world for some time when undeleted databugs had made there way to the characters. The data knew that those three characters had taken on challenges that were said to be impossible. So when they were offline for a certain time the virus had taken there characters for its own use. And made the perfect fighting team.


So wadya think?
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well, since no characters could be transfered after shutting down the world, it wouldn't explain their appearance....it would have to be left over data that was used by the system for a purpose that i don't know because i haven't played GU....
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Someone (Kiru) wrote this:
I put this in the Vol 2 forum so i wouldn't spoil it for people who have yet to play Vol 1.

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1.) Shino's Death Theory.

This theory deals with the death of shino and how it's not what it seemed to be.

In .hack//roots episode 13, It appears as if Tri-Edge had gone and killed Shino, however, i'm skeptical about this, why?

First, i'll show you somthing you've all seen anyways.



As Tri-Edge is entering the church, he appears to have Ovan's shadow. Why?

I think, that the one who killed Shino was not Tri-Edge, But ovan using his arm to disguise himself as ovan, since we don't know the full entent of the power of AIDA's.

Then, an alternative to this, in a much simpler form is Tri-Edge is after anybody afilited with Ovan, but then.. why wasn't Sakisaka (SP?) Or Tabby targeted, Tabby may be in the future, but as of now, she has not been.

However, in what i beleive is episode 17, After Ovan releases his arm on Tri-Edge, Tri-Edge dissapears in the same form Shino Did

Why would ovan do this? Simple, he knows Tri-Edge is after him and he needs Haseo to hate Tri-Edge, thus making him go after him, making it so Ovan doesn't have to kill him, since from the Vol 2 Trailer and //roots i've been given the impression that ovan cannot defeat tri-edge, simply ward him off.


2. Tri-Edge's goal.

What IS Tri-Edge doing? This is a question we have been asking ourselves since the first .hack//g.u. trailer at E3, while I don't have a complete theory on Tri-Edge, i think I know what he's doing.

Tri-Edge , Orca and Balmung are after Ovan , we've all come to this conclusion, but why? The AIDA in Ovan's arm, i beleive is the either the first AIDA to ever excist, or the most powerful, I mean.. why would he keep it sealed up instead of destroying it, when Ovan is currently more powerful than Haseo and Yet He's defeated an AIDA.

Since it obvious these three don't like AIDA's, they more than likely want to destroy the sorce.

At the end of the Vol 2 trailer, when Ovan begins to open his Arm, Tri-Edge looks calm at first, but as it gets closer to opening, he starts speed walking and is then quickly into a sprint.

Now, Remember at the end of Vol 1, Tri-Edge seemed.. Distracted in your fight battle with him, he Obviously knew that AIDA was there, and was nervous it would attack during his fight with Haseo.

Now, somthing I still don't get is why did Tri-Edge data drain that party member when Yata was showing him the video? Perhaps this character was a threat to the system.

Now, why would Tri-Edge fight back against Haseo? A few possible reasons.

1. Simple Retaliation.
2. He's affilited with Ovan
3. He's an epitaph wielder.

We know Tri-Edge doesn't kill random people, or else Phyllo would be in a coma already.

Tri-Edge has the same goal as Kite I think, to keep the world safe, however he is making sure this happens in a much different way, But in .hack//roots episode 13 Tri-Edge did repair that bit of data.

Plus, i can't seem to get it out of my mind that it looked like Ovan was the bad guy and Tri-Edge, Orca and Balmung were the good guys facing the big enemey at the end of that Trailer.

And, to add to somthing i mentioned before, When Shino is killed those 1's and 0's come out of her, however, when Tri-Edge faces Ovan, He begins to use Data drain, but is stoped when Ovan releases his arm seal, and then he dissapears into the Same 1's and 0's.
I think if there are any posibility that the one who DD/kill shino is Ovan instead of Tri-edge??? (remember: There is not a scene when Shino gets dd)
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Yea, but we know for a fact that Tri-Edge Data Drained Shino >.>
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I could assume that too. But the thing is.... Who saw T-E DDing Shino (I bet nobody, Haseo got late...). All we know is:

* T-E was present in the Cathedral
* There is a Ovan´s shadow
* T-E was looking for Ovan (apparently)
* Shino vanishes showing 1´s and 0´s (just like T-E on EP 17)
* We heard slashes instead of the classic DD sound when all those happened.
* We don´t know who called Shino to go to the Cathedral (many supposes the one who called her is Ovan)

So, there could be a possibility that both (T-E and Ovan) were present in that moment (and we didn´t see that), if so, in the end of GU Vol 2. trailer, there was a 3rd encounter between these two....
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i think tri-edge is afraid of the AIDA in ovan arm, because, thx to it, he data drained himself.
this could have divided him in 2, and one was watching the whole stuff happening, and gathering info on the infinity 8 attack patterns, and when the other half was defeated, they reunited, to bring t-e to his full power (just a theory)

another theory on the relatioship t-e -> ovan

i think that t-e has the KoT... even tho naobi was there in the KoT place, he hacked, so he wouldnt have alrted t-e. ovan used the cores, so that might have alerted t-e, to follow him and destroy him, why, i dont know
pekerman wrote: * Shino vanishes showing 1´s and 0´s (just like T-E on EP 17)
the shino vanishes like that, cuz she was DD'ed. and i think that t-e DD'ed himself too
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Ovan could've been the one to take out Shino, but compared to that one case, Tri-Edge has Data Drained dozens, if not hundreds of other players.
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I watched some roots episodes and found that Phyllo was attacked by T-E but was not DD. Not only that but it was all melee.

Could that same circumstance could have happened to Shino?

What if Ovan knocked Shino out to catalyze Skeith's growth in Haseo. But the only thing i can think of to come after that is to find the key of twilight faster in a some manner.

Btw the DD T-E does, is that the only kind of DD in GU? Other than Drain Heart.
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heres an idea i'm going to write it down before i forget. you think we're meant to believe Tri-edge data drained Shino. Tri-edge follows Ovan. We see Tri-edge walking towards the cathedral but then we Ovan's shadow in the shot where Shino turns around smiling. Ovan data drained Shino. Haseo runs in just in time to see her fall; yet she is still smiling. She definately saw Ovan; remember the bug that froze the area? suddenly shino was running to grima lowe to meet Ovan. now fast forward to the fight between Tri-edge and Ovan. Tri-edge is using data drain and Ovan just smiles and pulls the lock on his arm 'reflecting' the data drain right back at Tri-edge and that is why we see Tri-edge fading into 1's and 0's just like Shino did in Haseo's arms. When Shino and Haseo were together at the waterfall lost ground, she said she might disappear and later told Phyllo to take care of Haseo since she could disappear. They gave each other thier phone numbers. i think thats a very real yet distinct possibility.

Remember Jun was upset about Ovan's character data being the size of an entire area; his lock arm. Ovan must be aware of his power and is trying to assist Corbenik in finding the key of the twilight. it might not sound like it, but i would call that reason enough to be 'personal'. Ask yourself why Haseo must become stronger. ask yourself why Haseo is Ovan's future. What are Shino and Ovan trying to accomplish? its not just Ovan, Shino was not telling all herself.
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Do you think because of that Ovan's data may merge with Haseo? Just like how Endrance gave his power to Haseo so hed be stronger. Maybe thats why Ovan needs Haseo to be stronger so he can hanlde his power as well to continue on.
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