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Simple. Tri-edge can data drain because.... he is Amagi's dummy epitaph pc. I'll go as far to say Tri-edges defeat in rebirth causes the dummy epitaph to regroup and call out more destructive measures aka Orca, Balmung, aida mirror server? They're after Ovan cause... well... he's an epitaph user... his avatar is none other than Corbenik, the rebirth. all of this is just speculation though.

.Scythe wrote:3:when you ressurect Mia, you can see Kites bracelet,even though it should be broken

there was something you had to do before hand that give kite back his braclet i forgot what you do specificly but even though it breaks he gets it back

1: T-E's bracelet may bbe broken because of blackrose stricking it.

Tri-Edge's Bracelet isn't broken in Roots.

2:as it breaks, you can see the outline of Shugos bracelet(LotT)

Wrong

3:when you ressurect Mia, you can see Kites bracelet,even though it should be broken

You uh....get a new one.

Simple. Tri-edge can data drain because.... he is Amagi's dummy epitaph pc. I'll go as far to say Tri-edges defeat in rebirth causes the dummy epitaph to regroup and call out more destructive measures aka Orca, Balmung, aida mirror server? They're after Ovan cause... well... he's an epitaph user... his avatar is none other than Corbenik, the rebirth. all of this is just speculation though.

I agree with Tri-Edge being the Dummy Program, but Tri-Edge, the Azure Knights, AND the AIDA Mirror server? It can only be one person, dude. Also, Ovan has to have done something special to provoke Tri-Edge, since he's hunting him and no other Epitaph Weilder at all. He has ignored Haseo in order to pursuit Ovan.

Wow...That situation reminds me of something...Just can't remember what. You got Haseo chasing Tri-Edge, Tri-Edge chasing Ovan, and Ovan doing god knows what...In that other situation the person ended up stopping with the chasing of the middle man and going after the guy he was chasing though...Or something like that. But I don't wanna think like that now. I don't want Ovan to be a bad guy. Since if Ovan=BadGuy then we can say bye-bye to having him in our party. And I want him too much for that.

sorry, what i meant was Tri-edge being responsible for the aida, the aida are responsoble for the creation of the aida mirror server, and Balmung and Orca are creations of the dummy epitaph pc. but wait, no. that would mean there is something else entirely behind Tri-edge, Balmung, and Orca. So the azure knights were all created by this mysterious enemy. Ovan even says that the true enemy is beyond all imagination. what does that suggest to you? then that would mean tri-edge isn't the dummy epitaph pc, maybe we have yet to even encounter this dummy epitaph.

Also, Ovan has to have done something special to provoke Tri-Edge, since he's hunting him and no other Epitaph Weilder at all. He has ignored Haseo in order to pursuit Ovan.

Yeah definately. Ovan wants Haseo to become stronger and Shino says Haseo is Ovan's future. what does that tell you?

Tri-Edge could be the Dummy Program....but who made him self-aware?

Also, another idea. Harald is in the World R:2 in some form, we know that. Tri-Edge is described by Sabaoru to be "looking for the daughter who ran away from the father." So what if Harald is the true enemy, manipulating everything and everyone to drag Aura back? It'd make sense, since no one would see it coming (cept me, since I'm such a super badass) and Harald's mind is already fragmented, and probably got jumbled even more by the destruction of the old World, so he might not even be aware of what he's doing.

i certainly haven't heard that before. it sounds like that could be the case. ^_^ i don't see why not. there are still a number of factors to consider such as Ovan's arm, the epitaphs intentions, i have to ask, what is your take on this 'morganna factor'?

The Morganna Factor is simple. The Phases = Morganna. The Phases = The Avatars. The Avatars = The Infinity Eight. Thus, the Infinity Eight = Morganna.

Furthermore, Morganna is in charge of creating Aura, the Ultimate AI. Hence, bringing the Infinity Eight together will ressurect Morganna, and if one can control Morganna, they can control Aura, and thus the entire Internet. With how integrated the Internet is in the modern world thanks to Altimit OS, whoever controls the internet...

...controls the world.

and i thought the tranisitive prop of congruence would never show up again.....

however, only if they CAN, Amagi already tried to gain control of somthing, and we know how that ended up. So Morganna would have to be more "consious" and be able to manipulate more to b "controlable". But i'm sure tha tthe I-8 would need somthing else to "bring" them together. Like a glue. they can't just,, come together. there has to be a cataylst, but i have no idea what that would be. and could Haseo have a connection with Aura besides being and epitaph. (like since his avatar pwned Aura)

Its kind of ironic, that it appears we are fighting on opposite sides this time around. The enemy that goes beyond all imagination, you think it could be Aura? Who would imagine Aura being an enemy right? Since i'm imagining it, it probably isn't her. They way things are building up in vol 2 there will be utter chaos in the third vol.

and i thought the tranisitive prop of congruence would never show up again.....

i knew she would for a long time. i just didn't know how she would come into play. >_> Well we still don't... idk that scene at 1:21 with the sun i believe it has relevance to morganna. i remember tsukasa would talk to morganna and anytime she was upset and when she data drained Tsukasa a third time over the bed when he tried to apologize for bringing Subaru around. its a symbol of her omnipresense. The World. also it seems like something is happening at 1:21, they wouldn't just show us a pretty sky with sun, right? it seems something is happening with the sky, listen to it real closely, you'll hear something happening. Haseo was reaching out(assuming that hand belongs to him). We don't know know much of anything right now. if anything we are cutting the pie into different pieces, we're not even ready to sit down and eat.

could Haseo have a connection with Aura besides being and epitaph. (like since his avatar pwned Aura)

No, not really.

however, only if they CAN, Amagi already tried to gain control of somthing, and we know how that ended up.

The only reason he failed is because he didn't love the World. Everyone in the World (R:1, that is) is equally blessed. Morganna lost because she did not love others, and it was because of the self sacrifice of the .hackers, putting the ones they loved before themselves, that taught Aura to sacrifice herself, and thus be born. This was repeated in the GU Project. Amagi didn't love the World and only wanted personal satisfaction like Morganna, thus he was punished. I can only assume that since the Infinity Eight are all playing the World, that they must love it. At the very least, six out of eight love The World.

you think it could be Aura? Who would imagine Aura being an enemy right?

Nah. She's gone. Not to mention she has no motive to do any of this.

i got 2 things to say:

1. im going to point some things that are part of my theory
ovan is the first to enter that zone of the key of the twilight is supposed to be, and the only one to go that far
naobi says that the key of the twilight once took the shape of an illegal bracelet
the first time you see t-e moving is righ under that same zone of the key, and you never see him moving before that point
ovan only starts being hunted by t-e after being imprisioned in the key's fake chamber

so this is my theory: could it be that t-e currently has the key of the twilight? i mean, ovan invaded that space, and by doing so he created a link between him and t-e, some sort of target link..... and ovan wanted the key of the twilight, and since t-e has it, maybe he doesnt want anyone to want it, or hell just go inactive... like a threat to its existence. this could explain why t-e has ovan's shadow

2. i think the knights can be called AIDA's, since they are Artificial Intelligences with Data Anomalies, i guess... otherwise they wouldnt go around the place DDing people (for t-e)

1:i dont think so. Naobi traps him. remember? So naobi is the first. Not ovan. AndTri-Edge did not attack Him.

2:he does.....>_>

3:True. But i think he was created by the fire. so he wsa "triggered". and just because we never saw him moving doesnt mean he diddnt.

4:ummm. im not to sure about that...i remember before Ovan entered, he was hunted. but i might have just forgotton.

I dont see any other evidence to support that T-E had the KoT. i'M SURE IF HE DIDNT THINGS WOULD HAVE TURNED OUT way DIFFRENTLY. nOW, HE MIGHT know WHERE IT IS, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA.(sry for CAPS)
and remember, T-E was doing the chasing, Not ovan..
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2:ummm no. they are not. Did you see the vol 2 trailer? They knights attacked an AIDA. i dont think they would kill their own kind. an I have yet to see to much "intel" from t-e (like human interaction,..with words) he has no symtoms or anything of bein infected. (endrence did/does)

The Key of the Twilight doesn't exist in the World anymore, and even so, it's Aura.

hey!!t-e sign is an "A" so he has to have the relation. and i now stand by the theory that T-E is like the father serching for the daughter. (ep 17 uh..like mid way.) and i think ovan has somthing that has to do wih aura(like a piece or sumthing) thats why he chasing him so bad. but im not to sure aboout the last theory, but the first to im sure about.also, the "W" on his hat is for emma last name. i think it is.

i thought so too. But if so does that mean theres a strong connection between Emma and T-E?

there has to be. maybe. harold implanted some of his data into t-e..wait scratch that. maybe amagi put some of harolds data in T-E by accident. Harolds data wasent anywhere special, in fact it's considered junk data. Or simple enough Harold could just be floatin somewhere within T-E. but i was lookin for some one to be emma(like T-e would be the dad/ maybe harold) but i cant think of any. shino/atoli at best

The W on his hat doesn't have to stand for Weilant, nor does the A have to stand for Aura. Hell, they don't even have to be letters, since they do bare a resemblance to a couple Celtic runes, and Celtic Mythology = Epitaph's Inspiration.

well it HAS been stated by tatt green charecter in roots.(ep 17) and ussually it hints to somthing along those lines, she also seems to be a knowlagdgeable charecter, so, yes, i stand my my theory some what. But i was just puttin it out there. it sounded good to me

My god something just struck me. What if AIDA was somehow caused by that guy that went crazy with a dummy avatar. A phase not suposed to exist somehow created that anomoly of AI.