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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:08 pm
by Wan
I suppose since Aura is no where to be found (since shes omnipresent which be would near impossible to find) they want a new AI to be on par with her.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:23 pm
by Umbra
Actually, they decided that they needed a new AI after Aura's mysterious disappearence caused network damage at a global scale. It was then that they realised how important Aura was and how integral she was to the system.
There's nothing that says she definitely became omnipresent, she may not have disappeared of her own will.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:35 pm
by Wan
KaenKasharion wrote:Ignus wrote:but arent aidas and the phases the same?
Where have you been 6 years (or more) ago? The phases refer to the 8 beings in the 'Epitaph in Twilight'. I don't think AIDA's have much of a connection at all to the 8 Phases/The cursed wave.
They may or may not. The original phases were destroyed so these new ones could be AIDAs or copies/fragments of the original phases? And where I been 6 or more years ago? Well i wasnt here for one and .hack wasnt my engrossment in life.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:37 pm
by Umbra
The Avatars aren't AIDA, they're an entirely separate entity created by CC Corp in order to attempt to create the ultimate AI.
The fact that they were intentionally created by CC Corp means that they couldn't possibly be anomalies. They also don't exude the black substance synonymous with AIDA.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:53 pm
by Dragoon2044
There's nothing that says she definitely became omnipresent, she may not have disappeared of her own will.
I totally agree. There is something ill at work here. It goes beyond Aida and i think Tri-edge is connected. We just have to wait for the 2nd and 3rd games to know more.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:18 pm
by haseoskeith
hehe.... guess im a bit late, but ill spit it anyway:
what if, atoli is and it's not shino?
i mean, what if, when shino was DD, some of the data ( the data from the white version, but not all of it) was moving out there in the network? later, when trying to create a char, the data from shino would end up at that very same char, modifying it? the caharacters would look alike, but the players would be different
oh, and i doubt that Elk is Endrance..... if so, Endrance would be a lot more humble that she really is... in the trailer she tells someone something like "how pathetic. you have no power"... to me, that doesnt sound like Elk at all
sry for being late

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:37 pm
by Bryce_P
well, after losing Mia, a severe change in personality could have happened, but yeah, Elk's voice was all high-pitched, and i'm not sure, but wasn't his voice done by some girl? i know Kite's was. anyways, i haven't heard the english Endrance's voice, but from what i've heard in Japanese, its deeper, less whiney, and smoother...
but that could be attributed to puberty....
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:49 pm
by AuraTwilight
hehe.... guess im a bit late, but ill spit it anyway:
what if, atoli is and it's not shino?
i mean, what if, when shino was DD, some of the data ( the data from the white version, but not all of it) was moving out there in the network? later, when trying to create a char, the data from shino would end up at that very same char, modifying it? the caharacters would look alike, but the players would be different
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occams_razor
We don't need "Data moving out there in the network" To explain why Atoli looks like Shino. Atoli just liked the same kind of character design as Shino, just like Tsukasa and Elk, Mimiru and Blackrose, Bear and Orca...
oh, and i doubt that Elk is Endrance..... if so, Endrance would be a lot more humble that she really is... in the trailer she tells someone something like "how pathetic. you have no power"... to me, that doesnt sound like Elk at all
Although you make a good point, seven years, and the loss of like, your best, if not only friend, can do a lot to you.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:06 pm
by Twilight Gaiden
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oh, and i doubt that Elk is Endrance..... if so, Endrance would be a lot more humble that she really is... in the trailer she tells someone something like "how pathetic. you have no power"... to me, that doesnt sound like Elk at all
Although you make a good point, seven years, and the loss of like, your best, if not only friend, can do a lot to you.
But sometimes doesnt loss make you angry, like if your bullied sometimes you become a bully... i think im not making any sense.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:15 pm
by Bryce_P
you're making plenty of sense. it is possible that endrance is Elk. very possible. Mia was attracted to, if not only to his personality, in .hack, along with Macha's multiple sightings after you beat Quarantine....well, multiple sightings in a single dungeon, but you end up bringing Mia back...so the temptress Avatar would already be attached to the personality. wouldn't it be possible that if he played the world again, the avatar would be attracted to him? i might be reading into this too much...
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:47 pm
by AuraTwilight
Actually, you're probably right. If it is Elk, that'd be the reason right there.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:14 am
by Kuukai
Generally stuff that appears in magazines of in the news of this site will be considered non-spoiler... As this is the de facto "unified theory of G.U." thread, it would be very difficult to mark all the information that hasn't been officially released in English with spoiler tags... In fact, it's impossible to come up with just about any theory based on the information that
has been officially released, so that's why we do it this way...
Well, Haseo can definitely "control" Skeith to some extent... As long as he doesn't give in to his emotions, it's just a puppet--an extension of himself he controls with his will... You could argue it's still a puppet even when he gives in, but a darker side of his mind is controlling it...
Also, the relationship between "G.U." and "Project G.U." (the original, not Piroshi's) is uncertain... It doesn't seem like "revive Aura" is high on Yata's agenda... It's possible "G.U." is the result of some new plan by CC Corp, to just keep the game intact without getting greedy again... All I know is that Ovan's arm doesn't seem to be top priority anymore...
light_impulse wrote:hmmm... i dont know either how that skeith got out from kite's body, but one thing for sure skeith is back! and skeith is on haseo control
Kite isn't Megaman, Skeith was never in his body. Like Macha, and most other data in The World, Skeith's data wasn't "destroyed" per se, but just broken up and dispersed into the flow of data in The World. That's how it was recoverable.
Ignus wrote:They may or may not. The original phases were destroyed so these new ones could be AIDAs or copies/fragments of the original phases? And where I been 6 or more years ago? Well i wasnt here for one and .hack wasnt my engrossment in life.
It wasn't even out 6 years ago, don't worry ^^;;; Umm, it seems umlikely that's they are "fragments" or "copies", since the original phases
are the Avatars, but "shadows" is a distinct possibility...
They pretty much say that Aura was an all-powerful goddess of the internet... And there's no real evidence that she didn't leave of her own will...
AuraTwilight wrote:Actually, you're probably right. If it is Elk, that'd be the reason right there.
And I've actually kinda felt sorry for his avatar this who time, since he just uses it as a tool when it in fact is the friend he's heartbroken over... Well, the other obvious reason is his newly-discovered "charming" property (he has that huge base of fans like Saku for a reason). He also talks a lot more like Mia than like Elk, in my opinion. He's "grown up" to be more like the personality he loved so much...
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:12 am
by 1337chef
It would make sense. I know that a large amount of my personality is gleaned from my friends and past-friends.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:41 am
by AuraTwilight
You know what? Forget everything in the "What do you want in Vol 2" Thread. What I want is for Endrance to realize what his Avatar really is and reconcile himself, and maybe become friends with it again. "Mia...you've been with me all along. I'm so....I'm so sorry, Mia!" The Avatar wordlessly brings a hand down to stroke his head, and he can tell she forgives him. Then fades back into his PC.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:06 pm
by KaenKasharion
Kuukai wrote:Also, the relationship between "G.U." and "Project G.U." (the original, not Piroshi's) is uncertain... It doesn't seem like "revive Aura" is high on Yata's agenda... It's possible "G.U." is the result of some new plan by CC Corp, to just keep the game intact without getting greedy again... All I know is that Ovan's arm doesn't seem to be top priority anymore...
Growing up... Sooner or later the bird has to leave its nest, and the kid has to move out on his own. Maybe "The World"'s version of growing up is to function without interference of Aura. Maybe Project G.U. refers to a functioning game on its own, without and omnipresent force.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:35 pm
by Wan
but some sort of control is needed. Having something without some sort of order not controlled by people is what brings balance. Tho I do like your theory of Growing Up

Btw is it just me or does it seem strange that Altimit corp hasnt had any problems with the virus outbreak back before SIGN. It would be strange if one of AIDA or GU terms meant something related to Pluto's Kiss or another version of it about to re awaken again.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:10 pm
by 1337chef
I think that would tear the world in peices no larger than snowflakes. If Puto's Kiss came again, I doubt the world would hold up.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:32 pm
by Wan
wouldnt it be funny if the start of it were the incidents that happened in GU. Sort of like a forecoming of another disaster
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:21 pm
by AuraTwilight
It'd also be pretty stupid.
As for whoever mentioned the World leaving the nest thing, I agree, but I think Aura's the one growing up, since she left the World to "Become something more." My theory is that Aura left to continue evolving, and now the Throne of God is open so someone else can follow her footsteps.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:57 am
by Snake
Sorry for going off topic here, but I got kind of lost so um what is the Throne of God??
